Klitschko, Fury, Parker, Takam & Joshua

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<p>I don't quite know why SBW gets so much derision about playing different sports though. He is basically playing variations of one sport and adding in taking something his does in his training to a competitive environment as well.</p>
<p>Now compare that to Jeff Wilson who was a prodigious talent in rugby and cricket, with national representation and by all accounts could have probably played for the Tall lacks as well if he had the time to dedicate to a third sport. No one gives him shit about that.</p>
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<p>SBW gets "derision" because he changes so often.</p>
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<p>Once Goldie made the All Blacks he concentrated fully on rugby.</p>
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<p>isn't it obvious?</p>
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<p>Last post I'll make on that... talking about SBW in this thread is disrespectful to real boxers like Parker</p>

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<p>SBW gets "derision" because he changes so often.</p>
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<p>Once Goldie made the All Blacks he concentrated fully on rugby.</p>
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<p>isn't it obvious?</p>
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<p>Last post I'll make on that... talking about SBW in this thread is disrespectful to real boxers like Parker</p>
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<p>Talking about SBW as a top boxer is the equivalent of Joseph Parker concentrating on Rugby and getting as far as a premier team in Auckland.....but no further.......</p>

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<p>You'd have to say Goldie was a better all round "talent" ( not necessarily "athlete" ) than SBW or Hayne based on what he did. A lot of guys are very good at our winter and summer codes ( Kieran Read and Leon MacDonald to mention a couple, Rod Latham played rugby for Canterbury too ) but it's easy to forget that Wilson did all this to the highest level AND was a brilliant basketballer too which he never found time to play......</p>
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<p>I always wonder where he would have stood in the echelon of Black Caps had he chosen to pursue that....there was a whole lot of decent ODI all rounders at the time so despite the All Blacks being better at what they did than the BCs ever were at that period I suspect he made the right choice.</p>
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<p>Pretty sure I heard Goldie say it's a myth that he's good at basketball. He said it's a myth he really likes though.</p>

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<p>Pretty sure I heard Goldie say it's a myth that he's good at basketball. He said it's a myth he really likes though.</p>
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<p>Really ? I'm sure he made all the respective age grade teams growing up and had a real future if the other two didn't get in the way.</p>

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<p>Pretty sure I heard Goldie say it's a myth that he's good at basketball. He said it's a myth he really likes though.</p>
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<p>I remember the comments coming out when he was young and from learned sources. IIRC he certainly had BB people keeping an eye on his sporting decisions.</p>
<p>Don't think anyone is saying he would have been an NBA recruit but domestic regular.</p>

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<p>I remember the comments coming out when he was young and from learned sources. IIRC he certainly had BB people keeping an eye on his sporting decisions.</p>
<p><strong>Don't think anyone is saying he would have been an NBA recruit but domestic regular.</strong></p>
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<p>Yeah but is that any less an achievement than SBWs boxing ?</p>

<p>We see Goldie a lot as my boy plays cricket with his. Will ask about basketball, actually may not seem him until November again. But anyway, I was telling my boy who he is and I said he was a better all round sportsman that SBW. Remember in cricket he could both bat and bowl. Athetic in the field too. True all arounder.</p>

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<p>We saw Goldie a lot as my boy plays cricket with his. Will ask about basketball, actually may not seem him until November again. But anyway, I was telling my boy who he is and I said he was a better all round sportsman that SBW. Remember in cricket he could both bat and bowl. Athetic in the field too. True all arounder.</p>
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<p>In Rugby he was competing against Jonah, Cully, Umaga, Randle, Reihana, Osborne, Cashmore etc....he did so and had a fine career.</p>
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<p>In Cricket it would have been Cairns, Harris, Oram, Styris, Nash.....I could be completely wrong but I reckon ousting the likes of those guys would have been tougher despite NZs respective strength in Rugby and Cricket worldwide.......</p>

<p>it was MN5 that bought SBW into the thread....</p>

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<p>Really ? I'm sure he made all the respective age grade teams growing up and had a real future if the other two didn't get in the way.</p>
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<p>Goldie's incredibly humble, so he could've just been talking himself down again. The way he downplays his rugby career, you'd think he was some scrub winger who only made Heartland level.</p>

