NRL 2020

shark

Yeah that was pretty galling to read. $200m; what a joke, NRL.

They're not covering themselves in glory at the moment as an organisation and seem to have a highly inflated sense of their value to the public based on that shameless cash-grab, and then the NRL guy interviewed on the radio who can't even pronounce the word 'rugby' with a 'g' in it, and seems to think an Australia without "rubby loigue" isn't really Australia. Hey, Rocket Scientist, news flash: the NRL isn't your nations' entire national identity, and I'd reckon there'd be a few in WA, SA and Victoria who'd not really agree with that assertion.

All that aside I look forward to the return of the sport and the next feel-good story on a formerly shamed player who's turned his life around. And then sticks his dick in a schoolgirl / puppy / his own mouth.

Virgil

If the US of A doesn’t implode due to the caning of the NBA, MLB etc then I’m sure Straya will survive without the NRL.
Bonus is it would be the quietest year for
scandals like forever.

Smudge

@Virgil said in NRL 2020:

If the US of A doesn’t implode due to the caning of the NBA, MLB etc then I’m sure Straya will survive without the NRL.
Bonus is it would be the quietest year for
scandals like forever.

I suspect the NRL representation on Chatroulette will skyrocket.

Mick Gold Coast QLD

I read this piece from today's Australian to which one cannot link without a subscription. It offers a view that is worth reading, and which may astonish the easily astonished and angry young fellows who cannot abide dissent:

*"Many people are aware the National Rugby League’s “Simply the Best” promotional video this year was a revamp of a 30-year-old campaign featuring Tina Turner, but did you know there was a revamp of the revamp last Sunday? This time it was Australian Rugby League Commission chairman Peter V’landys taking the stage with the microphone. In case you missed it:

[then follows alternative lyrics to Simply the Best, omitted for space reasons]

That is a version which aptly sums up the NRL’s attitude. A little hyperbole admittedly, but V’landys and NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg deserve it. Their extraordinary press conference was not an impassioned plea for financial assistance, but a boorish and petulant demand. “An Australia without rugby league is not Australia,” declared V’landys. “The government has to assist us in this crisis because it is not of our own doing.”

Apparently the NRL is unique in that respect. “The last resort for us is to go to the players and ask them for a pay cut because, like the rest of us, they’ve got mortgages and made commitments on the money they believe they’re going to get,” he said. How is this different from any every other Australian, many of whom face the prospect of financial ruin?

If that is indicative of the administration’s mettle, it may be time for the government and the Returned Services League to reconsider their approval for the code to play under the annual “Anzac Test” banner. The only precedent approaching this degree of pitifulness was in 2001 when the game’s administrators, to the dismay of supporters, initially cancelled the Kangaroo Tour to Britain, citing fears about terrorism in the wake of 9/11. It was rapidly rescinded when someone pointed out the attacks had stopped the brave men of league from travelling overseas, but not The Wiggles.

If rugby league’s governing body does fold, it will be terrible for those whose livelihood depends on the game. For many Australians, it would be a cultural void. No more televised Friday night games. No more spending September on the couch watching elimination matches. Above all, no longer will we enjoy the benefit of what the NRL has become famous for in recent years, and that is giving moral guidance to us plebs about the great issues of our time.

There is also the role NRL plays in education. Take for example its promotional video of this year. I found it most informative, for I learned that indigenous people play league. I never noticed this in all my years of watching the sport, even when seeing the greats like Larry Corowa, Steve Ella and Arthur Beetson, just to name a few.

We also know now that Souths player Latrell Mitchell shares this heritage, and that he has a habit of standing on the shore in the early hours with the Aboriginal flag draped around his shoulders. I get the producers were aiming for the mystical look, but Mitchell’s expression as he looks out to sea is more a forlorn one, almost as if he were contemplating the game’s future. Rather apt you could say.

The lesbians in this promo, I am pleased to say, looked a lot happier. Thanks to the NRL we also discovered this demographic are in the habit of kissing, which none of us non-woke folk knew before. But league’s administering body seized on what was a spontaneous act of affection to let us know that some of the officials’ friends are minorities. That not-so-subtle usurpation was reminiscent of that episode in the cartoon series The Simpsons where the family are on a Hollywood tour and Marge points out the residence of Ellen DeGeneres and her then partner Anne Heche, both of whom are holding hands on the front porch.

