@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks XV:
Congrats to Rangi.
Looking forward to seeing what sort of squad he will work with.
It may have been covered in the thread but who are the selectors for this squad? Is it just the AB selectors with input from Rangi?
From the article below:
All Blacks coach Ian Foster and his fellow selectors will name the All Blacks XV squad, although he expects there to be minimal crossover of players between his and MacDonald's teams.
Given that many of Fosters selections this year were hardly used or were discarded quickly I wonder the value in him picking the “bubbling under” squad.
PGS, RTS, Perofeta, Jacobsen, Vaa’i, Fakatava, LF, that lump from Canterbury….
LOL. How many shots to the head did he take?
@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks XV:
@Tim Mark Telea will obviously be the Right winger
Is Stevenson not still on fire?
@Tim said in All Blacks XV:
would be a fucking million miles from any NZ rep team
I hear they make pretty tasty hats these days.
@Tim said in All Blacks XV:
@Bones How is the All Black career of Rob Thompson going these days?
About as good as Yourself or Someone Like You.
@Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:
The Barbarians game isn't at Twickenham. I thought they always played at Twickenham, when playing at home?
Will the Qatar world cup be on at that same time? Probably. Looks like unused football stadium could provide some economic competition? Or more likely, now I think about it, England , Wales etc. are already playing home games that weekend.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:
A back three of Stevenson, Telea and Lam would be bloody good to watch.
With Levi Aumua and Thomas Umaga-Jensen in midfield.
If I had to pick a team based on the fact McKenzie will most likely come into the All Blacks for Perofeta, I would go for something like this as a 23. (Assuming everyone is fit by the time the squad heads away).
@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:
If I had to pick a team based on the fact McKenzie will most likely come into the All Blacks for Perofeta, I would go for something like this as a 23. (Assuming everyone is fit by the time the squad heads away).
- Alex Hodgman (Auckland)
- Asafo Aumua (Wellington)
- Angus Ta’avao (Auckland)
- Justin Sangster (Bay of Plenty)
- Zach Gallagher (Canterbury)
- Luke Jacobsen (Waikato)
- Tom Christie (Canterbury)
- Devan Flanders (Hawkes Bay)
- Brad Weber (Hawkes Bay)
- Stephen Perofeta (Taranaki)
- AJ Lam (Auckland)
- Thomas Umaga-Jensen (Otago)
- Peter Umaga-Jensen (Wellington)
- Mark Telea (North Harbour)
- Josh Moorby (Northland)
- Kurt Eklund (Bay of Plenty)
- Tamaiti Williams (Canterbury)
- Tevita Mafileo (Bay of Plenty)
- Fabian Holland (Otago)
- Peter Lakai (Wellington)
- Cam Roigard (Counties Manukau)
- Aiden Morgan (Wellington)
- Bailyn Sullivan (Waikato)
Josh Dickson will be next cab off the ranks for the locks, as he spent about a montn as injury cover. I'd expect, as others have mentioned dirt trackers like Aidan Ross, Fakatava, RTS, Sotutu, Sowakula, Fainga'anuku and Ennor should be locks for this squad/game day 23. While a lot of us would really like this team to be packed full of our young talent. There are quite a few guys with a cap here and there who will contiue in the system through this squad. Or at least the 23.
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:
If I had to pick a team based on the fact McKenzie will most likely come into the All Blacks for Perofeta, I would go for something like this as a 23. (Assuming everyone is fit by the time the squad heads away).
