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Cyclops

@barbarian said in NFL Season 2020/21:

@Cyclops It's fascinating. Given the importance of QB in the league today, and how good Watson is, teams should be moving heaven and earth to get him. When was the last time a genuine top 5 QB was on the block like this?

Even if you were the Jags, surely you'd think long and hard about putting up the #1 pick. I know they've got Meyer as coach, and are going to take TL, but Watson is a proven superstar.

Yep the they must be thinking about it. Does Watson waive his no trade clause for Jacksonville though? Home market size is less relevant these days, so again being state income tax free will be a big draw.

Is reality if Watson is available for trade there will be about 26 teams that inquire. Even if its just a 'oh you want that much, well good luck' call.

nzzp

@Cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21:

Even if its just a 'oh you want that much, well good luck' call.

more like 'oh you want that much, let me go and talk to my GM' call.

QB economics are munted. You have to spend whatever it takes to get even a chance of a good'un

barbarian

Listened to a podcast today that said Watson might not want to go to a 'rebuilding' team like the Jets or Jags. Which is fair enough, but if he wants to win a ring I can't see there being many viable options for the Texans.

mariner4life

@barbarian who are the "if we had a better QB we are challenger" teams?

Titans?

Tampa?

canefan

@mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21:

@barbarian who are the "if we had a better QB we are challenger" teams?

Titans?

Tampa?

The Rams. 49ers. Basically anyone who has a great defence and a less than best QB

barbarian

Well you could probably add the Steelers, the Saints, the Football Team, the Bears, the Colts. The Giants at a stretch.

mariner4life

@barbarian said in NFL Season 2020/21:

Well you could probably add the Steelers, the Saints, the Football Team, the Bears, the Colts. The Giants at a stretch.

ooohh Steelers. that's good.

canefan

@barbarian said in NFL Season 2020/21:

Well you could probably add the Steelers, the Saints, the Football Team, the Bears, the Colts. The Giants at a stretch.

So basically everyone except

Seattle (Wilson)
GB (Rodgers)
Buffalo (Allen)
Arizona (Murray)
Cleveland (Mayfield)
Carr (LV)
Cinci (Burrow)
LA Chargers (Herbert)
Tenessee (Tannehill)
KC (Mahomes)

All the others have varying levels of need, but if he was available they should all try to make a deal

nzzp

@canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21:

All the others have varying levels of need, but if he was available they should all try to make a deal

ebay!

Cyclops

@barbarian said in NFL Season 2020/21:

Listened to a podcast today that said Watson might not want to go to a 'rebuilding' team like the Jets or Jags. Which is fair enough, but if he wants to win a ring I can't see there being many viable options for the Texans.

Yep. I think the three most likely scenarios are the Texans sorting their shit out and Watson staining, him going to the Dolphins (10-5 record, lots of draft capital), him going to the jets (lots of draft capital, coach he likes). I don't think any other team could match the price those two can offer except for the jags who I think will go for TL.

I still think Watson staying is the most likely by far.

KiwiMurph

Reports are coming out confirming that Lions have agreed to trade Matt Stafford.

In my opinion this is who 49ers should be targeting but a lot of teams are going to be interested - he's the perfect plug and play QB for a playoff contender missing that high level QB.

canefan

@KiwiMurph said in NFL Season 2020/21:

Reports are coming out confirming that Lions have agreed to trade Matt Stafford.

In my opinion this is who 49ers should be targeting but a lot of teams are going to be interested - he's the perfect plug and play QB for a playoff contender missing that high level QB.

He would be intrigueing for the 9ers, assuming there is no way DW is in play. He has held that Lions team on his shoulders for years, and would be a considerable upgrade on the current version of Jimmy G, assuming he has enough juice left

SynicBast

30 fucking years of wasted generational talent by lions management. Barry, then Megatron and now Stafford is going. Hell the first two retired rather than keep playing for the Lions. I'm not a Lions fan by any means, but the waste that the Fords have allowed is criminal. Emmitt wouldn't have come close to Barry if Barry had played two more seasons, and Megatron was out-mossing Moss, even after 8 years

Bovidae

A very good 1st half from Brady and the Bucs with a killer blow at the end.

