All Blacks XV 2022

@cgrant This is the original media release about the All Blacks XV:

"The high-performance benefits of this team will be significant. It will help to develop the next group of players, many of whom will likely become our future All Blacks, as well as give further opportunities for our coaches and other team personnel.

"We also believe that this will aid with retention of players and personnel in New Zealand, which will benefit our Super Rugby clubs and provincial unions as well as the All Blacks," Cass said.

Cass said that, while the concept of a second-tier national team was not new in New Zealand, the intention was for the All Blacks XV to become a regular national team playing second-tier overseas opposition.

"Teams such as the New Zealand A team and the Junior All Blacks who last played in the Pacific Nations Cup in 2009 have filled a similar high-performance role and have done so effectively, with a very high percentage going on to play for the All Blacks.

"These teams have been sporadic in the past, and we believe that there is great value in making this a regular national team going forward.

"Beyond its high-performance role, this new team also has real commercial value for NZR. It will play offshore in growing rugby markets that are of strategic and commercial importance, allowing us to showcase and grow New Zealand's brand of rugby in many more parts of the world," Cass said.

The problem with Gatland is his ceiling. If this is a squad to get potential ABs game time Gatland is not the guy. Yes, the next coming of David Howell who never was going to be an AB. I would take Plummer before Gatland and as Crucial mentioned put Perofeta in their for game time. I am not in the know about other potential talent out their.

For the benefit of NZ rugby, Perofeta has to go as the primary 10. We need to find out if he is up to the job.

@Crazy-Horse Depth at No 10 is what we really recquire at present. Wonder if there is any correlation between how our depth was when the Juniour All Blacks last played.

Zarn Sullivan.

Numia and Aumua are not doing their chances any harm with their recent form. Likewise TJ and Morgan. And Delany although I don't think he will make it. Like Morgan.

Lakai is maybe a bit young still

@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks XV:

For the benefit of NZ rugby, Perofeta has to go as the primary 10. We need to find out if he is up to the job.

Agree. McKenzie thankfully is showing what he's capable of for Waikato. But Perofeta needs time at first if he is to be considered a serious replacement option for the top side

@Winger said in All Blacks XV:

Numia and Aumua are not doing their chances any harm with their recent form.

Aumua might be playing his into the full EOYT squad

Definitely a better option than Taylor

@Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

@Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

@Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

Agree. But surely the Wellington coaches can stop him doing this. He doesn't seem to be a dirty player, just careless

@Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

@Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

And can bloody learn to throw. Get sick of seeing Welly get a penalty and kick to touch, only to lose the lineout.

@Bones said in All Blacks XV:

@Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

@Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

And can bloody learn to throw. Get sick of seeing Welly get a penalty and kick to touch, only to lose the lineout.

His throwing has been good recently.

@Winger said in All Blacks XV:

@Bones said in All Blacks XV:

@Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

@Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

And can bloody learn to throw. Get sick of seeing Welly get a penalty and kick to touch, only to lose the lineout.

His throwing has been good recently.

I think I turned the rugby on for the shield match and it was a lineout immediately. We lost it.

@Bones said in All Blacks XV:

@Winger said in All Blacks XV:

@Bones said in All Blacks XV:

@Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

@Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

And can bloody learn to throw. Get sick of seeing Welly get a penalty and kick to touch, only to lose the lineout.

His throwing has been good recently.

I think I turned the rugby on for the shield match and it was a lineout immediately. We lost it.

So it's nothing to do with Aumua, it's you

@Machpants said in All Blacks XV:

@Bones said in All Blacks XV:

@Winger said in All Blacks XV:

@Bones said in All Blacks XV:

@Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

@Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

And can bloody learn to throw. Get sick of seeing Welly get a penalty and kick to touch, only to lose the lineout.

His throwing has been good recently.

I think I turned the rugby on for the shield match and it was a lineout immediately. We lost it.

So it's nothing to do with Aumua, it's you

I will be watching the ABs.

@Bones said in All Blacks XV:

@Machpants said in All Blacks XV:

@Bones said in All Blacks XV:

@Winger said in All Blacks XV:

@Bones said in All Blacks XV:

@Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

@Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

And can bloody learn to throw. Get sick of seeing Welly get a penalty and kick to touch, only to lose the lineout.

His throwing has been good recently.

I think I turned the rugby on for the shield match and it was a lineout immediately. We lost it.

So it's nothing to do with Aumua, it's you

I will be watching the ABs.

Can you miss the next game, please? I'm going to that one

@Machpants said in All Blacks XV:

@Bones said in All Blacks XV:

@Machpants said in All Blacks XV:

@Bones said in All Blacks XV:

@Winger said in All Blacks XV:

@Bones said in All Blacks XV:

@Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

@Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

And can bloody learn to throw. Get sick of seeing Welly get a penalty and kick to touch, only to lose the lineout.

His throwing has been good recently.

I think I turned the rugby on for the shield match and it was a lineout immediately. We lost it.

So it's nothing to do with Aumua, it's you

I will be watching the ABs.

