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@Bovidae said in NFL Season 2020/21:

The ESPN story says Watson asked for a trade weeks ago.

Yeah which makes the timing interesting. Its presumably Watson's camp trying to build pressure. He's also apparently not going to be fussy about teams - there's only a short list that he'd veto.

The Texans are apparently not returning calls. This is starting to feel a bit like Jamal Adams. The Texans will stick to their guns and hold Watson (he might have more leverage than the average player but the Texans are still in a stronger overall position), but if/when someone makes the right offer it'll happen fast.

If Adams was 2 firsts and a 3rd, I expect the Texans hold out for 4 or 5 firsts depending on what else is in the package and how high the first is this year. Jets and Dolphins (and in theory the Jags) might be able to get away with 3 since they have such a high first.

If the Texans get a haul like that this could end up being the a Herschel Walker moment for the them. Or we'll all be reminded of Jimmy Johnson's assessment that it wasn't the trade that was good value, it was getting the draft picks right.

Lions and rams swapping QBs

@mariner4life Lions take on Goff's huge contract meanwhile Rams give up 2 x first round picks and a 3rd round pick.

@KiwiMurph interesting trade. Stafford I think is a very good QB stuck at a terrible team

That said, he hasn't made a bad team good, so has he had the lions as an excuse?

@mariner4life The Lions excuse is a fair one. He hasn't had a decent running game, coach or defence his entire career.

@mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21:

@KiwiMurph interesting trade. Stafford I think is a very good QB stuck at a terrible team

That said, he hasn't made a bad team good, so has he had the lions as an excuse?

He certainly has less excuses now. Big year for Stafford

I would have been okay with having him come to SF. He's had some good years in a pretty dire organisation

@canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21:

I would have been okay with having him come to SF. He's had some good years in a pretty dire organisation

Agreed. 49ers aren't aggressive enough. Now they are stuck with the worst QB in the division.

Good move by the Rams.

@KiwiMurph said in NFL Season 2020/21:

@canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21:

I would have been okay with having him come to SF. He's had some good years in a pretty dire organisation

Agreed. 49ers aren't aggressive enough. Now they are stuck with the worst QB in the division.

Good move by the Rams.

Maybe Shanahan truly believes he can get a sweet tune out of Jimmy G? He can't put the team on his back for the win, and as good as SF's run game and defence are you can't go without a passing threat under centre

Texans will be stoked. If that's the price for Stafford then Watson is at least twice that.

Lions new GM is the Rams old head of college scouting, so must believe that Goff can be a genuine QB in this league. They have so much draft capital now they have the potential to go on a really good run.

Rams window is now tiny. A couple of years with Stafford before he goes into decline and the talent draught starts to bite.

@Cyclops Part of that price for Stafford was because Lions were willing to take on Goff's big contract. Without Goff the price would have been less.

It's a great move for the Lions - they are at the beginning of the rebuild so even if they don't rate Goff particularly highly they can afford him for the next two years and by doing so they got more picks - plus at worst he can be a bridge QB for the next guy they think is their long term QB.

Yeah I hadn't realised quite how much Goff's deal had guaranteed.

Definitely a win for the Lions. A qb at 7 is even possible and they can take their time to develop them behind Goff.

The Rams last first round pick was Goff in 2016 and they currently don't have another until 2024.

fuck i hate Tom Brady

Don't get me wrong, if there was a game winning drive that needed to be executed to save my life, there is no other person ever that i would want under centre.

Tom Brady isn't physically gifted. He's not that strong, he's not that fast. He's not even that big at 6'4 and 225.

But Tom Brady just fucking wins. 10 Superbowls! He personally has been to more than any team/franchise in its history. He's won more rings himself than every other team except the Steelers, who have the same. He went to a new team, a team that hasn't been to the SB in 18 years. And takes them straight back to it. At 43 fucking years old.

I hate the way he wins. I hate his polished media persona. I hate his hot but bitchy wife. Fuck Tom Brady.

I really hope the far more talented Mahomes cleans him up. And then he better enjoy it, because no way does Mahomes go on to have the career Brady has had. fucking GOAT. god i hate him, what a legend

@mariner4life is it on Monday the 8th??

Fantastic if so as it's a public holiday over here

@Hooroo yep. pretty sure i'll be working from home...

Looking at some of the numpties that have been given HC jobs for next season (did you hear the Eagles' new HC????), I am still amazed that this guy can't get a shot.

