Klitschko, Fury, Parker, Takam & Joshua

<p>Talent normally skips a generation so expect his kids kids to be All Blacks/Silver Ferns.</p>

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<p> Adine Wilson (nee Harper)</p>
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<p>Wing attack for Silver Ferns. Captained them for last two years including to gold medal at Comm Games in Melbourne</p>
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<p>Retired due to pregnancy so yeah, the evidence that Goldie has kids is building</p>
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<p>Yep definitely worth an investigation now. If only I knew where to start looking for clues. Where's Aucklandwarlord when you need him?</p>

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<p>NRL - NFL - Rugby</p>
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<p>NRL - Rugby - Boxing</p>
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<p>Or are you counting 7s and 15s as 2 different sports?</p>
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<p>Ummm, Hayne played for Fiji 7's this weekend in London, so 4 v 4 or 3 v 3</p>

<p>At primary school, Goldie also won Otago-Southland (and South Island in long jump, I think) titles in the 100 metres, long jump, and shotput!</p>
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<p>I do recall him making a bit of a dick of himself doing an interview for a sort of "Sunday"-type current affairs show, where he said he didn't want to do any media work and just wanted to play rugby. Came across as very sulky and spoiled. He's certainly grown up from then!  :)</p>

<p>With receding hairlines comes advancing wisdom</p>
<p><em>-Goldie c2016</em></p>

<p>Interesting (to a boxing newbie) that some folks think Joe needs a different coach. The things most of us have listed as work on's were things you could hear Barry telling him during the fight. Keep your hands up, work the body, and something about body position when throwing shots?? </p>
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<p>Guess the test is whether Barry can get Joe doing those things in the ring rather than just talking about them? While SH will pose a different challenge it'll be something to watch for - do we see Joe boxing differently etc...</p>

<p>I watched Goldie play my school in an interschool basketball game in 1992. Our school was probably one of the top 4-5 in the country, and we did beat Cargill comfortably, but he was far and away the clear star for their side.</p>

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<p>Do Goldie and his wife have any kids? Can't remember her name, and can't be fucked looking it up, but she was a very gifted sportswoman. Probably ended her netball career too early. Looking forward to see if the genes have been passed on if they have.</p>
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<p>Twin boys. 8 years old.  Dont think there are any other siblings from memory.</p>

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I don't know, at least when it comes to cricket we've had plenty of father/son combos - with the sons outshining their father. Hadlee, Cairns, Harris, Braces and Latham on their way.<br><br>
Rugby might be the case Paul Williams, Anton Oliver good careers but not their dads for sure.

<p>Back on topic, Haumono's last fight was shown on Sky Sports.</p>
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<p>He took several rounds to finish off a fat unfit Argentinian who didn't even attempt to throw a punch.</p>
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<p>I won't be giving duco $50 to watch the farce this fight will be.</p>

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<p>Back on topic, Haumono's last fight was shown on Sky Sports.</p>
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<p>He took several rounds to finish off a fat unfit Argentinian who didn't even attempt to throw a punch.</p>
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<p><strong>I won't be giving duco $50 to watch the farce this fight will be.</strong></p>
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<p>will be interesting how they promote the next one and for how much, especially with the streaming issues they have had too.</p>

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<p>I don't know, at least when it comes to cricket we've had plenty of father/son combos - with the sons outshining their father. Hadlee, Cairns, Harris, Braces and Latham on their way.<br><br>
Rugby might be the case Paul Williams, Anton Oliver good careers but not their dads for sure.</p>
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<p>Anton would go down as a better AB than Frank surely ? I mean he was one of the hard men of his generation but, throwing aside, Anton was pretty decent.</p>

<p>guess we'll see what happens to DC's young un, AB great, Black Stick....probably be a fashion designer ;)</p>

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<p>guess we'll see what happens to DC's young un, AB great, Black Stick....probably be a fashion designer ;)</p>
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<p>Don Bradmans son changed his name by deed poll to escape the pressure. I guess averaging over 100 is quite a bit to ask for.</p>

<p>I'm pretty certain Adine Harper/Wilson took a year off netball to have a kid, came back and then retired because she was pregnant again</p>

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<p>Twin boys. 8 years old.  Dont think there are any other siblings from memory.</p>
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<p>That must have been one very long pregnancy</p>
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<p>From Wiki <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adine_Wilson'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adine_Wilson</a></p>
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<p>Wilson joined the <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otago_Rebels' title="Otago Rebels">Otago Rebels</a>, while studying law and physcial education at the <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Otago' title="University of Otago">University of Otago</a>.^{<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adine_Wilson#cite_note-3'>[3]</a>} She signed with the <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Sting' title="Southern Sting">Southern Sting</a> for the 2001 season^{<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adine_Wilson#cite_note-4'>[4]</a>} and remained with the franchise until 2007, winning five titles. In 2008, Wilson pulled out of the new <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Steel' title="Southern Steel">Southern Steel</a> team in the inaugural <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANZ_Championship' title="ANZ Championship">ANZ Championship</a> because of pregnancy.^{<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adine_Wilson#cite_note-5'>[5]</a>}</p>
<p>Wilson returned to the game in 2009 and captained the Southern Steel.^{<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adine_Wilson#cite_note-6'>[6]</a>} She retired after the 2009 season, confirming she was once again pregnant.^{<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adine_Wilson#cite_note-Stuff_2009-7'>[7]</a>}</p>
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<p>Perhaps a mod could start a seperate thread for all the Jeff Wilson stalkers out there?</p>