<p>Do Goldie and his wife have any kids? Can't remember her name, and can't be fucked looking it up, but she was a very gifted sportswoman. Probably ended her netball career too early. Looking forward to see if the genes have been passed on if they have.</p>

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<p>We see Goldie a lot as my boy plays cricket with his. Will ask about basketball, actually may not seem him until November again. But anyway, I was telling my boy who he is and I said he was a better all round sportsman that SBW. Remember in cricket he could both bat and bowl. Athetic in the field too. True all arounder.</p>
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<p>Duh! I guess Goldie does have kids...</p>

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<p>Do Goldie and his wife have any kids? Can't remember her name, and can't be fucked looking it up, but she was a very gifted sportswoman. Probably ended her netball career too early. Looking forward to see if the genes have been passed on if they have.</p>
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<p> Adine Wilson (nee Harper)</p>
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<p>Wing attack for Silver Ferns. Captained them for last two years including to gold medal at Comm Games in Melbourne</p>
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<p>Retired due to pregnancy so yeah, the evidence that Goldie has kids is building</p>

<p>Talent normally skips a generation so expect his kids kids to be All Blacks/Silver Ferns.</p>

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<p> Adine Wilson (nee Harper)</p>
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<p>Wing attack for Silver Ferns. Captained them for last two years including to gold medal at Comm Games in Melbourne</p>
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<p>Retired due to pregnancy so yeah, the evidence that Goldie has kids is building</p>
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<p>Yep definitely worth an investigation now. If only I knew where to start looking for clues. Where's Aucklandwarlord when you need him?</p>

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<p>NRL - NFL - Rugby</p>
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<p>vs</p>
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<p>NRL - Rugby - Boxing</p>
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<p>Or are you counting 7s and 15s as 2 different sports?</p>
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<p>yes</p>
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<p>Ummm, Hayne played for Fiji 7's this weekend in London, so 4 v 4 or 3 v 3</p>

<p>At primary school, Goldie also won Otago-Southland (and South Island in long jump, I think) titles in the 100 metres, long jump, and shotput!</p>
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<p>I do recall him making a bit of a dick of himself doing an interview for a sort of "Sunday"-type current affairs show, where he said he didn't want to do any media work and just wanted to play rugby. Came across as very sulky and spoiled. He's certainly grown up from then!  :)</p>

<p>With receding hairlines comes advancing wisdom</p>
<p><em>-Goldie c2016</em></p>

<p>Interesting (to a boxing newbie) that some folks think Joe needs a different coach. The things most of us have listed as work on's were things you could hear Barry telling him during the fight. Keep your hands up, work the body, and something about body position when throwing shots?? </p>
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<p>Guess the test is whether Barry can get Joe doing those things in the ring rather than just talking about them? While SH will pose a different challenge it'll be something to watch for - do we see Joe boxing differently etc...</p>

<p>I watched Goldie play my school in an interschool basketball game in 1992. Our school was probably one of the top 4-5 in the country, and we did beat Cargill comfortably, but he was far and away the clear star for their side.</p>

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<p>Do Goldie and his wife have any kids? Can't remember her name, and can't be fucked looking it up, but she was a very gifted sportswoman. Probably ended her netball career too early. Looking forward to see if the genes have been passed on if they have.</p>
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<p>Twin boys. 8 years old.  Dont think there are any other siblings from memory.</p>

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I don't know, at least when it comes to cricket we've had plenty of father/son combos - with the sons outshining their father. Hadlee, Cairns, Harris, Braces and Latham on their way.<br><br>
Rugby might be the case Paul Williams, Anton Oliver good careers but not their dads for sure.

<p>Back on topic, Haumono's last fight was shown on Sky Sports.</p>
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<p>He took several rounds to finish off a fat unfit Argentinian who didn't even attempt to throw a punch.</p>
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<p>I won't be giving duco $50 to watch the farce this fight will be.</p>

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<p>Back on topic, Haumono's last fight was shown on Sky Sports.</p>
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<p>He took several rounds to finish off a fat unfit Argentinian who didn't even attempt to throw a punch.</p>
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<p><strong>I won't be giving duco $50 to watch the farce this fight will be.</strong></p>
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<p>will be interesting how they promote the next one and for how much, especially with the streaming issues they have had too.</p>

