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SynicBast

It also tookmus until after the 1973 series in England to get 5 day tests out of the MCC when playing them

Donsteppa

Ireland are collapsing faster than a Wallabies scrum.

nzzp

@Donsteppa said in Other Cricket:

Ireland are collapsing faster than a Wallabies scrum.

Jaysus, out for 38. Didn't see that coming. Well done the poms, but gutted for the Irish; that was a golden opportunity. Chase 180 and it's all glory, but they just fell apart

NTA

Bit of rain produced a wicket that favoured the ball. Always going to be tough as it went on and Root had a go at the surface after the game

8 days later

mariner4life

Modern day great

actually, fuck that, 439 @ 23 is all time. What a player, my favourite modern bowler.

MN5

@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:

Modern day great

actually, fuck that, 439 @ 23 is all time. What a player, my favourite modern bowler.

Yep that's Hadlee standard and remember Steyn played when anything under 30 is pretty outstanding.

Bovidae

@MN5 said in Other Cricket:

Shame, I loved watching this guy bowl. Always had that slightly unhinged look in his eyes and he was as good as anyone.

Proof you don't have to be 6'+ to be quick.

nzzp

@MN5 said in Other Cricket:

Shame, I loved watching this guy bowl. Always had that slightly unhinged look in his eyes and he was as good as anyone.

Madman. Absolute quality, to ge tthose figures. Crazy cool dude too

MN5

@nzzp said in Other Cricket:

@MN5 said in Other Cricket:

Shame, I loved watching this guy bowl. Always had that slightly unhinged look in his eyes and he was as good as anyone.

Madman. Absolute quality, to ge tthose figures. Crazy cool dude too

Interesting he's given up the longest form, great ODI stats but it's as a test bowler he really shines.

Billy Webb

@MN5 said in Other Cricket:

Interesting he's given up the longest form, great ODI stats but it's as a test bowler he really shines.

Agreed.
But his body just can't deal with the volume required in tests anymore.
Even an ODI feels a stretch. Suspect he will gravitate to T20's.

Interesting fact given that injuries are now haunting him - he was one of the least injured bowlers early on in his career. It has really only been the last 3-4 years that father time has come to claim its dues.

nzzp

Out of interest, I thought I'd do a comparison of Hadlee (left) and Steyn (right).

Shows just how much work Hadlee got through in his career - 7 matches less (86 vs 93), but bowled around 2,400 more deliveries than Steyn.

Bowling has a lot of similarities, but Hadlee was 3x the batsmen (literally).

Was a pleasure to watch Steyn, one of the few fast bowlers I went out of my way to watch. Quality for ages, and a dead set legend.

Hadlee (left) vs Steyn (right)

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nzzp

ah bollocks, I have to leave this here too. One of my all time favourites:

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MN5

@nzzp said in Other Cricket:

Out of interest, I thought I'd do a comparison of Hadlee (left) and Steyn (right).

Shows just how much work Hadlee got through in his career - 7 matches less (86 vs 93), but bowled around 2,400 more deliveries than Steyn.

Bowling has a lot of similarities, but Hadlee was 3x the batsmen (literally).

Was a pleasure to watch Steyn, one of the few fast bowlers I went out of my way to watch. Quality for ages, and a dead set legend.

Hadlee (left) vs Steyn (right)

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pains me to say it but Steyn may have been better. The argument can be made.....

In Hadlees favour is 36 michelles vs 26 which indicates he bowled more singular match changing spells. Batting is no comparison obviously but I still wouldn't call Sir RJ a true all rounder.

In Steyns favour is the era he played being much friendlier for batsman yet he still averaged only a smidgen under Paddles. Also a strike rate of 42 vs 50 speaks for itself too.

Higgins

In Sir RJs favour is that his averages are probably not benefitting with games against Zimbabwe and Bangledesh.

Billy Webb

@MN5 said in Other Cricket:

pains me to say it but Steyn may have been better. The argument can be made.....

Almost impossible to compare players from different eras and make a case for one being better than the other imo.
Hadlee was one of those once-in-a-lifetime kind of cricketers. Certainly one of my favourite picks for an alltime XI.

But Steyn, on song - particularly when he would angle it at leg stump and swing it to hit top of off-stump - was probably more enjoyable to watch - at least for me.

nzzp

@Higgins said in Other Cricket:

In Sir RJs favour is that his averages are probably not benefitting with games against Zimbabwe and Bangledesh.

and the bowling support.

Batsmen didn't have to score off him, just see him off - there was usually a competitor at the other end. Hadlee's bowling partners, on the other hand, weren't exactly scary (much though we loved them)

Billy Webb

Some international coaching news:

Pakistan have sacked - or rather declined to renew - the coaching contract of Mickey Arthur and all his staff.
Arthur is said to be on the shortlist as a candidate to replace Bayliss at England after the Ashes series...

And Otis Gibson and all his staff got the sack in SA.
No immediate replacement identified but apparantly Criscket SA will now be appointing more of a Football-type " Manager".

Fun and games.