All Blacks XV 2022

@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks XV:

Wilson says "Look at this guy. Super rugby we saw he's some sort of player and there were whispers at the back end of Super Rugby that maybe he was in the All Black picture."

I stand by my interpretation that Wilson was talking about Aumua when it came to AB whispers. But I agree it's ambiguous so I am not insisting I am right.

Sounds like you might be right. In which case, it will be interesting to see what evolves with Levi.

Interestingly, he's eligible for all of NZ, Fiji and Samoa (according to Wiki).

I'd like to see how he would go for the AB XV -- he's something different to anything else we have at present.

@Winger said in All Blacks XV:

@nostrildamus he's playing 2nd 5 for Wellington. And has also for the canes

ta. Just recall PUJ was 13 for ABs (?) and someone said he was better there than 12. I don't recall who said that though.

So when is this and the EOYT squads named?

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks XV:

@Winger said in All Blacks XV:

@nostrildamus he's playing 2nd 5 for Wellington. And has also for the canes

ta. Just recall PUJ was 13 for ABs (?) and someone said he was better there than 12. I don't recall who said that though.

I said it. He’s better in the 13 jersey and he’s played a lot more rugby there than at 12. He’s playing 12 for Wellington because he suits it more than Proctor. Now that Higgins played well at 12 on Saturday hopefully we get to see PUJ shift back out to his more favoured 13 jersey.

The positive with PUJ is that he can slot into both positions quite comfortably. Not every player can do that.

@Chris-B Very surprised he is not being looked at by the Crusaders given that he is playing for Ta$man. He is quite a unit.

@taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

So when is this and the EOYT squads named?

In about 2 weeks according to an article on allblacks.com. There is a camp in Nelson before the ABs leave for Japan.

@TheMojoman said in All Blacks XV:

@taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

@gt12 unless Goodhue can find a yard or 2 of pace, which is unlikely given his injury history, I think International rugby may have passed him by, which is a shame as he has a good rugby brain..

Unfortunately for Goodhue, injury has wrecked his career. Now with Jordie a legit option at 12 he falls further behind. 12 is probably the most log-jammed of positions - Jordie, Havili, ALB, RTS, Tupaea, Goodhue, PUJ, TUJ, Nankivell in that order if all are injury free.

Goodhue seems to have gone down the size route, weighing in at 105KG at the moment. I don't think we'll see him getting any quicker or more agile given his knee injuries.

Pfffft, Frans Steyn got fatter and fatter and still got picked for the Boks

@ARHS said in All Blacks XV:

Procter

Is there another Procter running around NZ rugby that I haven't seen? Because that guy Billy is basic even at NPC.

Just further on Procter. I was saying pretty much the same thing about his brother at the same stage of his career and he turned out to be excellent, then buggered off, so give it 3 or so years I guess...

@Bones said in All Blacks XV:

Just further on Procter. I was saying pretty much the same thing about his brother at the same stage of his career and he turned out to be excellent, then buggered off, so give it 3 or so years I guess...

Like his brother he offered little on attack. Good defender though. Both were / are good defenders

@Winger his brother eventually turned into basically a Tamati Ellison clone. It took a long time though.

This tour could be great for providing game time for fringe ABs like RTS, Perofeta, Ross, Jacobson, Fakatava, and ALB.

Foster did make this comment:

Because of their schedule and the need for them (All Blacks XV) to develop as a team, there would be minimal crossover between the sides.

Some of the players @Tim mentions would be better to play regularly for this team rather than only play once for the ABs against Japan.

@Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

Foster did make this comment:

Because of their schedule and the need for them (All Blacks XV) to develop as a team, there would be minimal crossover between the sides.

Some of the players @Tim mentions would be better to play regularly for this team rather than only play once for the ABs against Japan.

I very much agree with that, put them in as leaders of the XV for game time. It's a risk, with injury, for the ABs, but better for player development. Not like this year another loss means anything major

I don't see it happening sadly, I think the best will go with the ABs, rest with XV

So just Canada and BaaBaas locked in so far?

I'm excited to see the talent available get an opportunity. A great reward for those performers from the NPC but also genuine opportunity for those on the bubble of test selection.

I have no idea what the other 2 opponents will be made up from. Surely the Euro clubs would be extremely averse to releasing players at this time of year. A French Barbarian selection would be fantastic though if they could make it happen.

