All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test

chimoaus

I have to admit I have no fucken idea who the new sponsors are which makes me feel old or just out of touch.

1kiwi

Also word is that George Bower, Quinn Tupaea, & Will Jordan all currently have symptoms...

chimoaus

@1kiwi said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

Also word is that George Bower, Quinn Tupaea, & Will Jordan all currently have symptoms...

More and more likely BB, RTS, RI backline if that is the case.

Tim

@chimoaus And maybe Perofeta at fullback if Jordie Barrett is injured.

Crucial

@1kiwi said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

Also word is that George Bower, Quinn Tupaea, & Will Jordan all currently have symptoms...

Would be funny if DeGroot got called up as cover then outscrummed the opposition.

Wouldn't be funny if Bridge was called up as cover and came on to drop a high kick or fail to beat a man.

Tim

@Duluth If all the mentioned players are out then you might see something like this:

1 Ross
2 Taylor
3 Laulala
4 Retallick
5 Whitelock
6 Ioane
7 Cane
8 Savea
9 Christie
10 Barrett
11 Clarke
12 RTS
13 Ioane
14 Reece
15 Perofeta

16 Taukei'aho
17 Tu'inukuafe
18 Tu'ungafasi
19 Barrett
20 Papalii
21 Fakatava
22 Mo'unga
23 Fainga'anuku

taniwharugby

@Tim certainly adds another element to the match!

You'd think one of Tupaea, Goodhue or Havili were all slated to start at 12, add Jordan and Bower, thats 3 probable starters out.

chimoaus

@Tim Looks about right to me, I wonder if they will try and put BB at 15 and Mounga at 10 if they are worried about Perofeta.

ARHS

@chimoaus I would if so many experienced guys are out. Perofeta still on bench though.

@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

I have to admit I have no fucken idea who the new sponsors are which makes me feel old or just out of touch.

Altrad is the main sponsor, same as French Rugby Team. EDIT: Building Co, whoopsCartoon magnate, of all things. Secondary sponsor is INEOS UK big chem co, also sponsor TdF team and Brit America's Cup team for ex.

Kiwiwomble

@Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

I have to admit I have no fucken idea who the new sponsors are which makes me feel old or just out of touch.

Altrad is the main sponsor, same as French Rugby Team. Cartoon magnate, of all things. Secondary sponsor is INEOS UK big chem co, also sponsor TfF team and Brit America's Cup team for ex.

?....arent they largely a building materials company ?

@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

@Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

I have to admit I have no fucken idea who the new sponsors are which makes me feel old or just out of touch.

Altrad is the main sponsor, same as French Rugby Team. Cartoon magnate, of all things. Secondary sponsor is INEOS UK big chem co, also sponsor TfF team and Brit America's Cup team for ex.

?....arent they largely a building materials company ?

Yeah you're right mixing it up with Toulon Pres

ACT Crusader

@Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

Ennor joining the team is the most alarming bit of news.

For Ireland that is…

Would love to see Jordie given a shot at 2nd 5 at some stage.

I suspect QT and Ioane with either LF or RTS on the bench. Although if Reece is not starting (he should be), he should be on the bench. Jordie covering midfield.

ACT Crusader

@Nevorian bro, your inner nervous nelly is getting early to the party aye….

Keep the faith and all that. We still have a very good core that look unaffected (at this stage). My only concern is @Tim prospective team. Too many Blues 😉

taniwharugby

Both Tupaea and Bower have been in images on AB social media during training earlier today.

number9

Ennor has a shit season and he gets called into the team???? What the fuck Foster??? Nankivell was fantastic and Ennor gets the call. Just confirms that Foster is a moron.

Torian

@number9 I'm no Ennor fan myself especially after his outing vs Italy, with that said Nankivell has apparently been sick lately hence why he's not even in the 23 for the Maori

@number9 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

Ennor has a shit season and he gets called into the team???? What the fuck Foster??? Nankivell was fantastic and Ennor gets the call. Just confirms that Foster is a moron.

He can't have been called in because he is familiar with the game plan, cos apparently foster had a new one to deal with aggressive rush defences. Something which especially effects our midfield....