Plenty of work to do for the Packers.

KiwiMurph

@Bovidae Green Bay defense getting destroyed on 3rd/4th down.

Bovidae

@KiwiMurph You give Brady protection and time and he will find a receiver.

A terrible missed call for holding leading to the INT as well.

KiwiMurph

Reminds me a lot of rugby and the knack of scoring just before and just after halftime.

Bovidae

The GB home crowd has been completely taken out of the game.

KiwiMurph

Pack are back in it. Could be a shootout 4th Q coming up.

barbarian

But now GB come storming back with two TDs in the 3rd. Epic 4th quarter coming up here.

Bovidae

Defence is dominating in the 4th Q.

Bovidae

The Bucs get to play at home.

Packers should have went for a TD on that 4th down.

KiwiMurph

@Bovidae That's one of the worst calls you will ever see.

Rodgers legitimately might want out of Green Bay now.

Bovidae

Speaking of Rodgers, he should have kept on running instead of forcing a pass to Adams.

Brady throws 3 INTs and still gets the win.

barbarian

The Bucs D won that game, super impressive performance. Rodgers will be regretting some things, but for them their leaky secondary in the first half killed them. You can't give Brady that sort of lead and expect to win.

mariner4life

Tjat Tampa safety (whitehead?) Hits like a truck. They'll be hoping he's fir.for the SB

mariner4life

Bills defence very disciplined so far

barbarian

Chiefs just clicking into gear now. Looks a bit ominous for the Bills.

mariner4life

The Chiefs are great fun to watch

KiwiMurph

Brady may be the GOAT but Mahomes is the best QB in the league right now by a country mile.

KiwiMurph

Bills are going to have to take some risks on O and D to have any chance.

barbarian

Yeah they've opted for two FGs on their last two drives, and it's going to kill them.

You don't beat the Chiefs in 3 point increments, especially when their offence is looking pretty good.

Bovidae

@KiwiMurph said in NFL Season 2020/21:

Brady may be the GOAT but Mahomes is the best QB in the league right now by a country mile.

Young legs means Mahomes always stays alive.

Plenty of niggle to end the game.

ACT Crusader

The build up to this Super Bowl is going to be off the charts...

mariner4life

hey Stephen A

what does this weekend mean for Aaron Rodgers' legacy? mmmm? what was that?

Brady just wins in January. Throw 3 picks? no worries, win.

KiwiMurph

Hard to see Chiefs being beaten in the AFC in the short term.

Perhaps if Colts or Miami Dolphins land a top QB - otherwise it's all Chiefs.

canefan

@mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21:

hey Stephen A

what does this weekend mean for Aaron Rodgers' legacy? mmmm? what was that?

Brady just wins in January. Throw 3 picks? no worries, win.

The chatter on ESPN is that Rodgers will leave GB. Where will he go? Perhaps it's time to go full circle, head home and play for the team of your childhood the 49ers, the team who passed on you in the draft? 🙏

KiwiMurph

@canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21:

@mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21:

hey Stephen A

what does this weekend mean for Aaron Rodgers' legacy? mmmm? what was that?

Brady just wins in January. Throw 3 picks? no worries, win.

The chatter on ESPN is that Rodgers will leave GB. Where will he go? Perhaps it's time to go full circle, head home and play for the team of your childhood the 49ers, the team who passed on you in the draft? 🙏

Rodgers leaving has already been shut down by Packers/Rodgers. Was just Rodgers venting after a tough loss.

KiwiMurph

Wow. Texans have hired David Culley.

A 65 year old first time head coach. He's never been an offensive coordinator but he is the passing game coordinator for Ravens (they have the last-ranked passing attack in the league). He was also WR coach for Chiefs one year when not one Chief WR had a touchdown. Has been in the NFL since 1994.

Cannot see Watson wanting to hang around.