- Alex Hodgman (Auckland)
- Asafo Aumua (Wellington)
- Angus Ta’avao (Auckland)
- Justin Sangster (Bay of Plenty)
- Zach Gallagher (Canterbury)
- Luke Jacobsen (Waikato)
- Tom Christie (Canterbury)
- Devan Flanders (Hawkes Bay)
- Brad Weber (Hawkes Bay)
- Stephen Perofeta (Taranaki)
- AJ Lam (Auckland)
- Thomas Umaga-Jensen (Otago)
- Peter Umaga-Jensen (Wellington)
- Mark Telea (North Harbour)
- Josh Moorby (Northland)
- Kurt Eklund (Bay of Plenty)
- Tamaiti Williams (Canterbury)
- Tevita Mafileo (Bay of Plenty)
- Fabian Holland (Otago)
- Peter Lakai (Wellington)
- Cam Roigard (Counties Manukau)
- Aiden Morgan (Wellington)
- Bailyn Sullivan (Waikato)
Josh Dickson will be next cab off the ranks for the locks, as he spent about a montn as injury cover. I'd expect, as others have mentioned dirt trackers like Aidan Ross, Fakatava, RTS, Sotutu, Sowakula, Fainga'anuku and Ennor should be locks for this squad/game day 23. While a lot of us would really like this team to be packed full of our young talent. There are quite a few guys with a cap here and there who will contiue in the system through this squad. Or at least the 23.
Oh yes, forgot about Dickson. It really depends who gets picked in the AB tour squad. I’d expect most of the guys you’ve mentioned above will be in the main squad wouldn’t they? which is why I haven’t included them.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:
If I had to pick a team based on the fact McKenzie will most likely come into the All Blacks for Perofeta, I would go for something like this as a 23. (Assuming everyone is fit by the time the squad heads away).
- Alex Hodgman (Auckland)
- Asafo Aumua (Wellington)
- Angus Ta’avao (Auckland)
- Justin Sangster (Bay of Plenty)
- Zach Gallagher (Canterbury)
- Luke Jacobsen (Waikato)
- Tom Christie (Canterbury)
- Devan Flanders (Hawkes Bay)
- Brad Weber (Hawkes Bay)
- Stephen Perofeta (Taranaki)
- AJ Lam (Auckland)
- Thomas Umaga-Jensen (Otago)
- Peter Umaga-Jensen (Wellington)
- Mark Telea (North Harbour)
- Josh Moorby (Northland)
- Kurt Eklund (Bay of Plenty)
- Tamaiti Williams (Canterbury)
- Tevita Mafileo (Bay of Plenty)
- Fabian Holland (Otago)
- Peter Lakai (Wellington)
- Cam Roigard (Counties Manukau)
- Aiden Morgan (Wellington)
- Bailyn Sullivan (Waikato)
Josh Dickson will be next cab off the ranks for the locks, as he spent about a montn as injury cover. I'd expect, as others have mentioned dirt trackers like Aidan Ross, Fakatava, RTS, Sotutu, Sowakula, Fainga'anuku and Ennor should be locks for this squad/game day 23. While a lot of us would really like this team to be packed full of our young talent. There are quite a few guys with a cap here and there who will contiue in the system through this squad. Or at least the 23.
Oh yes, forgot about Dickson. It really depends who gets picked in the AB tour squad. I’d expect most of the guys you’ve mentioned above will be in the main squad wouldn’t they? which is why I haven’t included them.
The All Blacks will be in Cardiff and Edinburgh when the All Blacks XV are playing. I'd suspect squad members 25 - jack in the squad will be playing in the All Black XV games. What I will find interesting is whether a full squad will be named for the All Black XV or a partial squad. Could also be the potential for them to train and prepare in the same city as the All Blacks to allow players to float between the main squad and the AB XV. Then just head to Dublin and London a day before the games. I think there is a lot of opportunities to maximise gametime for the players on tour. Some of the squad players might play Japan and the two All Blacks XV games. It would be a waste for guys like Fakatava or RTS to sit in the stands when there are opportunities for the AB XV side.
@Frye said in All Blacks XV:
What are people's thought on Emoni Narawa? He's looked dynamite from highlights, what's the rest of his game like?
Prone to loose moments far too often prior to this year. Has tightened up his accuracy noticeably this season. I like his positional awareness for an attacking opportunity and how he runs hard onto the ball.
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:
If I had to pick a team based on the fact McKenzie will most likely come into the All Blacks for Perofeta, I would go for something like this as a 23. (Assuming everyone is fit by the time the squad heads away).
