All Blacks XV 2022

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks XV:

@gt12 said in All Blacks XV:

@Chris-B said in All Blacks XV:

I wonder whether the squad of 36 has any room for an apprentice?

Is there anyone that undeniably ‘will be an AB’ that is also too young/inexperienced for the ABXV?

George Bell will be an AB. Put your house on it.

Just in case, I like my hats with BBQ sauce….

Guaranteed like how when people saw DC and went he’ll be an AB or when those blokes on the Fern watched the U20s and guaranteed Robbie Robinson was going to be a long term AB 10 instead of AC?

@Canes4life said in All Blacks XV:

Foster has already said that this XV side will be a reserve squad for the WC instead of a development squad this close to the WC. Therefore guys like Perenara/Weber would be favoured over guys like Roigard/Hotham I would imagine.

Given there are going to be new players, I think it will serve both purposes.

Halfback, 1st 5 and lock will be particularly interesting because you have Weber, TJP, DMac, Tuipoluto all in the mix.

They can't just take 2 halfbacks and hookers unless they are guaranteed to use the ABs if injury strikes in specialist positions. That won't work for the Baabaas game if the ABs are in Scotland at the same time. Experience plus some development would the way to go.

@Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

They can't just take 2 halfbacks and hookers unless they are guaranteed to use the ABs if injury strikes in specialist positions. That won't work for the Baabaas game if the ABs are in Scotland at the same time. Experience plus some development would the way to go.

DMac

Any leaks or rumours? I guess there was Levi Aumua from Kirwan.

@Machpants said in All Blacks XV:

@Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

They can't just take 2 halfbacks and hookers unless they are guaranteed to use the ABs if injury strikes in specialist positions. That won't work for the Baabaas game if the ABs are in Scotland at the same time. Experience plus some development would the way to go.

DMac

JB has one good game at 12 and the Fern goes mad.

@Nepia said in All Blacks XV:

@Machpants said in All Blacks XV:

@Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

They can't just take 2 halfbacks and hookers unless they are guaranteed to use the ABs if injury strikes in specialist positions. That won't work for the Baabaas game if the ABs are in Scotland at the same time. Experience plus some development would the way to go.

DMac

JB has one good game at 12 and the Fern goes mad.

To be fair while I agreup to a point, he actually had a couple of good games at 12, when he moved there after QT's injury, I thought he played bloody well, especially as wouldn't of had much time there in training.

@Dan54 said in All Blacks XV:

@Nepia said in All Blacks XV:

@Machpants said in All Blacks XV:

@Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

They can't just take 2 halfbacks and hookers unless they are guaranteed to use the ABs if injury strikes in specialist positions. That won't work for the Baabaas game if the ABs are in Scotland at the same time. Experience plus some development would the way to go.

DMac

JB has one good game at 12 and the Fern goes mad.

To be fair while I agreup to a point, he actually had a couple of good games at 12, when he moved there after QT's injury, I thought he played bloody well, especially as wouldn't of had much time there in training.

Um, I think you missed the post I was replying to - I’m making a joke about players out of position, not JBs performance at 12.

@Nepia said in All Blacks XV:

@Dan54 said in All Blacks XV:

@Nepia said in All Blacks XV:

@Machpants said in All Blacks XV:

@Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

They can't just take 2 halfbacks and hookers unless they are guaranteed to use the ABs if injury strikes in specialist positions. That won't work for the Baabaas game if the ABs are in Scotland at the same time. Experience plus some development would the way to go.

DMac

JB has one good game at 12 and the Fern goes mad.

To be fair while I agreup to a point, he actually had a couple of good games at 12, when he moved there after QT's injury, I thought he played bloody well, especially as wouldn't of had much time there in training.

Um, I think you missed the post I was replying to - I’m making a joke about players out of position, not JBs performance at 12.

The Fern seems to be more Fern references these days than discussions about players (ok, I'll head over to the GOM thread)...

It would so refreshing to see the outstanding and deserved fringe players from NPC and SR we all want - get an AB XV call-up. Just to see a different mix running around and taking the field in the NH would be excellent.

@Jailbreak7 said in All Blacks XV:

It would so refreshing to see the outstanding and deserved fringe players from NPC and SR we all want - get an AB XV call-up. Just to see a different mix running around and taking the field in the NH would be excellent.

It's a tricky one eh? I'm not convinced that the selectors will get things 'right' with this team, balancing the need for a winning team with understudies for the ABs and opportunities for 'bubbling under' with reward for current performers.
Given that it is rare that players get selected on NPC form and the timing here means that they are in between Super seasons I think we are going to get a muddled bunch of 'all of the above'
Do you look into the past and keep Weber/TJP interested or bring on someone like Roigard who hasn't been able to show much at Super level? Do you start them young with some of the tyro locks around or look to the warhorses that are good but not good enough to threaten the incumbents?

Just a side piece here as I was cleaning out some books and stuff the other day and came across this programme from the 2005 JABs v Oz A game.
Interesting set of players and coaches. Can't remember the circumstances for all the players but it looks like the selectors had it mostly right.

There was probably a Fern meltdown going on about both Ralph and FABSH being selected. Such strikepower

@Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

Just a side piece here as I was cleaning out some books and stuff the other day and came across this programme from the 2005 JABs v Oz A game.
Interesting set of players and coaches. Can't remember the circumstances for all the players but it looks like the selectors had it mostly right.

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No wonder Foster loved Bridge for so long, Ralph was the blueprint.

@chimoaus damn he's been in the NZR set up for a long time now!!

Is there any indication around what time this squad will be announced.

@chimoaus said in All Blacks XV:

@Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

Just a side piece here as I was cleaning out some books and stuff the other day and came across this programme from the 2005 JABs v Oz A game.
Interesting set of players and coaches. Can't remember the circumstances for all the players but it looks like the selectors had it mostly right.

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No wonder Foster loved Bridge for so long, Ralph was the blueprint.

...and Scott Hamilton.

@SouthernMann I herd 4pm same time as abs were announced

@chimoaus said in All Blacks XV:

@Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

Just a side piece here as I was cleaning out some books and stuff the other day and came across this programme from the 2005 JABs v Oz A game.
Interesting set of players and coaches. Can't remember the circumstances for all the players but it looks like the selectors had it mostly right.

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No wonder Foster loved Bridge for so long, Ralph was the blueprint.

Add Ennor to that logic.

Anyway we know that 2 have been named in DMac and Angus Ta'avao (if he feels ok).
Interesting to hear Fozzie saying a couple of ABs will drop back and get some game time with them.