All Blacks XV 2022

ACT Crusader

@canefan either way it doesn’t matter. ALB is a 50+ test AB and if he can run and play then he should be with the ABs. Other than injury he has been a mainstay in the 23 since 2016.

If R Ioane was coming back from injury I doubt they would be putting him in an B team for a run or to get match fit.

I’d put Fainga’anuku in the AB XV side and ALB straight back into the ABs.

KiwiMurph

The Japan AB test seems ideal to get ALB some minutes.

antipodean

Without being nasty about it. he is short of a gallop.

Chris B.

@SBW1 said in All Blacks XV:

@Chris-B Very surprised he is not being looked at by the Crusaders given that he is playing for Ta$man. He is quite a unit.

Seems to have improved significantly over the past year to 18 months. He may well already be locked in with MP - if they're smart he will be.

Chris

@Chris-B said in All Blacks XV:

@SBW1 said in All Blacks XV:

@Chris-B Very surprised he is not being looked at by the Crusaders given that he is playing for Ta$man. He is quite a unit.

Seems to have improved significantly over the past year to 18 months. He may well already be locked in with MP - if they're smart he will be.

Yeah resigned with MP for 2023.

Like to see Poihipi get run with XV. Lovely steps for that try vs Auks.

ARHS

@Bovidae that feels wrong - just going all that way for 2 matches - when you want to test players out. I really do hope a third match is confirmed

Bovidae

@ARHS said in All Blacks XV:

@Bovidae that feels wrong - just going all that way for 2 matches - when you want to test players out. I really do hope a third match is confirmed

Agree. In the original media release the intention was to play 4 games. I hope there is more than the two matches. If not, a smaller squad will be taken.

Stargazer

The Barbarians game isn't at Twickenham. I thought they always played at Twickenham, when playing at home? 🤔

booboo

@Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

The Barbarians game isn't at Twickenham. I thought they always played at Twickenham, when playing at home? 🤔

Maybe they got a better deal elsewhere?

They've been known to play in Cardiff...

ACT Crusader

Congrats to Rangi.

Looking forward to seeing what sort of squad he will work with.

It may have been covered in the thread but who are the selectors for this squad? Is it just the AB selectors with input from Rangi?

Stargazer

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks XV:

Congrats to Rangi.

Looking forward to seeing what sort of squad he will work with.

It may have been covered in the thread but who are the selectors for this squad? Is it just the AB selectors with input from Rangi?


From the article below:

All Blacks coach Ian Foster and his fellow selectors will name the All Blacks XV squad, although he expects there to be minimal crossover of players between his and MacDonald's teams.

Crucial

Given that many of Fosters selections this year were hardly used or were discarded quickly I wonder the value in him picking the “bubbling under” squad.
PGS, RTS, Perofeta, Jacobsen, Vaa’i, Fakatava, LF, that lump from Canterbury….

Torian

@Tim Mark Telea will obviously be the Right winger

Bones

@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks XV:

@Tim Mark Telea will obviously be the Right winger

Is Stevenson not still on fire?

Tim

@Bones Sullivan is injured. Moorby is just coming back from injury. Sam Gilbert isn't playing, IIRC, but would be a fucking million miles from any NZ rep team.

Bones

@Tim said in All Blacks XV:

would be a fucking million miles from any NZ rep team

I hear they make pretty tasty hats these days.

Tim

@Bones How is the All Black career of Rob Thompson going these days?

Bones

@Tim said in All Blacks XV:

@Bones How is the All Black career of Rob Thompson going these days?

About as good as Yourself or Someone Like You.

Winger

@Tim

Maybe his experience would be useful on this tour. He's playing well too esp when Wellington took the shield. He was a regular starter for the Canes and also for Wellington so coaches must think he still has something to offer

Rapido

@Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

The Barbarians game isn't at Twickenham. I thought they always played at Twickenham, when playing at home? 🤔

Will the Qatar world cup be on at that same time? Probably. Looks like unused football stadium could provide some economic competition? Or more likely, now I think about it, England , Wales etc. are already playing home games that weekend.

Bovidae

A back three of Stevenson, Telea and Lam would be bloody good to watch.

@Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

A back three of Stevenson, Telea and Lam would be bloody good to watch.

With Levi Aumua and Thomas Umaga-Jensen in midfield.

What are people's thought on Emoni Narawa? He's looked dynamite from highlights, what's the rest of his game like?

Canes4life

If I had to pick a team based on the fact McKenzie will most likely come into the All Blacks for Perofeta, I would go for something like this as a 23. (Assuming everyone is fit by the time the squad heads away).