@Frye said in All Blacks XV:

So just Canada and BaaBaas locked in so far?

Ireland have announced this

Ireland ‘A’ will take on an All Blacks XV at the RDS in Dublin on the evening of Friday, November 4.

I understand there is supposed to be one more fixture too.

@Tim said in All Blacks XV:

This tour could be great for providing game time for fringe ABs like RTS, Perofeta, Ross, Jacobson, Fakatava, and ALB.

I see what you did there

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks XV:

@Tim said in All Blacks XV:

This tour could be great for providing game time for fringe ABs like RTS, Perofeta, Ross, Jacobson, Fakatava, and ALB.

I see what you did there

He did use a comma, so perhaps he meant all of the others were fringe and ALB was not?

@canefan either way it doesn’t matter. ALB is a 50+ test AB and if he can run and play then he should be with the ABs. Other than injury he has been a mainstay in the 23 since 2016.

If R Ioane was coming back from injury I doubt they would be putting him in an B team for a run or to get match fit.

I’d put Fainga’anuku in the AB XV side and ALB straight back into the ABs.

The Japan AB test seems ideal to get ALB some minutes.

Without being nasty about it. he is short of a gallop.

@SBW1 said in All Blacks XV:

@Chris-B Very surprised he is not being looked at by the Crusaders given that he is playing for Ta$man. He is quite a unit.

Seems to have improved significantly over the past year to 18 months. He may well already be locked in with MP - if they're smart he will be.

@Chris-B said in All Blacks XV:

@SBW1 said in All Blacks XV:

@Chris-B Very surprised he is not being looked at by the Crusaders given that he is playing for Ta$man. He is quite a unit.

Seems to have improved significantly over the past year to 18 months. He may well already be locked in with MP - if they're smart he will be.

Yeah resigned with MP for 2023.

Like to see Poihipi get run with XV. Lovely steps for that try vs Auks.

@Chris https://moanapasifika.co.nz/moana-pasifika-retain-strong-talent-for-2023-super-rugby-pacific-season/#:~:text=Moana Pasifika retain strong talent for 2023 Super,Taefu%2C for the 2023 Super Rugby Pacific Season.

Says he is signed for next year and was a vital part of their squad with the most amount of MVPs.

Clayton McMillan and Scott Hansen also announced as Assistant Coaches of the team.

Also, the game against Ireland A is now listed, but not the game in Canada.

@Bovidae that feels wrong - just going all that way for 2 matches - when you want to test players out. I really do hope a third match is confirmed

@ARHS said in All Blacks XV:

@Bovidae that feels wrong - just going all that way for 2 matches - when you want to test players out. I really do hope a third match is confirmed

Agree. In the original media release the intention was to play 4 games. I hope there is more than the two matches. If not, a smaller squad will be taken.

The Barbarians game isn't at Twickenham. I thought they always played at Twickenham, when playing at home?

@Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

The Barbarians game isn't at Twickenham. I thought they always played at Twickenham, when playing at home?

Maybe they got a better deal elsewhere?

They've been known to play in Cardiff...

Congrats to Rangi.

Looking forward to seeing what sort of squad he will work with.

It may have been covered in the thread but who are the selectors for this squad? Is it just the AB selectors with input from Rangi?

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks XV:

Congrats to Rangi.

Looking forward to seeing what sort of squad he will work with.

It may have been covered in the thread but who are the selectors for this squad? Is it just the AB selectors with input from Rangi?

From the article below:

All Blacks coach Ian Foster and his fellow selectors will name the All Blacks XV squad, although he expects there to be minimal crossover of players between his and MacDonald's teams.

Given that many of Fosters selections this year were hardly used or were discarded quickly I wonder the value in him picking the “bubbling under” squad.
PGS, RTS, Perofeta, Jacobsen, Vaa’i, Fakatava, LF, that lump from Canterbury….

LOL. How many shots to the head did he take?

@Tim Mark Telea will obviously be the Right winger

@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks XV:

@Tim Mark Telea will obviously be the Right winger

Is Stevenson not still on fire?

@Bones Fullback

@Tim said in All Blacks XV:

@Bones Fullback

How are the likes of Moorby, Gilbert, Sullivan going?