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<p>I don't know, at least when it comes to cricket we've had plenty of father/son combos - with the sons outshining their father. Hadlee, Cairns, Harris, Braces and Latham on their way.<br><br>
Rugby might be the case Paul Williams, Anton Oliver good careers but not their dads for sure.</p>
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<p>Anton would go down as a better AB than Frank surely ? I mean he was one of the hard men of his generation but, throwing aside, Anton was pretty decent.</p>

<p>guess we'll see what happens to DC's young un, AB great, Black Stick....probably be a fashion designer ;)</p>

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<p>guess we'll see what happens to DC's young un, AB great, Black Stick....probably be a fashion designer ;)</p>
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<p>Don Bradmans son changed his name by deed poll to escape the pressure. I guess averaging over 100 is quite a bit to ask for.</p>

<p>I'm pretty certain Adine Harper/Wilson took a year off netball to have a kid, came back and then retired because she was pregnant again</p>

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<p>Twin boys. 8 years old.  Dont think there are any other siblings from memory.</p>
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<p>That must have been one very long pregnancy</p>
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<p>From Wiki <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adine_Wilson'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adine_Wilson</a></p>
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<p>Wilson joined the <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otago_Rebels' title="Otago Rebels">Otago Rebels</a>, while studying law and physcial education at the <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Otago' title="University of Otago">University of Otago</a>.^{<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adine_Wilson#cite_note-3'>[3]</a>} She signed with the <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Sting' title="Southern Sting">Southern Sting</a> for the 2001 season^{<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adine_Wilson#cite_note-4'>[4]</a>} and remained with the franchise until 2007, winning five titles. In 2008, Wilson pulled out of the new <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Steel' title="Southern Steel">Southern Steel</a> team in the inaugural <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANZ_Championship' title="ANZ Championship">ANZ Championship</a> because of pregnancy.^{<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adine_Wilson#cite_note-5'>[5]</a>}</p>
<p>Wilson returned to the game in 2009 and captained the Southern Steel.^{<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adine_Wilson#cite_note-6'>[6]</a>} She retired after the 2009 season, confirming she was once again pregnant.^{<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adine_Wilson#cite_note-Stuff_2009-7'>[7]</a>}</p>
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<p>Perhaps a mod could start a seperate thread for all the Jeff Wilson stalkers out there?</p>

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<p>That must have been one very long pregnancy</p>
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<p>From Wiki <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adine_Wilson'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adine_Wilson</a></p>
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<p>Checked in with the source of all things gossipy (ie the wife) and she said not twins, the young one is just tall. About 18months apart.</p>

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<p>Checked in with the source of all things gossipy (ie the wife) and she said not twins, the young one is just tall. About 18months apart.</p>
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<p>My boys ( 6 and almost 8 ) have been mistaken for twins on three separate occasions by the same person, I might start going to a different supermarket where the staff are a bit more onto it......</p>

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<p>guess we'll see what happens to DC's young un, AB great, Black Stick....probably be a fashion designer ;)</p>
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<p>Wouldn't be surprised. Imagine the pressure to play any sport and be brilliant at it.</p>

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<p>Listening to Darcy on radio sport, interviewing Jeff Wilson :)</p>
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<p>His first question was, so how far did you make it in basketball?</p>
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<p>Which one of you stalkers is Darcy?</p>

<p>I smell a rat , and I dont think Duco can see it , </p>
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<p>the biggest paydays for Joshua are , Fury  ,  Haye , Klitchko , </p>
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<p>Joseph is the mandatory and has no profile in England , no profile equals little money , </p>
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<p>Haye beats Joseph and takes the mandatory  , that gets rid of that problem , Haye and Joshua have the same promoter , </p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/80535388/joseph-parkers-handlers-talk-tough-as-prospect-of-fight-with-britains-david-haye-raised'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/80535388/joseph-parkers-handlers-talk-tough-as-prospect-of-fight-with-britains-david-haye-raised</a></p>

Wish Lonnergan would shut up, he's a fucking idiot

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<p>Wish Lonnergan would shut up, he's a fucking idiot</p>
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<p>My thoughts too after seeing his comments on the news tonight.  Too many concussions obviously!!</p>

<p>What's the big douche saying now ? still getting all tough guy about suing the live streamers ?</p>

Gotta keep away from Hayes as nothing to gain there. Very high risk fight. Whyte would be a better option if looking to raise parkers uk profile