  1. Alex Hodgman (Auckland)
  2. Asafo Aumua (Wellington)
  3. Angus Ta’avao (Auckland)
  4. Justin Sangster (Bay of Plenty)
  5. Zach Gallagher (Canterbury)
  6. Luke Jacobsen (Waikato)
  7. Tom Christie (Canterbury)
  8. Devan Flanders (Hawkes Bay)
  9. Brad Weber (Hawkes Bay)
  10. Stephen Perofeta (Taranaki)
  11. AJ Lam (Auckland)
  12. Thomas Umaga-Jensen (Otago)
  13. Peter Umaga-Jensen (Wellington)
  14. Mark Telea (North Harbour)
  15. Josh Moorby (Northland)
  16. Kurt Eklund (Bay of Plenty)
  17. Tamaiti Williams (Canterbury)
  18. Tevita Mafileo (Bay of Plenty)
  19. Fabian Holland (Otago)
  20. Peter Lakai (Wellington)
  21. Cam Roigard (Counties Manukau)
  22. Aiden Morgan (Wellington)
  23. Bailyn Sullivan (Waikato)

Id add emoni narawa and nikora broughton to that team

SouthernMann

@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:

If I had to pick a team based on the fact McKenzie will most likely come into the All Blacks for Perofeta, I would go for something like this as a 23. (Assuming everyone is fit by the time the squad heads away).

  1. Alex Hodgman (Auckland)
  2. Asafo Aumua (Wellington)
  3. Angus Ta’avao (Auckland)
  4. Justin Sangster (Bay of Plenty)
  5. Zach Gallagher (Canterbury)
  6. Luke Jacobsen (Waikato)
  7. Tom Christie (Canterbury)
  8. Devan Flanders (Hawkes Bay)
  9. Brad Weber (Hawkes Bay)
  10. Stephen Perofeta (Taranaki)
  11. AJ Lam (Auckland)
  12. Thomas Umaga-Jensen (Otago)
  13. Peter Umaga-Jensen (Wellington)
  14. Mark Telea (North Harbour)
  15. Josh Moorby (Northland)
  16. Kurt Eklund (Bay of Plenty)
  17. Tamaiti Williams (Canterbury)
  18. Tevita Mafileo (Bay of Plenty)
  19. Fabian Holland (Otago)
  20. Peter Lakai (Wellington)
  21. Cam Roigard (Counties Manukau)
  22. Aiden Morgan (Wellington)
  23. Bailyn Sullivan (Waikato)

Josh Dickson will be next cab off the ranks for the locks, as he spent about a montn as injury cover. I'd expect, as others have mentioned dirt trackers like Aidan Ross, Fakatava, RTS, Sotutu, Sowakula, Fainga'anuku and Ennor should be locks for this squad/game day 23. While a lot of us would really like this team to be packed full of our young talent. There are quite a few guys with a cap here and there who will contiue in the system through this squad. Or at least the 23.

Canes4life

@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:

@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:

If I had to pick a team based on the fact McKenzie will most likely come into the All Blacks for Perofeta, I would go for something like this as a 23. (Assuming everyone is fit by the time the squad heads away).

  1. Alex Hodgman (Auckland)
  2. Asafo Aumua (Wellington)
  3. Angus Ta’avao (Auckland)
  4. Justin Sangster (Bay of Plenty)
  5. Zach Gallagher (Canterbury)
  6. Luke Jacobsen (Waikato)
  7. Tom Christie (Canterbury)
  8. Devan Flanders (Hawkes Bay)
  9. Brad Weber (Hawkes Bay)
  10. Stephen Perofeta (Taranaki)
  11. AJ Lam (Auckland)
  12. Thomas Umaga-Jensen (Otago)
  13. Peter Umaga-Jensen (Wellington)
  14. Mark Telea (North Harbour)
  15. Josh Moorby (Northland)
  16. Kurt Eklund (Bay of Plenty)
  17. Tamaiti Williams (Canterbury)
  18. Tevita Mafileo (Bay of Plenty)
  19. Fabian Holland (Otago)
  20. Peter Lakai (Wellington)
  21. Cam Roigard (Counties Manukau)
  22. Aiden Morgan (Wellington)
  23. Bailyn Sullivan (Waikato)

Josh Dickson will be next cab off the ranks for the locks, as he spent about a montn as injury cover. I'd expect, as others have mentioned dirt trackers like Aidan Ross, Fakatava, RTS, Sotutu, Sowakula, Fainga'anuku and Ennor should be locks for this squad/game day 23. While a lot of us would really like this team to be packed full of our young talent. There are quite a few guys with a cap here and there who will contiue in the system through this squad. Or at least the 23.

Oh yes, forgot about Dickson. It really depends who gets picked in the AB tour squad. I’d expect most of the guys you’ve mentioned above will be in the main squad wouldn’t they? which is why I haven’t included them.

SouthernMann

@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:

@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:

@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:

If I had to pick a team based on the fact McKenzie will most likely come into the All Blacks for Perofeta, I would go for something like this as a 23. (Assuming everyone is fit by the time the squad heads away).