“We’re lesbians!”, shout the couple excitedly as they wave.

The NRL’s video was “a box-ticking exercise, ” wrote Paul Kent of the Daily Telegraph earlier this month. “Bland, politically correct gestures from an NRL losing touch with the great majority of the game’s fans as it continues its blind path towards irrelevance,” he said. “It is a dangerous path they follow, ignoring the great majority of its fans.”

Kent is correct. During the same-sex marriage postal plebiscite, the 2017 grand final featured American artist Macklemore and his song “Same Love”. This concluded with him declaring “equality for all” whilst rainbow fireworks exploded in the background. It politicised the game and to many it was a case of league officials condescending to a captive audience.

Given the NRL’s obsession with gratuitous moral instruction, you wonder what pre-grand final “entertainment” would be if not for coronavirus’s reality punch. Perhaps this would take the form of former Australian Human Rights Commission president Gillian Triggs, Gosford activist priest Father Rod Bower, and human rights barrister Julian Burnside lecturing the crowd on the evils of the government’s asylum-seeker policies. Or maybe professor Tim Flannery doing an interpretive dance on the importance of addressing climate change.

It is not just the game’s administrators who have become arrogant. In the 2019 State of Origin series many players, both indigenous and non-indigenous, boycotted the national anthem. While not taking part, Maroons captain Daly Cherry-Evans and NSW coach Brad Fittler both said they respected the boycott. In the lead-up to this year’s indigenous All Stars game, V’landys announced the anthem would not be played, citing players’ concerns about it supposedly not representing them. Presumably on principle none of these players will accept money from the taxpayers who sing with pride this same anthem.

If the NRL is to receive any public moneys – and that is a big if – then its officials, beginning with V’landys, need a lesson in humility. Whether it is deserving of support is highly contentious, particularly given club officials have for years warned the body that it needed to put aside $100m in emergency funds, something it failed to do. Commentator, former coach, club secretary and player Phil Gould castigated the organisation this week, tweeting that its “Overpopulated Head Office has squandered 100’s of millions of dollars.”

NRL in a very difficult position, so last thing we need is people adding to their problems. We all need to stick. However, this situation highlights just how wasteful & poorly run NRL has been. Overpopulated Head Office has squandered 100’s of millions of dollars.

Time for change
— Phil Gould (@PhilGould15) March 15, 2020

V’landys’ outspokenness and brashness may return to bite him on the proverbial. “The people who don’t like me … are the hangers-on and the parasites, and I don’t have any time for them either,” the then chief executive of Racing Australia told Sydney Morning Herald in 2014. “You help the good people”. He better hope for the organisation’s sake the government does not heed this philosophy.

Still on humility, all the big sporting codes must recognise the severity of the coronavirus’s economic impact means the death of corporate virtue signalling. It is a self-indulgence none can no longer afford. Just last year Australian Football League chief executive Gillon McLachlan postulated that “people look to the AFL, as their governing body, broadly for their position on social issues” such as same-sex marriage. Only this week an exhausted McLachlan, commenting on coronavirus, said he was trying to ensure “we have an industry at the end of this”. Nothing like an existential crisis to remind you of your core business.

The survival of rugby league is assured. The game requires only two fullbacks, four wingers, four centres, two five-eighths, two halfbacks, two locks, four second-rowers, four props, two hookers, a referee, a ball, and a half-decent football field. It is a public institution. Highly paid administrators and players are not.

As for whether the NRL survives, it could well be a case of prime minister Scott Morrison singing tough love. To quote another Turner classic which also featured in the ARL’s promotion long ago, “What you get is what you see”.

THE MOCKER
Australian March 19, 2020*

JK

Sounds like the warriors have committed to stay on in Aus

shark

@Mick-Gold-Coast-QLD A very well put together piece and this truly puts the sport (among others, for sure) in perspective. But few have as inflated a view of themslves as the NRL.

mariner4life

Cowboys beat the Bulldogs in front of an empty ANZ last night. Jason Taumalolo is a train.

Professional sports without crowds is a bit shit. Lets hope that governing bodies and what ever broadcasters are left after this realise it, and make changes.

canefan

@mariner4life said in NRL 2020:

Cowboys beat the Bulldogs in front of an empty ANZ last night. Jason Taumalolo is a train.

Professional sports without crowds is a bit shit. Lets hope that governing bodies and what ever broadcasters are left after this realise it, and make changes.