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<p>That must have been one very long pregnancy</p>
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<p>From Wiki <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adine_Wilson'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adine_Wilson</a></p>
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<p>Checked in with the source of all things gossipy (ie the wife) and she said not twins, the young one is just tall. About 18months apart.</p>

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<p>Checked in with the source of all things gossipy (ie the wife) and she said not twins, the young one is just tall. About 18months apart.</p>
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<p>My boys ( 6 and almost 8 ) have been mistaken for twins on three separate occasions by the same person, I might start going to a different supermarket where the staff are a bit more onto it......</p>

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<p>guess we'll see what happens to DC's young un, AB great, Black Stick....probably be a fashion designer ;)</p>
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<p>Wouldn't be surprised. Imagine the pressure to play any sport and be brilliant at it.</p>

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<p>Listening to Darcy on radio sport, interviewing Jeff Wilson :)</p>
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<p>His first question was, so how far did you make it in basketball?</p>
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<p>Which one of you stalkers is Darcy?</p>

<p>I smell a rat , and I dont think Duco can see it , </p>
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<p>the biggest paydays for Joshua are , Fury  ,  Haye , Klitchko , </p>
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<p>Joseph is the mandatory and has no profile in England , no profile equals little money , </p>
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<p>Haye beats Joseph and takes the mandatory  , that gets rid of that problem , Haye and Joshua have the same promoter , </p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/80535388/joseph-parkers-handlers-talk-tough-as-prospect-of-fight-with-britains-david-haye-raised'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/80535388/joseph-parkers-handlers-talk-tough-as-prospect-of-fight-with-britains-david-haye-raised</a></p>

Wish Lonnergan would shut up, he's a fucking idiot

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<p>Wish Lonnergan would shut up, he's a fucking idiot</p>
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<p>My thoughts too after seeing his comments on the news tonight.  Too many concussions obviously!!</p>

<p>What's the big douche saying now ? still getting all tough guy about suing the live streamers ?</p>

Gotta keep away from Hayes as nothing to gain there. Very high risk fight. Whyte would be a better option if looking to raise parkers uk profile

Exactly, Haye would be a tougher fight for Joe than Joshua IMO,<br><br>That would be a fight I would be avoiding unless it involved the title itself

<p>Muhammad Ali is on life support according to reports.</p>

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<p>Gotta keep away from Hayes as nothing to gain there. Very high risk fight. Whyte would be a better option if looking to raise parkers uk profile</p>
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<p>Fighting Hayes would earn Parker more money than Whyte/Joshua. Duco would probably chase that i believe.</p>

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<p>I don't know, at least when it comes to cricket we've had plenty of father/son combos - with the sons outshining their father. Hadlee, Cairns, Harris, Braces and Latham on their way.<br><br>
Rugby might be the case Paul Williams, Anton Oliver good careers but not their dads for sure.</p>
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<p>Records smecords. I'd rather have Lance than Chris.</p>

<p>OK, admittedly I don't watch a lot of boxing, but the Puerto Rican chap here looks a bit shit.</p>
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<p>The only reason I post this here, is because the Ukrainian guy does something that 0:25 in this clip I've not seen before in my limited viewing of the sweet science.</p>
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<p>Its like a fucking sidestep</p>
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<p>Great finish. He was gone after the first punch.</p>

<p>So Parker wins by TKO last night vs Haumono after dropping him with an uppercut. Some controversy as ref appeared to call the fight off early as Haumono wasnt that clear in whether he was up from the count or not.  I'm fairly sure Joseph would have finished the fight fairly quickly after then anyway but yeah....</p>
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<p>Fight itself was fairly underwhelming. Defence again a bit lacking, especially in the 3rd round but I guess by then that Joseph had realised that Haumono wasnt really going to hurt him despite him coming forward at him pretty much all the time. In fact Joseph got hit a fair bit, too much again for my liking. Seem to get less and less confident in Josephs abilities and potential each time he fights.</p>
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<p>So who next before AJ? Time for Whyte???</p>
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<p>I still think its too soon for fight AJ for a title and he would be much better place in another 18months or so but I guess he needs to take the oportunity, even if he may not be ready</p>

A mate pointed out an interesting point ,<br><br>Nearly all the top ranked fighters in the world who are considered more advanced than Joseph , are taller than him with a longer reach,<br><br>yet they have ( whether by choice or coincidence)hand picked fighters smaller than him

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<p>A mate pointed out an interesting point ,<br><br>
Nearly all the top ranked fighters in the world who are considered more advanced than Joseph ,<strong> are taller than him with a longer reach,</strong><br><br>
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<p>JP is 193cm in height and reach....forget Canes4Life bullshit, these stats are extremely accurate and fighters are weighed in before each fight as everyone knows. Some blokes his height are well over 200cm in reach so perhaps that will be telling as he doesn't appear to have the ferocious power that "short" fighters like Tyson, Tua, Marciano, Frazier etc had in abundance.</p>

Its interesting how the heavyweight fighters have evolved into these tall fighters , current world champion Fury is 6 foot nine , in previous eras that wouldve been for basketball not boxing,<br><br>Dadid Haye of the top ranked fighters is considered small at 6 foot 3 , still a bit taller than Ali

<p>But Tyson wasn't tall at 1.78 and in his prime I'd wager he'd hold his own against the overgrown contenders of today.</p>