  1. Alex Hodgman (Auckland)
  2. Asafo Aumua (Wellington)
  3. Angus Ta’avao (Auckland)
  4. Justin Sangster (Bay of Plenty)
  5. Zach Gallagher (Canterbury)
  6. Luke Jacobsen (Waikato)
  7. Tom Christie (Canterbury)
  8. Devan Flanders (Hawkes Bay)
  9. Brad Weber (Hawkes Bay)
  10. Stephen Perofeta (Taranaki)
  11. AJ Lam (Auckland)
  12. Thomas Umaga-Jensen (Otago)
  13. Peter Umaga-Jensen (Wellington)
  14. Mark Telea (North Harbour)
  15. Josh Moorby (Northland)
  16. Kurt Eklund (Bay of Plenty)
  17. Tamaiti Williams (Canterbury)
  18. Tevita Mafileo (Bay of Plenty)
  19. Fabian Holland (Otago)
  20. Peter Lakai (Wellington)
  21. Cam Roigard (Counties Manukau)
  22. Aiden Morgan (Wellington)
  23. Bailyn Sullivan (Waikato)

Josh Dickson will be next cab off the ranks for the locks, as he spent about a montn as injury cover. I'd expect, as others have mentioned dirt trackers like Aidan Ross, Fakatava, RTS, Sotutu, Sowakula, Fainga'anuku and Ennor should be locks for this squad/game day 23. While a lot of us would really like this team to be packed full of our young talent. There are quite a few guys with a cap here and there who will contiue in the system through this squad. Or at least the 23.

Oh yes, forgot about Dickson. It really depends who gets picked in the AB tour squad. I’d expect most of the guys you’ve mentioned above will be in the main squad wouldn’t they? which is why I haven’t included them.

The All Blacks will be in Cardiff and Edinburgh when the All Blacks XV are playing. I'd suspect squad members 25 - jack in the squad will be playing in the All Black XV games. What I will find interesting is whether a full squad will be named for the All Black XV or a partial squad. Could also be the potential for them to train and prepare in the same city as the All Blacks to allow players to float between the main squad and the AB XV. Then just head to Dublin and London a day before the games. I think there is a lot of opportunities to maximise gametime for the players on tour. Some of the squad players might play Japan and the two All Blacks XV games. It would be a waste for guys like Fakatava or RTS to sit in the stands when there are opportunities for the AB XV side.

ARHS

@Frye said in All Blacks XV:

What are people's thought on Emoni Narawa? He's looked dynamite from highlights, what's the rest of his game like?

Prone to loose moments far too often prior to this year. Has tightened up his accuracy noticeably this season. I like his positional awareness for an attacking opportunity and how he runs hard onto the ball.

Crucial

@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:

@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:

@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:

@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:

If I had to pick a team based on the fact McKenzie will most likely come into the All Blacks for Perofeta, I would go for something like this as a 23. (Assuming everyone is fit by the time the squad heads away).

  1. Alex Hodgman (Auckland)
  2. Asafo Aumua (Wellington)
  3. Angus Ta’avao (Auckland)
  4. Justin Sangster (Bay of Plenty)
  5. Zach Gallagher (Canterbury)
  6. Luke Jacobsen (Waikato)
  7. Tom Christie (Canterbury)
  8. Devan Flanders (Hawkes Bay)
  9. Brad Weber (Hawkes Bay)
  10. Stephen Perofeta (Taranaki)
  11. AJ Lam (Auckland)
  12. Thomas Umaga-Jensen (Otago)
  13. Peter Umaga-Jensen (Wellington)
  14. Mark Telea (North Harbour)
  15. Josh Moorby (Northland)
  16. Kurt Eklund (Bay of Plenty)
  17. Tamaiti Williams (Canterbury)
  18. Tevita Mafileo (Bay of Plenty)
  19. Fabian Holland (Otago)
  20. Peter Lakai (Wellington)
  21. Cam Roigard (Counties Manukau)
  22. Aiden Morgan (Wellington)
  23. Bailyn Sullivan (Waikato)

Josh Dickson will be next cab off the ranks for the locks, as he spent about a montn as injury cover. I'd expect, as others have mentioned dirt trackers like Aidan Ross, Fakatava, RTS, Sotutu, Sowakula, Fainga'anuku and Ennor should be locks for this squad/game day 23. While a lot of us would really like this team to be packed full of our young talent. There are quite a few guys with a cap here and there who will contiue in the system through this squad. Or at least the 23.

Oh yes, forgot about Dickson. It really depends who gets picked in the AB tour squad. I’d expect most of the guys you’ve mentioned above will be in the main squad wouldn’t they? which is why I haven’t included them.

The All Blacks will be in Cardiff and Edinburgh when the All Blacks XV are playing. I'd suspect squad members 25 - jack in the squad will be playing in the All Black XV games. What I will find interesting is whether a full squad will be named for the All Black XV or a partial squad. Could also be the potential for them to train and prepare in the same city as the All Blacks to allow players to float between the main squad and the AB XV. Then just head to Dublin and London a day before the games. I think there is a lot of opportunities to maximise gametime for the players on tour. Some of the squad players might play Japan and the two All Blacks XV games. It would be a waste for guys like Fakatava or RTS to sit in the stands when there are opportunities for the AB XV side.

The AB management does seem to like the Lensbury facilities so it wouldn't surprise me if that remains the base. Might need to go to each playing city in time for promotional/sponsor stuff but no reason to need much more than a field for trainings.