Did Son come straight from South Korea? Can't remember.
@dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
Did Son come straight from South Korea? Can't remember.
From 18 he was at Hamburg then Leverkusen - joined Spurs at 23.
memory doesn't like been stretched, Gerrard started young..perhaps, just dont think that prolific early..
@KiwiPie said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
Added in their year of birth so you know the era
1 Fowler 93
2 Owen 91
3 Rooney 71
4 1993 60
5 Ronaldo 54
6 Kane 49
6 1973 49
8 1978 46
8 1997 46
10 1971 42
10 1996 42
Ah so that counts out my next suggestion of Glenn Hoddle who must be from about 1960 but he did bang in a fair few goals for Tottenham Hotspur.
On reflection my Spurs did spend a couple of seasons in the old Div 2 in the late 70s so that probably is where I might be wrong..
@Higgins said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
@KiwiPie said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
Added in their year of birth so you know the era
1 Fowler 93
2 Owen 91
3 Rooney 71
4 1993 60
5 Ronaldo 54
6 Kane 49
6 1973 49
8 1978 46
8 1997 46
10 1971 42
10 1996 42Ah so that counts out my next suggestion of Glenn Hoddle who must be from about 1960 but he did bang in a fair few goals for Tottenham Hotspur.
On reflection my Spurs did spend a couple of seasons in the old Div 2 in the late 70s so that probably is where I might be wrong..
Clive Allen scored a lot of goals for Spurs, Klinsmann too but he arrived later in age
@Hooroo said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
Theo Walcott??
23 goals in 37th place - very young but never that prolific
@canefan said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
Ian Rush?
Adebayor?
This is Premier League only. So if you're born before 1970 you're too old. Adebayor no but Anelka is tucked away in 28th spot with 25 goals.
Of the 3 current players, all 3 had underwhelming seasons for one reason or another.
@KiwiPie said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
@canefan said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
Ian Rush?
Adebayor?This is Premier League only. So if you're born before 1970 you're too old. Adebayor no but Anelka is tucked away in 28th spot with 25 goals.
Of the 3 current players, all 3 had underwhelming seasons for one reason or another.
Raheem Sterling?
Chris Sutton for either the 1996 or 1997.
Edit: I thought it was the year they achieved that feat so 1973.
@canefan said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
@KiwiPie said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
@canefan said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
Ian Rush?
Adebayor?This is Premier League only. So if you're born before 1970 you're too old. Adebayor no but Anelka is tucked away in 28th spot with 25 goals.
Of the 3 current players, all 3 had underwhelming seasons for one reason or another.
Raheem Sterling?
Close but 13th on 40 goals.
Yes Sutton is in - was only 21 when he went to Blackburn and scored 25 for Norwich the season before. (note the years are the years of birth)
1 Fowler 93
2 Owen 91
3 Rooney 71
4 1993 60
5 Ronaldo 54
6 Kane 49
6 Sutton 49
8 1978 46
8 1997 46
10 Cole 42
10 1996 42
3 left to get - the one born in 1978 is the hardest. Of the younger ones, one moved back to the EPL at the start of this season and the other moved clubs in January.
1 Fowler 93
2 Owen 91
3 Rooney 71
4 1993 60
5 Ronaldo 54
6 Kane 49
6 Sutton 49
8 1978 46
8 Rashford 46
10 Cole 42
10 1996 42
2 to get
1 Fowler 93
2 Owen 91
3 Rooney 71
4 Lukaku 60
5 Ronaldo 54
6 Kane 49
6 Sutton 49
8 1978 46
8 Rashford 46
10 Cole 42
10 1996 42
I thought Milner might be in there but none of those ages work out.
The 1996 one must have been the Jan club mover.
Alli?
Absolutely no clue on the '78 born one.
@MajorRage said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
I thought Milner might be in there but none of those ages work out.
The 1996 one must have been the Jan club mover.
Alli?
Absolutely no clue on the '78 born one.
Nailed it
1 Fowler 93
2 Owen 91
3 Rooney 71
4 Lukaku 60
5 Ronaldo 54
6 Kane 49
6 Sutton 49
8 1978 46
8 Rashford 46
10 Cole 42
10 Dele Alli 42
Some clues for the last fella - first scored in the EPL at age 18, played for Liverpool and a few other clubs, over 50 England caps
@Bovidae said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
I think I know who the 1978 player is: ##spoiler
Emile Heskey
##endspoiler
He is correct - that's your 10
@KiwiPie said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
@canefan said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
Ian Rush?
Adebayor?This is Premier League only. So if you're born before 1970 you're too old. Adebayor no but Anelka is tucked away in 28th spot with 25 goals.
Of the 3 current players, all 3 had underwhelming seasons for one reason or another.
Ah, I thought this was for just the top division rather than the specifically designated Permier League. That would count out the likes of Tony Cottee then.
@antipodean said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
Paul Scholes is a notable absence. He could score.
Giggs and Beckham too
None of Scholes, Giggs or Beckham were huge scorers though - not compared to Andy Cole who scored 55 in 70 games for Newcastle. Beckham scored 24 by age 23, Scholes less than 10 and Giggs scored 5 in the old Div 1 but still would have missed out on top 10 by a goal if those were included.
Top EPL scorers with pens removed - in brackets is their actual total - Cole scored just one penalty and Ferdinand zero.