Can you miss the next game, please? I'm going to that one

Aumua won't be.

@Bones said in All Blacks XV:

@Winger said in All Blacks XV:

@Bones said in All Blacks XV:

@Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

@Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

And can bloody learn to throw. Get sick of seeing Welly get a penalty and kick to touch, only to lose the lineout.

His throwing has been good recently.

I think I turned the rugby on for the shield match and it was a lineout immediately. We lost it.

I see his lineout throwing as good now. Not 100% but close enough. A few are lost but overall good enough for me now.

@Bones said in All Blacks XV:

@Machpants said in All Blacks XV:

@Bones said in All Blacks XV:

@Machpants said in All Blacks XV:

@Bones said in All Blacks XV:

@Winger said in All Blacks XV:

@Bones said in All Blacks XV:

@Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

@Duluth If he doesn't keep planting his shoulder in opponent's faces.

And can bloody learn to throw. Get sick of seeing Welly get a penalty and kick to touch, only to lose the lineout.

His throwing has been good recently.

I think I turned the rugby on for the shield match and it was a lineout immediately. We lost it.

So it's nothing to do with Aumua, it's you

I will be watching the ABs.

Can you miss the next game, please? I'm going to that one

Aumua won't be.

it depends how far he can throw...this is not a serious comment but I do hope his throwing has improved...at least past the Taylor standard...

@nostrildamus it's improved, but he's not a patch on ST/DC in terms of actually being reliable. While he might get most throws, I'd still be anxious watching him throw.

What about Levi Aumua ? He is on fire in the NPC. Or with the All Blacks ? His combo with Jordie Barrett would be fun to watch.

Yeh, even though the ABs have been a bit shit for much of this year, they win another Rugby Championship.

I'd like to see a guy like nikora broughton and ngatoa ah kuoi have w run in this team

Keeping my eyepatch on. Fabian Holland showing all his skills this afternoon.

@cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

What about Levi Aumua ? He is on fire in the NPC. Or with the All Blacks ? His combo with Jordie Barrett would be fun to watch.

Someone reckoned a few weeks ago that the ABs were looking at him.

He's going great guns. Lost some weight I think and looking fitter and faster.

Test rugby is a massive step up from NPC though, so this AB XV would make more sense.

@Chris-B He plays for Moana Pasifika, is he still eligible for All Black selection?

@Chris-B said in All Blacks XV:

Someone reckoned a few weeks ago that the ABs were looking at him.

A TSFer was quoting a commentator a few weeks ago. I think they mis heard. Pretty sure the commentator was talking about Nankivell

@SBW1 born in NZ...playing NPC and super rugby in NZ...I'm not saying pick him, but there is zero reason not to if he is good enough

@Duluth That actually makes more sense in a way - though I reckon Alex is solid at best - not big, not fast.

@Duluth said in All Blacks XV:

@Chris-B said in All Blacks XV:

Someone reckoned a few weeks ago that the ABs were looking at him.

A TSFer was quoting a commentator a few weeks ago. I think they mis heard. Pretty sure the commentator was talking about Nankivell

That was me. Nankivell would make more sense. Might have to watch the replay to see if I misheard.

@Crazy-Horse

If it’s the same comment, the commentator was talking about both centres. Then said the ABs were interested in ‘him’ and that he narrowly missed out on the first squad of the year. It was confusing but I think the ‘him’ was Nankivell

@Duluth said in All Blacks XV:

@Crazy-Horse

If it’s the same comment, the commentator was talking about both centres. Then said the ABs were interested in ‘him’ and that he narrowly missed out on the first squad of the year. It was confusing but I think the ‘him’ was Nankivell

If I can work out what game it was I will watch the replay. It should still be on Stan.

Edit: It was Ta$man V Taranaki

@Duluth Nankivell was more impressive in super than Ennor imo.

ALB is due back, so hard to see a fresh midfielder making the EOYT.

Nankivell and Aumua should both be in contention for this XV. Big Levi has been a revelation in this NPC.

Alex is a glue guy. You could slot him in the ABs and he'd be Ryan Crotty-lite. Wouldn't let you down, but wouldn't offer enough threat IMO.

NZR haven't even officially named the coaching staff yet have they?

I hope they decide to select a younger player in all positions to develop along with more experienced players. It would be a missed opportunity otherwise.

@Bovidae great idea would love to see young Sean Withy backing up Billy Harmon on tour

@taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

@SBW1 born in NZ...playing NPC and super rugby in NZ...I'm not saying pick him, but there is zero reason not to if he is good enough

Nope there is an agreement that NZR won't pick NZ qual player's from MP. He'd have to leave for another franchise, MP s effectively not an NZ SR franchise, it just plays home games in NZ

@Machpants Has he signed for MP for 2023 and is he a serious candidate for All Black XV selection?

@SBW1 said in All Blacks XV:

@Machpants Has he signed for MP for 2023 and is he a serious candidate for All Black XV selection?

He’s contracted to MP in 2023

So is the AB XV officially named as our second team? Be a bit disingenuous but if not, Aumua could still be selected.