The weirdest one was the WWE performing in an empty stadium. Crowd interaction is a huge part of the show

Bovidae

It will be interesting to how the number of TV watchers compares to Rd 1 now there are empty stadiums.

mariner4life

@Bovidae said in NRL 2020:

It will be interesting to how the number of TV watchers compares to Rd 1 now there are empty stadiums.

you think people won't watch? They have nothing else to do

Bovidae

@mariner4life said in NRL 2020:

@Bovidae said in NRL 2020:

It will be interesting to how the number of TV watchers compares to Rd 1 now there are empty stadiums.

you think people won't watch? They have nothing else to do

The NRL tragics will watch.

I would assume the people who would normally be going to the game will now watch on TV so the viewership could go up.

antipodean

@Bovidae said in NRL 2020:

@mariner4life said in NRL 2020:

@Bovidae said in NRL 2020:

It will be interesting to how the number of TV watchers compares to Rd 1 now there are empty stadiums.

you think people won't watch? They have nothing else to do

The NRL tragics will watch.

I would assume the people who would normally be going to the game will now watch on TV so the viewership could go up.

The future of sports. Cheaper to build stadiums if you don't need any seating...

Nepia

@Bovidae said in NRL 2020:

@mariner4life said in NRL 2020:

@Bovidae said in NRL 2020:

It will be interesting to how the number of TV watchers compares to Rd 1 now there are empty stadiums.

you think people won't watch? They have nothing else to do

The NRL tragics will watch.

I would assume the people who would normally be going to the game will now watch on TV so the viewership could go up.

I'll watch games other than the Warriors, I normally only watch the Warriors.

Nepia

@antipodean said in NRL 2020:

@Bovidae said in NRL 2020:

@mariner4life said in NRL 2020:

@Bovidae said in NRL 2020:

It will be interesting to how the number of TV watchers compares to Rd 1 now there are empty stadiums.

you think people won't watch? They have nothing else to do

The NRL tragics will watch.

I would assume the people who would normally be going to the game will now watch on TV so the viewership could go up.

The future of sports. Cheaper to build stadiums if you don't need any seating...

Just use EA sports games crowds and cheering.

raznomore

@Bovidae said in NRL 2020:

It will be interesting to how the number of TV watchers compares to Rd 1 now there are empty stadiums.

Im not sure but I think there will be a higher TV audience. Not sure why though.....

@shark typical response from a rugby boofhead . You watch how many rugby clubs won’t survive this event. I know of 3 in chch that were in trouble before this.
There’s boof heads in every sport. Yes there’s been plenty of incidents of the past few years. The Aussie media feed off it. NZRFU are just lucking the nz media are paid to keep quiet about all there incidents. Every knows about Dan Carter’s off field activities.
I’m from a league family but also love rugby and most other sports.

mariner4life

Broncos v Souths was actually really good last night

shark

@chchfanatic said in NRL 2020:

@shark typical response from a rugby boofhead . You watch how many rugby clubs won’t survive this event. I know of 3 in chch that were in trouble before this.
There’s boof heads in every sport. Yes there’s been plenty of incidents of the past few years. The Aussie media feed off it. NZRFU are just lucking the nz media are paid to keep quiet about all there incidents. Every knows about Dan Carter’s off field activities.
I’m from a league family but also love rugby and most other sports.

Survival of clubs is a wildly different topic to player behaviour which has nothing to do with COVID-19.

It's truly stunning that a well informed sports fan can claim the instances of immoral player behaviour are even between codes. Sure, there's the odd AB who's gotten away with dropping a few pingers and/or doing a bit of rooting around (along with plenty of other young blokes) but I don't recall any rugby players drinking their own piss or treating a puppy as a sex object.

@shark you obviously haven’t been to a rugby court session. I’ve witness guys pelican each other and drink a pint of piss to get out of court sessions.
It happens in all of society. Aussie media just sensationalise a lot more than anywhere else. Don’t get me wrong Aussie league have their fair share of idiots. But to say they are all boof heads is wrong.
Your allowed to just not like league. I’m not really a fan of soccer.
As for clubs going under , if the warriors don’t play the nrl only has 7 games every week. The contract with the telcos states they must play 8 games every week. So no one gets paid.

