All Blacks vs Springboks I

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@l_n_p I liked the article, read it last night. Interesting insights

The Lions really didn't try to play much rugby against the Boks. Australia did, and it showed. Fitness the big issue for the Boks this weekend I suspect

That article was a cut above, with actually relevant clips! Impressed.

Given his background as a pro analyst, Nick Bishop is head-and-shoulders better than any current rugby writer that I know. He does the same level and tbh even better on "TheXV.Rugby" which is a paysite.

Seems a lovely good-natured bloke too ... engages really positively in the Comments section and is not afraid to (very) politely educate people!

@l_n_p said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Referee is English again.

Same two refs for the next two weeks vs Bokke. Clear Bok advantage - they know how they whistle the game All Blacks clear underdogs, playing away from home against world champions...

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@l_n_p said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Referee is English again.

Same two refs for the next two weeks vs Bokke. Clear Bok advantage - they know how they whistle the game All Blacks clear underdogs, playing away from home against world champions...

:face_with_tears_of_joy: It's quite a turnaround when English refereeing style actually suits the ABs :face_with_tears_of_joy:

Players like Papilli will need to mind their manners in defensive breakdowns, they may not get the half-second where they accidentally-on-purpose slow down the ball post-tackle.

When is the team named?

@l_n_p said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@l_n_p I liked the article, read it last night. Interesting insights

The Lions really didn't try to play much rugby against the Boks. Australia did, and it showed. Fitness the big issue for the Boks this weekend I suspect

It's going to be very tactical with the AB's wanting the ball in play, the Boks quite the opposite! Probably a fast but conservative game for the first 50 at least to wear out the Boks - a lot of kicking deep for space from the AB playmakers. Down the middle if needed.

I always remember that RWC2015 semi-final where it could easily have gone both ways but logically I can't imagine how the Boks can make such huge adjustments in a week, plus AB coaches can build from watching Australia's victory.

Referee is English again.

The article addresses how the Boks seemingly don't know what to do with the quick ball and don't have players set to take advantage. I think the other aspect is that they simply don't have the time to be boring. They can't slow things down to organise a kick or even look for the space to kick to.
No doubt much of the same analysis is being done by them and I think we may see quick ball trucked up close to the breakdown without too much effort to gain ground so that they can revert to type on the next phase. i.e. take two goes to get set.

@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

When is the team named?

Some time between now and the kickoff

@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Why does Jesse Kriel not get a run? Lovely swerve and good player!

The Pierre Spies of centers.

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@l_n_p said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Referee is English again.

Same two refs for the next two weeks vs Bokke. Clear Bok advantage - they know how they whistle the game All Blacks clear underdogs, playing away from home against world champions...

Who is the ref. Hoping it is Luke Pearce for AB sakes. Best ref around currently in my view.

@arhs said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@l_n_p said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Referee is English again.

Same two refs for the next two weeks vs Bokke. Clear Bok advantage - they know how they whistle the game All Blacks clear underdogs, playing away from home against world champions...

Who is the ref. Hoping it is Luke Pearce for AB sakes. Best ref around currently in my view.

Pearce this week and Carley next test.

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Jesus there some clueless comments here, not all of them, but these leapt out. More stuff to be up on the changing room walls

This is not the same team that won the World Cup. Let's be very clear on that. They've lost a number of their players who have headed off overseas

SA freely pick from anywhere

And two years ago, they were playing a lot more open and expansive rugby than this team is showing us this year."

Obviously didn't watch the semi versus Wales

The fullback is fine; Willie le Roux is a very good player

Was

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"Willie le Roux is a very good player"

“Willie le Roux was a very good player” he has been average for quite sometime

@bayimports check your emails bro

@Nogusta where’s the oil

@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@bayimports check your emails bro

@Nogusta where’s the oil

mate has a new job, he now only gets it second hand so the well has become dry for me

@bayimports did he not consult with you before changing jobs, you could have explained how all these saddos on the internet need the information a few hours before everyone else

We're on the clock. T -20 mins.

The most anticipated team naming since…last Thursday

@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

The most anticipated team naming since…last Thursday

Sans Aaron, Sam, Sam and Mounga, this will be what Fozzie thinks is our strongest team, wouldn't it?