Interesting hire from the Eagles. It's telling that even Colts fans are asking "really? that guy?"

@mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21:

Interesting hire from the Eagles. It's telling that even Colts fans are asking "really? that guy?"

Looks like, after a few excellent years, they will go back into mediocrity led by a young buffoon

Carson Wentz a distinct possibility of moving on as well?

There will be more teams with new QBs than not next season

@mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21:

Carson Wentz a distinct possibility of moving on as well?

There will be more teams with new QBs than not next season

Will be interesting to see if the new guy wants to give Jalen Hurt a decent run or not. I think Wentz flatters to deceive. And he's often hurt

Who’s watching?

Buccs score 1st quarter. Fucking Brady.

@gt12 said in NFL Season 2020/21:

Who’s watching?

Buccs score 1st quarter. Fucking Brady.

me.

Fuck Tom Brady.

Possibly a second- but some good D by the bucs at last on their goal line.

... and no TD with a big stop by KC on the goal line. Great calls by the refs

KC getting killed by cheap penalties. Costing them big time.

@nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21:

KC getting killed by cheap penalties. Costing them big time.

I like seeing poor disciplined teams losing.

Imagine being selected in the NFL for your ability to kick and being as bad as the KC kicker.

@antipodean said in NFL Season 2020/21:

@nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21:

KC getting killed by cheap penalties. Costing them big time.

I like seeing poor disciplined teams losing.

And another at the end of the half. FFS KC, you keep giving Brady chance after chance, he'll kill you.

Are those yellow gloves a good idea?

Clearly not.

Buccs in again.

@gt12 said in NFL Season 2020/21:

Buccs in again.

KC playing stupid. It's like watching the Blues again from a few years ago

Bucs defence is doing an amazing job so far.

Chiefs get the ball after halftime though so halftime adjustments will be interesting.

I used to hate Tom Brady. Not anymore. The guy is unreal.

@KiwiMurph said in NFL Season 2020/21:

I used to hate Tom Brady. Not anymore. The guy is unreal.

apparently only partially human. Not the most talented QB, but goddamn he knows how to win. It's scary.

Hoping (but not expecting) a massive KC comeback now

If you had to choose one player, in their sport, to play for your life (e.g., Steph Curry to shoot for 3; MJ to score in the last 30; Wilkinson to land a dropkick), it would be very hard to go past Brady and Superbowl.

Is he the best professional sports player, ever? [Even if the doesn't win today?]

@KiwiMurph said in NFL Season 2020/21:

Bucs defence is doing an amazing job so far.

Chiefs get the ball after halftime though so halftime adjustments will be interesting.

I used to hate Tom Brady. Not anymore. The guy is unreal.

So this. I hated him, but I just can't now. He's so good that I can only watch and shake my head.

He's older than me, and [right now] on track to lead his team to a Super bowl. Fucking, wow.

@gt12 Tiger Woods circa 97-08 shooting a birdie. Guaranteed money right there!

@ACT-Crusader said in NFL Season 2020/21:

@gt12 Tiger Woods circa 97-08 shooting a birdie. Guaranteed money right there!

is that a euphemism?

Also, Fournette just scored, that should be the game.

Is it just me or does Mahomes look like he is still carrying an injury? Doesn't look to have his usual mobility.

@gt12 said in NFL Season 2020/21:

If you had to choose one player, in their sport, to play for your life (e.g., Steph Curry to shoot for 3; MJ to score in the last 30; Wilkinson to land a dropkick), it would be very hard to go past Brady and Superbowl.

Is he the best professional sports player, ever? [Even if the doesn't win today?]

This will be the topic on sports talk shows for the next week.

All about narratives.

@KiwiMurph said in NFL Season 2020/21:

Is it just me or does Mahomes look like he is still carrying an injury? Doesn't look to have his usual mobility.

so many drops from his receivers. Nt sure they'd win, but goddamn they'd be in the game right now

@nzzp their offensive line have been absolutely destroyed too - he's running for his life.

@KiwiMurph said in NFL Season 2020/21:

@nzzp their offensive line have been absolutely destroyed too - he's running for his life.

spot on.

Throws have generally been good - just not connecting or getting rythmn.

Amazing from Brady. At 43 in this league to put up that quality of performance AGAIN - you just have to congratulate him and marvel at it. Still annoying though, fuck TB12