Nepia

@mariner4life said in NRL 2020:

Broncos v Souths was actually really good last night

Crazy that Brisbane have Fifita and Haas. We have Lachlan Burr.

shark

@chchfanatic I've been involved in many a court session, and end of season trips are as bad if not worse. Plenty of disgusting behaviours which at the time seemed funny, mostly! But you can't compare Div 5 club rugby to highly paid professional athletes. For some ridiculous reason NRL players seem prone to doing stupid / lewd / immoral shit either publicly or on social media. You can't tell me the union guys are doing all the same shit and just aren't as unlucky or miraculously have it brushed under the carpet.

shark

Actually, we could have a thread on gross shit we've seen (done!?) in a court session or on an end of season trip.

Paekakboyz

@shark that could be the sordid straw/thread that breaks earths back lol. Most of my stuff is about others or what i've been told happened cause fk'd if I remembered 😂

Also, thank all gods including the flying spaghetti monster, that smart phones weren't around. The things we've seen aye lads!! 😎😳🤪

Siam

@shark said in NRL 2020:

Actually, we could have a thread on gross shit we've seen (done!?) in a court session or on an end of season trip.

We could call it the hypocrites thread.

Donsteppa

So... so far the Warriors have played 130 minutes of rugby league this NRL season for precisely zero points on the scoreboard.

Is there a more uninspiring coaching team doing the rounds anywhere, or are Kearney and co dreary beyond peer?

Crazy Horse

100 years ago was the last time a premiership team was held scoreless in their first two games. 11 minutes to go...

I have watched the last 20 minutes. They are absolutely dire.

ACT Crusader

We might be awarded a tinny one here

canefan

@Crazy-Horse said in NRL 2020:

100 years ago was the last time a premiership team was held scoreless in their first two games. 11 minutes to go...

I have watched the last 20 minutes. They are absolutely dire.

So happy the new owners are a big step up from the old owners.....

ACT Crusader

No Warriors player has scored a try in 160 minutes of rugby league.

Donsteppa

As clear cut a penalty try as there ever is

@Donsteppa more so the players are just shit!!! I would only pick ah mai, Harris, green, fusitua, mamalo and rts as first class players... nz league development is crap and has been for a long time

canefan

@98blueandgold said in NRL 2020:

@Donsteppa more so the players are just shit!!! I would only pick ah mai, Harris, green, fusitua, mamalo and rts as first class players... nz league development is crap and has been for a long time

In the old days the Warriors had access to most of the emerging talent in NZ. These days they compete with all the teams in the league

ARHS

I had ticket for the double header at Eden Park to watch the Raiders who I have supported avidly for 30 years. So glad to see this game today and well done warriors for your efforts and sacrifices. I just love live sport to take my mind off other things.

@canefan being involved in secondary sport and league I would say the level has dropped dramatically in the last 10 years. U look at a nz u18/17/15 team and only a handful have made nrl. Can’t rely on local talent. Harsh but true

@shark they had a outrageous rule back in the day when I played a year at Shirley. If you could suck yourself off you didn’t have to do court session. Obviously not thinking anyone could do it. Up steps a guy Barry Baxter. Boom. Not something I want to see again.

Nepia

@98blueandgold said in NRL 2020:

@canefan being involved in secondary sport and league I would say the level has dropped dramatically in the last 10 years. U look at a nz u18/17/15 team and only a handful have made nrl. Can’t rely on local talent. Harsh but true

Most of that team weren't really local talent. Even a bunch of the NZers in the team came through pathways other than the Warriors. I think only Fus, Ken, Harris-Tevita and Papali'i are actual "locals".

It's just a poorly assembled squad.

Donsteppa

Keary with an in-goal clanger thanks to never say die defence from Manly

@Nepia more when you go back to hay days of toopi. Jones, lauatitii etc the NZ guys weren’t shit they were amazing plus adding in your campions, lucks, marsh, price etc. now look, Pappalii was meant to be next big NZ thing but he is terrible modern day back rower. Only Harris, Ah Mau, RTS, moemalo and fusitua are NZ players who would make 17 every week of most teams.

shark

@Siam said in NRL 2020:

@shark said in NRL 2020:

Actually, we could have a thread on gross shit we've seen (done!?) in a court session or on an end of season trip.

We could call it the hypocrites thread.

You really don't get the distinction at all, do you? That's rhetorical by the way. In case you don't get that, either.

shark

@chchfanatic Yuck.