All Blacks vs Springboks I

nzzp

@l_n_p said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Referee is English again.

Same two refs for the next two weeks vs Bokke. Clear Bok advantage - they know how they whistle the game 🙂 All Blacks clear underdogs, playing away from home against world champions...

L_n_P

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@l_n_p said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Referee is English again.

Same two refs for the next two weeks vs Bokke. Clear Bok advantage - they know how they whistle the game 🙂 All Blacks clear underdogs, playing away from home against world champions...

:face_with_tears_of_joy: It's quite a turnaround when English refereeing style actually suits the ABs :face_with_tears_of_joy:

Players like Papilli will need to mind their manners in defensive breakdowns, they may not get the half-second where they accidentally-on-purpose slow down the ball post-tackle.

Crucial

@l_n_p said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@l_n_p I liked the article, read it last night. Interesting insights

The Lions really didn't try to play much rugby against the Boks. Australia did, and it showed. Fitness the big issue for the Boks this weekend I suspect

It's going to be very tactical with the AB's wanting the ball in play, the Boks quite the opposite! Probably a fast but conservative game for the first 50 at least to wear out the Boks - a lot of kicking deep for space from the AB playmakers. Down the middle if needed.

I always remember that RWC2015 semi-final where it could easily have gone both ways but logically I can't imagine how the Boks can make such huge adjustments in a week, plus AB coaches can build from watching Australia's victory.

Referee is English again.

The article addresses how the Boks seemingly don't know what to do with the quick ball and don't have players set to take advantage. I think the other aspect is that they simply don't have the time to be boring. They can't slow things down to organise a kick or even look for the space to kick to.
No doubt much of the same analysis is being done by them and I think we may see quick ball trucked up close to the breakdown without too much effort to gain ground so that they can revert to type on the next phase. i.e. take two goes to get set.

ARHS

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@l_n_p said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Referee is English again.

Same two refs for the next two weeks vs Bokke. Clear Bok advantage - they know how they whistle the game 🙂 All Blacks clear underdogs, playing away from home against world champions...

Who is the ref. Hoping it is Luke Pearce for AB sakes. Best ref around currently in my view.

Bovidae

@arhs said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@l_n_p said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Referee is English again.

Same two refs for the next two weeks vs Bokke. Clear Bok advantage - they know how they whistle the game 🙂 All Blacks clear underdogs, playing away from home against world champions...

Who is the ref. Hoping it is Luke Pearce for AB sakes. Best ref around currently in my view.

Pearce this week and Carley next test.

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Jesus there some clueless comments here, not all of them, but these leapt out. More stuff to be up on the changing room walls 😜

This is not the same team that won the World Cup. Let's be very clear on that. They've lost a number of their players who have headed off overseas

SA freely pick from anywhere

And two years ago, they were playing a lot more open and expansive rugby than this team is showing us this year."

Obviously didn't watch the semi versus Wales

The fullback is fine; Willie le Roux is a very good player

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"Willie le Roux is a very good player"

“Willie le Roux was a very good player” he has been average for quite sometime

taniwharugby

@bayimports did he not consult with you before changing jobs, you could have explained how all these saddos on the internet need the information a few hours before everyone else 🙂

Bovidae

We're on the clock. T -20 mins.

ACT Crusader

The most anticipated team naming since…last Thursday

Hooroo

@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

The most anticipated team naming since…last Thursday

Sans Aaron, Sam, Sam and Mounga, this will be what Fozzie thinks is our strongest team, wouldn't it?

Stargazer

@hooroo Unless there are injuries we don't know of, or who haven't recovered (ALB, for example).

ACT Crusader

@hooroo can I recommend with Watties tomato sauce

ACT Crusader

Moody, Taylor, O. Franks, Whitelock, Romano, S. Barrett…

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  1. Joe Moody (52)
  2. Codie Taylor (62)
  3. Nepo Laulala (35)
  4. Brodie Retallick (87)
  5. Scott Barrett (46)
  6. Akira Ioane (8)
  7. Ardie Savea (54) – captain
  8. Luke Jacobson (9)
  9. TJ Perenara (73)
  10. Beauden Barrett (96)
  11. George Bridge (15)
  12. David Havili (9)
  13. Rieko Ioane (42)
  14. Will Jordan (8)
  15. Jordie Barrett (30)
  16. Samisoni Taukei’aho (6)
  17. Karl Tu’inukuafe (22)
  18. Ofa Tuungafasi (40)
  19. Patrick Tuipulotu (39)
  20. Ethan Blackadder (5)
  21. Brad Weber (12)
  22. Damian McKenzie (35)
  23. Quinn Tupaea (3)
Bovidae

They've definitely gone for height on the wings too to defuse those high kicks.

Canes4life

@act-crusader apart from injuries that's a bloody decent team. Can't wait to see how that loose forward trio works together against a bigger Springbok pack. I'm glad they've stayed with the Jordie / Jordan combo because that will only get better with time.

Kiwiwomble

i dont mind it

Bovidae

Some facts:

Beauden Barrett will be playing his 15th Test against South Africa and Brodie Retallick his 12th. Eight players (Akira Ioane, Luke Jacobson, David Havili, Will Jordan, Samisoni Taukei’aho, Ethan Blackadder, Brad Weber and Quinn Tupaea) will be playing them for the first time.

ACT Crusader

I like what they’ve done with the front row too. Strong starting 3 and with Ofa and Sami off the bench together, that’s some firepower.

Kiwiwomble

@hooroo definitely

would prefer rioane 11 and ALB 13, but everyone has looked good in their position recently so i dont mind it

Crucial

@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

i dont mind it

Me neither. Loosies possibly better than if Ardie was at 8 and at least Blackadder is in form.

Would have been nicer to have ALB with RI on the wing but the combo has at least had plenty of time.

As much as Bridge offers little in attack except linking he is a tidy player to tidy up the attempts to gain territory.

Have to say that a year ago a good 23 without ALB, Whitelock, Mounga and Smith would have looked a big stretch. This looks pretty good so hats off to the coaching team for getting things in order. Let's hope they now play well.

Tim

Tough on Sevu Reece, but otherwise a strong team.

Is that 4 out 6 frontrow players having Tongan heritage?

Hooroo

@bovidae said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Some facts:

Beauden Barrett will be playing his 15th Test against South Africa and Brodie Retallick his 12th. Eight players (Akira Ioane, Luke Jacobson, David Havili, Will Jordan, Samisoni Taukei’aho, Ethan Blackadder, Brad Weber and Quinn Tupaea) will be playing them for the first time.

Wow! That is quite a stat. I like that.

Chris

Good team selection I think,Taking into account injuries etc.
The selection looks like it has been well thought out to combat the Boks usual game plan.

Bovidae

No mention of injuries but we can assume that ALB isn't 100% yet, and likely Papalii isn't either.

JC

@crucial Careful now, that was very close to not hating Foster

Tim

@bovidae Think the comment during the week was that they would have to pass their fitness tests on Tuesday to be considered for selection.

mariner4life

well if it goes tits up you can't blame the selectors. That's the clear best 23 available.