Shearer 204 (260)
Cole 186 (187)
Rooney 185 (208)
Aguero 157 (184)
Kane 153 (181)
Henry 153 (175)
Ferdinand 149 (149)
Fowler 147 (163)
Defoe 147 (162)
Owen 136 (150)
Lampard 134 (177)
van Persie 129 (144)
Sheringham 126 (147)
Wow, very quiet here.
Another night of glory for Real Madrid. 14 now, quite the record. Liverpool dominated the game but a MOTM perf from Courtois denied them the ball in the back of the net.
2 opportunities for Real and they took both (one disallowed).
Looks like major stadium mgmt issues, Liverpool fans seemingly the victims of poor Parisian management. Call me skeptical on that one.
Anyway, 3 cup finals, zero goals scored but 2 victories. Seems Klopp still hasn’t quite got the cup final game plan sorted.
On the flip side, Ancelotti wins his 4th. Best ever decision to leave Everton for RM?
@MajorRage said in EPL 2021 / 2022
Looks like major stadium mgmt issues, Liverpool fans seemingly the victims of poor Parisian management. Call me skeptical on that one.
There have been dozens of big sporting occasions at Stade De France before and I've never heard of any problems.
On balance, I'm pleased for Madrid. Their coach seems a very decent man. Another big final where Modric ran the show in midfield in the second half. Great player. Goalkeeper was superb too.
17 UEFA finals in a row from the Spanish Clubs where they've beaten foreign opposition. They really know how to peak on the big evenings.
I've not enjoyed the cockiness from Liverpool FC fans this season. Yes, they won the League Cup and the FA Cup. But they blew golden opportunities to win the League and the Champions League that aren't going to come around every year. Kloop was a fool for letting talk of the Quadruple grow like wild fire. Dare I say, Liverpool fans needed to "calm down."
Interesting thread from an eye witness to last night.
I still don't get why last night was so different to the dozens of big sports events in the Stade De Frwnce that have passed happily?
@sparky said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
Interesting thread from an eye witness to last night.
I still don't get why last night was so different to the dozens of big sports events in the Stade De Frwnce that have passed happily?
UEFA's excuse was that the turnstiles were jammed by fake tickets. It does seem odd that they couldn't sort things out. When did they step in to host? It wasn't that short notice, and as you say they have run plenty of events of this size in the past. Not the first time Liverpool fans have had trouble in Europe
One eye witness saying there were problems at the France Ireland 6 Nations game too.
Clearly the situatuon will need to be better before the Stade de France hosts RWC World Cup knockouts and the Olympics.
@canefan said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
@MajorRage crazy to think they have a game day blackout in the UK for the EPL. Surely people would still go to the games, and the broadcast money would be worth a lot more?
Not the the last day of the season.
Forest are back!
Nottingham Forest beat Huddersfield Town 1-0 in the Championship play off final to win promotion back to the Premiership for the first time in 23 years.
On the UCL Final.
Real came with a good game plan to contain Liverpool, they nearly always kept 6-7 when attacking so although Liverpool had a lot of space to break into, their was a set defence in front of them. The Real defence did really well getting a foot in once Liverpool got close to the area, and a lot of Liverpool moves broke down that way. While Liverpool had some good chances and Courtois when some fantastic saves, the chances came from moments of skill rather than breaking the defence down.
On the disallowed goal to Real - couldn't see how Benzema was offside as there seemed to be 2 Liverpool touches to get the ball to him, one of which was deliberate. Was total chaos anyway. On the deciding goal, Liverpool seemed too lax to allow Valverde to get it across and Vini Jr to sneak in. TAA cannot be a great full back until he isn't a defensive liability.
Wonder whether Liverpool just ran out of steam in the end. They are an irresistible force while they can play high-energy football for 90 minutes but this was their 63rd game of the season.
On the outside stadium chaos
Surely for big occasions where they know people may turn up without tickets, they need to check tickets away from the stadium - and this will also deter people from trying to get in. Who knows how many extra people were there and if the ticket scanners were playing up then that is another problem.
On the Play-off final
Only saw some of the 2nd half, was pretty dull viewing. Huddersfield had 2 very good penalty shouts where the VAR backed the ref so will be feeling aggrieved.
@sparky said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
But they blew golden opportunities to win the League
i get that this is a great time to have a wee troll of Liverpool supporters, but i reckon stick to the bits with merit
Liverpool won 15 and drew 2 of their last 17 league games and dipped out by a point. Not sure there is too much else they could have done.
To not score in 3 finals points to something lacking in the way Klopp is approaching them
In the end slightly disappointing to have such a great season but only come away with the two trophies the big sides only really care about if they reach the semis.
Could be worse though.
Strong rumours that Sadio Mane is off to Bayern amid rumours that Lewanowski wants one more big club/payday. Which leads to rumours that Liverpool want Son. Have to love the end of the season.
@mariner4life said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
@sparky said in EPL 2021 / 2022:
But they blew golden opportunities to win the League
i get that this is a great time to have a wee troll of Liverpool supporters, but i reckon stick to the bits with merit
Liverpool won 15 and drew 2 of their last 17 league games and dipped out by a point. Not sure there is too much else they could have done.
To not score in 3 finals points to something lacking in the way Klopp is approaching them
In the end slightly disappointing to have such a great season but only come away with the two trophies the big sides only really care about if they reach the semis.
Could be worse though.
Liverpool really lost the league earlier in the season when they gave City a gap. Their second half couldn't have been much better.