- Alex Hodgman (Auckland)
- Asafo Aumua (Wellington)
- Angus Ta’avao (Auckland)
- Justin Sangster (Bay of Plenty)
- Zach Gallagher (Canterbury)
- Luke Jacobsen (Waikato)
- Tom Christie (Canterbury)
- Devan Flanders (Hawkes Bay)
- Brad Weber (Hawkes Bay)
- Stephen Perofeta (Taranaki)
- AJ Lam (Auckland)
- Thomas Umaga-Jensen (Otago)
- Peter Umaga-Jensen (Wellington)
- Mark Telea (North Harbour)
- Josh Moorby (Northland)
- Kurt Eklund (Bay of Plenty)
- Tamaiti Williams (Canterbury)
- Tevita Mafileo (Bay of Plenty)
- Fabian Holland (Otago)
- Peter Lakai (Wellington)
- Cam Roigard (Counties Manukau)
- Aiden Morgan (Wellington)
- Bailyn Sullivan (Waikato)
Josh Dickson will be next cab off the ranks for the locks, as he spent about a montn as injury cover. I'd expect, as others have mentioned dirt trackers like Aidan Ross, Fakatava, RTS, Sotutu, Sowakula, Fainga'anuku and Ennor should be locks for this squad/game day 23. While a lot of us would really like this team to be packed full of our young talent. There are quite a few guys with a cap here and there who will contiue in the system through this squad. Or at least the 23.
Oh yes, forgot about Dickson. It really depends who gets picked in the AB tour squad. I’d expect most of the guys you’ve mentioned above will be in the main squad wouldn’t they? which is why I haven’t included them.
The All Blacks will be in Cardiff and Edinburgh when the All Blacks XV are playing. I'd suspect squad members 25 - jack in the squad will be playing in the All Black XV games. What I will find interesting is whether a full squad will be named for the All Black XV or a partial squad. Could also be the potential for them to train and prepare in the same city as the All Blacks to allow players to float between the main squad and the AB XV. Then just head to Dublin and London a day before the games. I think there is a lot of opportunities to maximise gametime for the players on tour. Some of the squad players might play Japan and the two All Blacks XV games. It would be a waste for guys like Fakatava or RTS to sit in the stands when there are opportunities for the AB XV side.
The AB management does seem to like the Lensbury facilities so it wouldn't surprise me if that remains the base. Might need to go to each playing city in time for promotional/sponsor stuff but no reason to need much more than a field for trainings.
"It's an opportunity for the All Blacks coaches to see a wider pool," MacDonald told Newstalk ZB. "They'll take a squad away on the end-of-year tour that they'll have a good, close look at leading into a World Cup year, and this gives them an opportunity to see some other guys who have just missed out or are on the fringe.
"I think the next-best is important. If [the All Blacks] have injuries or form [issues], they want to know who's ready to go. So there's going to be some guys who have been in the All Blacks and aren't there now, or on the cusp, and then it might be an opportunity to start bringing some other guys through as well.
"You'll get a little bit of both, but predominantly it's about getting that next tier of player some exposure at that next level."
With the All Blacks set to take away 36 men for their four-match tour, MacDonald's squad will be slightly smaller as players who enjoy little test action can also see time in the second-tier team.
Watched a few minutes of Waikato/BOP game, and McKenzie doesn't look very good. I'd start Perofeta at 10.
Could be a pretty handy tight five, depending on who is available from this year's ABs. Bench lock might be a tough pick.
1 Hodgman
2 Aumua
3 Ta'avao
4 Dickson
5 Tuipulotu
16 Eklund
17 Ross
18 Newell
19 ?
@taniwharugby Yeah, Aumua and Thompson are also guys for the future. Eklund not so much.
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:
If I had to pick a team based on the fact McKenzie will most likely come into the All Blacks for Perofeta, I would go for something like this as a 23. (Assuming everyone is fit by the time the squad heads away).