@hooroo Unless there are injuries we don't know of, or who haven't recovered (ALB, for example).

@stargazer said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@hooroo Unless there are injuries we don't know of, or who haven't recovered (ALB, for example).

True. I forgot about ALB. Is he out for campaign?

@hooroo said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

The most anticipated team naming since…last Thursday

Sans Aaron, Sam, Sam and Mounga, this will be what Fozzie thinks is our strongest team, wouldn't it?

It’s only the Boks…

@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@hooroo said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

The most anticipated team naming since…last Thursday

Sans Aaron, Sam, Sam and Mounga, this will be what Fozzie thinks is our strongest team, wouldn't it?

It’s only the Boks…

I'll eat my hat....

@hooroo can I recommend with Watties tomato sauce

Moody, Taylor, O. Franks, Whitelock, Romano, S. Barrett…

1. Joe Moody (52)
2. Codie Taylor (62)
3. Nepo Laulala (35)
4. Brodie Retallick (87)
5. Scott Barrett (46)
6. Akira Ioane (8)
7. Ardie Savea (54) – captain
8. Luke Jacobson (9)
9. TJ Perenara (73)
10. Beauden Barrett (96)
11. George Bridge (15)
12. David Havili (9)
13. Rieko Ioane (42)
14. Will Jordan (8)
15. Jordie Barrett (30)
16. Samisoni Taukei’aho (6)
17. Karl Tu’inukuafe (22)
18. Ofa Tuungafasi (40)
19. Patrick Tuipulotu (39)
20. Ethan Blackadder (5)
21. Brad Weber (12)
22. Damian McKenzie (35)
23. Quinn Tupaea (3)

Paps and ALB injured still?

They've definitely gone for height on the wings too to defuse those high kicks.

@act-crusader apart from injuries that's a bloody decent team. Can't wait to see how that loose forward trio works together against a bigger Springbok pack. I'm glad they've stayed with the Jordie / Jordan combo because that will only get better with time.

i dont mind it

Media release: https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-named-for-historic-100th-test-against-south-africa/

@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

i dont mind it

I'm underwhelmed a bit but I don't know what I would change with no ALB. Can't argue with forwards though.

Some facts:

Beauden Barrett will be playing his 15th Test against South Africa and Brodie Retallick his 12th. Eight players (Akira Ioane, Luke Jacobson, David Havili, Will Jordan, Samisoni Taukei’aho, Ethan Blackadder, Brad Weber and Quinn Tupaea) will be playing them for the first time.

I like what they’ve done with the front row too. Strong starting 3 and with Ofa and Sami off the bench together, that’s some firepower.

@hooroo definitely

would prefer rioane 11 and ALB 13, but everyone has looked good in their position recently so i dont mind it

@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

i dont mind it

Me neither. Loosies possibly better than if Ardie was at 8 and at least Blackadder is in form.

Would have been nicer to have ALB with RI on the wing but the combo has at least had plenty of time.

As much as Bridge offers little in attack except linking he is a tidy player to tidy up the attempts to gain territory.

Have to say that a year ago a good 23 without ALB, Whitelock, Mounga and Smith would have looked a big stretch. This looks pretty good so hats off to the coaching team for getting things in order. Let's hope they now play well.

Tough on Sevu Reece, but otherwise a strong team.

Is that 4 out 6 frontrow players having Tongan heritage?

@bovidae said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Some facts:

Beauden Barrett will be playing his 15th Test against South Africa and Brodie Retallick his 12th. Eight players (Akira Ioane, Luke Jacobson, David Havili, Will Jordan, Samisoni Taukei’aho, Ethan Blackadder, Brad Weber and Quinn Tupaea) will be playing them for the first time.

Wow! That is quite a stat. I like that.

Good team selection I think,Taking into account injuries etc.
The selection looks like it has been well thought out to combat the Boks usual game plan.

No mention of injuries but we can assume that ALB isn't 100% yet, and likely Papalii isn't either.

@crucial Careful now, that was very close to not hating Foster

@bovidae Think the comment during the week was that they would have to pass their fitness tests on Tuesday to be considered for selection.