JK

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

Crucial

@JK said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

Genuine question here. A couple of contentious decisions aside (well Karl T really) what is the squad selection issue? Apart from keyboard selectors having their own favourite players I thought the squad was pretty much what most people would pick.

nzzp

@Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

@JK said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

Genuine question here. A couple of contentious decisions aside (well Karl T really) what is the squad selection issue? Apart from keyboard selectors having their own favourite players I thought the squad was pretty much what most people would pick.

Was pretty good. I just have little trust because of the historic selections and performance.

Crucial

@nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

@Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

@JK said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

Genuine question here. A couple of contentious decisions aside (well Karl T really) what is the squad selection issue? Apart from keyboard selectors having their own favourite players I thought the squad was pretty much what most people would pick.

Was pretty good. I just have little trust because of the historic selections and performance.

A discussion for another thread but we have really veered into 'say it enough times and it's true' territory with the Foster period. It taints all genuine discussion and criticism.
If I was the lone selector my squad wouldn't be much different and I can assure you that it would be wrong.

Crucial

So far there's no new news around player availability which is hopefully a good thing.

antipodean

@Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

@JK said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

Genuine question here. A couple of contentious decisions aside (well Karl T really) what is the squad selection issue? Apart from keyboard selectors having their own favourite players I thought the squad was pretty much what most people would pick.

The larger All Black squad, or the best 23/ XV for the game?

nzzp

@Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

@nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

@Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

@JK said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

Genuine question here. A couple of contentious decisions aside (well Karl T really) what is the squad selection issue? Apart from keyboard selectors having their own favourite players I thought the squad was pretty much what most people would pick.

Was pretty good. I just have little trust because of the historic selections and performance.

A discussion for another thread but we have really veered into 'say it enough times and it's true' territory with the Foster period. It taints all genuine discussion and criticism.
If I was the lone selector my squad wouldn't be much different and I can assure you that it would be wrong.

I carry my grudge back to his involvement with Hansen and some of the selections back then. Rational is not the answer @Crucial , embrace the bitterness

Kiwiwomble

@antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

@Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

@JK said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

Genuine question here. A couple of contentious decisions aside (well Karl T really) what is the squad selection issue? Apart from keyboard selectors having their own favourite players I thought the squad was pretty much what most people would pick.

The larger All Black squad, or the best 23/ XV for the game?

yeah, weren't too many surprises for e in the squad....im just concerned week to week we're going to see all the same names and the new blood wont get a proper run

Crucial

@antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

@Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

@JK said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

Genuine question here. A couple of contentious decisions aside (well Karl T really) what is the squad selection issue? Apart from keyboard selectors having their own favourite players I thought the squad was pretty much what most people would pick.

The larger All Black squad, or the best 23/ XV for the game?

The comment I responded to said squad selection.

Frank

@Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

@antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

@Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

@JK said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

Bit of a no-win situation for Foz.

Either ABs lose or they win without requiring him.

Or they loose without him and we get the loss blamed on covid etc rather than his shit coaching and squad selection

Genuine question here. A couple of contentious decisions aside (well Karl T really) what is the squad selection issue? Apart from keyboard selectors having their own favourite players I thought the squad was pretty much what most people would pick.

The larger All Black squad, or the best 23/ XV for the game?

The comment I responded to said squad selection.

Selection has been okay..........the ways the ABs have played, including the first ever loss to Argentina, not so much.

People have fuck all confidence in him because he has won fuck all has a head coach and he was preferred to a clearly more talented coach (Razor).

If the ABs start playing well, I'll change my mind.

Chris B.

Will Jordan gone with covid!!!

Now it's getting serious!

Chris B.

On the plus side - the stuff article says Jordan was one of only three ABs who hadn't already had covid - and they're taking extra precautions with the other two - so hopefully we're not going to lose a whole wave of players.

KiwiMurph

I'd much rather see Leicester on the bench than Ennor.

Bovidae

The players usually share a room too, so hopefully those already confirmed as positive are/were roommates.

mariner4life

if R Ioane goes down we are fucked. Proper fucked.

Unless there is this amazing new attacking pattern to unlock the ability of the lessor skilled backline members.