- Alex Hodgman (Auckland)
- Asafo Aumua (Wellington)
- Angus Ta’avao (Auckland)
- Justin Sangster (Bay of Plenty)
- Zach Gallagher (Canterbury)
- Luke Jacobsen (Waikato)
- Tom Christie (Canterbury)
- Devan Flanders (Hawkes Bay)
- Brad Weber (Hawkes Bay)
- Stephen Perofeta (Taranaki)
- AJ Lam (Auckland)
- Thomas Umaga-Jensen (Otago)
- Peter Umaga-Jensen (Wellington)
- Mark Telea (North Harbour)
- Josh Moorby (Northland)
- Kurt Eklund (Bay of Plenty)
- Tamaiti Williams (Canterbury)
- Tevita Mafileo (Bay of Plenty)
- Fabian Holland (Otago)
- Peter Lakai (Wellington)
- Cam Roigard (Counties Manukau)
- Aiden Morgan (Wellington)
- Bailyn Sullivan (Waikato)
Josh Dickson will be next cab off the ranks for the locks, as he spent about a montn as injury cover. I'd expect, as others have mentioned dirt trackers like Aidan Ross, Fakatava, RTS, Sotutu, Sowakula, Fainga'anuku and Ennor should be locks for this squad/game day 23. While a lot of us would really like this team to be packed full of our young talent. There are quite a few guys with a cap here and there who will contiue in the system through this squad. Or at least the 23.
But they're not hurricanes.
@Tim said in All Blacks XV:
@Bones No, no, no, some kid named Peter Lakai will definitely be in the team, and then starting for the ABs at the World Cup!
To be fair, naming a crusader in the positions where you hate the canes player is almost clever. But I just watched Christie get shat on by Lentjes of all players, while Harmon was killing it all over the park.
A 26-man squad to be named a few days after the AB squad. Foster has said there will be little cross-over between the squads due to the location and dates of their respective games.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:
If I had to pick a team based on the fact McKenzie will most likely come into the All Blacks for Perofeta, I would go for something like this as a 23. (Assuming everyone is fit by the time the squad heads away).
- Alex Hodgman (Auckland)
- Asafo Aumua (Wellington)
- Angus Ta’avao (Auckland)
- Justin Sangster (Bay of Plenty)
- Zach Gallagher (Canterbury)
- Luke Jacobsen (Waikato)
- Tom Christie (Canterbury)
- Devan Flanders (Hawkes Bay)
- Brad Weber (Hawkes Bay)
- Stephen Perofeta (Taranaki)
- AJ Lam (Auckland)
- Thomas Umaga-Jensen (Otago)
- Peter Umaga-Jensen (Wellington)
- Mark Telea (North Harbour)
- Josh Moorby (Northland)
- Kurt Eklund (Bay of Plenty)
- Tamaiti Williams (Canterbury)
- Tevita Mafileo (Bay of Plenty)
- Fabian Holland (Otago)
- Peter Lakai (Wellington)
- Cam Roigard (Counties Manukau)
- Aiden Morgan (Wellington)
- Bailyn Sullivan (Waikato)
Stephenson > Moorby
I think they will bring Tamaiti Williams for this tour. He is not the finished product yet but his ceiling is very high.
Given the attrional nature of the loose, I'd also like to find room somewhere for Harmon and Lentjes.
@Jailbreak7 I don’t know if Harmon will make this side but for me he has been a standout in this years NPC.
For the AB XV I would’ve loved to have seen a loose trio with Grace, Jacobsen and PGS. Add Dickson and one of the young up and coming locks plus the front rowers that have been in the ABs previously and you have a pretty decent pack.
@Jailbreak7 said in All Blacks XV:
Given the attrional nature of the loose, I'd also like to find room somewhere for Harmon and Lentjes.
Big no for Lentjes. Lentjes is just another Gibson. Will pull out a decent game every so often but few and far between. A good super rugby filler.
Big yes for Harmon. Consistent and can pull it out in the big games, plus seemingly a great rugby brain.
If they're wanting to stay close to AB patterns they could do worse than 7 Jacobson and 8 Harmon.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks XV:
@Jailbreak7 I don’t know if Harmon will make this side but for me he has been a standout in this years NPC.
Harmon has been a massive improver in NZ rugby. Looked a bit of a plodder early in his career and I would have laughed if anyone mentioned him for any sort of higher honour.
The Crusaders must be wondering if they kept the wrong 7.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks XV:
For the AB XV I would’ve loved to have seen a loose trio with Grace, Jacobsen and PGS.
PGS really? He should be done, he was out of form by the time he was selected and then looked out of his depth. If we're just rolling the dice letting anyone have a shot then MMT or Flanders are your guys, for some reason they just popped into my head.
