I feel weird.
Not sure I want the ABs to win.................cos......................
@Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
I feel weird.
Not sure I want the ABs to win.................cos......................
i hope we flog fuck through them, and all the players that piss me off turn in absolute blinders.
I want the ABs to win.
But deep down I truly believe the ABs are broken and the sooner this coaching staff is binned the better.
Realistically for that to happen it means a Bledisloe loss and the end of the Eden Park streak.
@DaGrubster the soundbite I heard this morning is that 4th is the lowest we have ever been since the rankings have been a thing.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
I feel weird.
Not sure I want the ABs to win.................cos......................i hope we flog fuck through them, and all the players that piss me off turn in absolute blinders.
Yeah I mostly feel that way too. But I am conflicted. A hiding (or even a win) would just paper over the cracks and we will continue to stumble along to further disappointment.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
I feel weird.
Not sure I want the ABs to win.................cos......................i hope we flog fuck through them, and all the players that piss me off turn in absolute blinders.
yeah, would love a different 15 than named to run out...play a worldie...80m of every time the cut to foozie seeing him scream about know knowing whats going on and then in the speeches after someone just says they realised they knew more than Foozie so took things into their own hands...
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@DaGrubster the soundbite I heard this morning is that 4th is the lowest we have ever been since the rankings have been a thing.
i bet no player knows this
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@DaGrubster the soundbite I heard this morning is that 4th is the lowest we have ever been since the rankings have been a thing.
i bet no player knows this
Can't hear through their big headphones
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@DaGrubster the soundbite I heard this morning is that 4th is the lowest we have ever been since the rankings have been a thing.
i bet no player knows this
Can't hear through their big headphones
gotta focus on Origin bro
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@DaGrubster the soundbite I heard this morning is that 4th is the lowest we have ever been since the rankings have been a thing.
i bet no player knows this
Can't hear through their big headphones
gotta focus on Origin bro
i hear its pretty good...maybe we should watch that instead
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@DaGrubster the soundbite I heard this morning is that 4th is the lowest we have ever been since the rankings have been a thing.
i bet no player knows this
Can't hear through their big headphones
gotta focus on Origin bro
I always remember Big Mal after Canberra's first NRL win. Thru tears he said "It's bigger than playing for Australia, bigger than playing for QLD".
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@DaGrubster the soundbite I heard this morning is that 4th is the lowest we have ever been since the rankings have been a thing.
i bet no player knows this
Can't hear through their big headphones
gotta focus on Origin bro
I always remember Big Mal after Canberra's first NRL win. Thru tears he said "It's bigger than playing for Australia, bigger than playing for QLD".
(aside: i saw an old video of Mal the other week scoring an 80m runaway. beat the first tackler because he was massive, then i forgot how fucking quick he was for a huge unit. just an awesome player).
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@DaGrubster the soundbite I heard this morning is that 4th is the lowest we have ever been since the rankings have been a thing.
i bet no player knows this
Another fault of the coaches.
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@DaGrubster the soundbite I heard this morning is that 4th is the lowest we have ever been since the rankings have been a thing.
i bet no player knows this
Another fault of the coaches.
i hide my fuckups from the staff too...
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@DaGrubster the soundbite I heard this morning is that 4th is the lowest we have ever been since the rankings have been a thing.
i bet no player knows this
Another fault of the coaches.
i hide my fuckups from the staff too...
They must have shut off the players' wifi and data access then.....
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@DaGrubster the soundbite I heard this morning is that 4th is the lowest we have ever been since the rankings have been a thing.
i bet no player knows this
Another fault of the coaches.
i hide my fuckups from the staff too...
They must have shut off the players' wifi and data access then.....
Google subjected to data rate restriction so Insta can get the attention it deserves.
@Mattasaurus said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Does anyone think Foster has lost the dressing room?
Or is he in the process of losing it...
I’d have to go and get changed with the All Blacks to answer that unequivocally
@antipodean well you can get a plan with Vodafone for unlimited social data use, but has limited data otherwise.
@Mattasaurus said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Does anyone think Foster has lost the dressing room?
Or is he in the process of losing it...
I have wondered this for the last few years. The senior players would have all been under numerous coaches and would instantly know whether Fozzie is a goose or not.
There are a number of anonymous survey tools now, simply survey the playing group making sure it is anonymous to get accurate feedback. There is very heavy bias when speaking in public about someone's ability.
@Mattasaurus said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Does anyone think Foster has lost the dressing room?
Or is he in the process of losing it...
if on honest, there are probably enough guys in this squad that should have been dropped on pure form at least briefly over the last few years, they probably know they have foozie to thank for keeping them around
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@DaGrubster the soundbite I heard this morning is that 4th is the lowest we have ever been since the rankings have been a thing.
i bet no player knows this
Can't hear through their big headphones
gotta focus on Origin bro
i hear its pretty good...maybe we should watch that instead
Well the ABs and Ireland followed the origin script correctly - one team wins the first match, the other has a big win in the second, sets up the decider to be the greatest match in the history of the known multiverses.
lowest world ranking ever?
At least the slide has been consistent.
I'm a bit cynical about world rankings but perhaps it is time the NZR coach appointment board fell on their pens? They didn't just appoint, they created a crap selection process, and reappointed!
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
lowest world ranking ever?
At least the slide has been consistent.
I'm a bit cynical about world rankings but perhaps it is time the NZR coach appointment board fell on their pens? They didn't just appoint, they created a crap selection process, and reappointed!
Jobs for the boys doesn't work anymore
Any Wellingtonians still looking for tickets - 200 have been released on the tickets section of the All Blacks site this afternoon.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
lowest world ranking ever?
At least the slide has been consistent.
I'm a bit cynical about world rankings but perhaps it is time the NZR coach appointment board fell on their pens? They didn't just appoint, they created a crap selection process, and reappointed!
Has anyone seen the world rankings, there is about 1.3 points between France and NZ which is as big as gap between 1 & 2 often, so they a bit crazy, but if we want coaching appointment panel (that actually no longer exist as they on are a thing while ciaches are appointed) we in a crazy world.
Goodhue 12 Reiko 13, gonna be the world cup combo, Clarke 11 Jordan 14. ALB, Reece, TUJ to fight for 23 jersey.
Yes it is. They were introduced in 2003
@kiwi_expat said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Goodhue 12 Reiko 13, gonna be the world cup combo, Clarke 11 Jordan 14. ALB, Reece, TUJ to fight for 23 jersey.
poor Rieko, the amount of times I've seen his name misspell through the years would be in the hundreds
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
If we lose , is it possible to move out of the top 4 rankings ?
Can you imagine that ? an allblack team not in the top 4 teams in the world .
Nah even if we lose we are 4, and we have never been 4 before. I fact for 85% of the time we have been 1. Basically fosters time is the only time we haven’t been top, outside of a few months here and there
We need to win this one.
Starters:
Front row -- Bower, Nepo if 100% (Ofa if not), Taylor (as much as anything for Chch cohesion)
Locks-- BBBR, Whitelock if fit (Vaai'i if not)
Loosies -- Sam, Scooter, Ardie
Nugget
Five eighths -- BB, Havili (because we need a kicking option)
Three quarters -- Three of Reece/Rioane/Goodhue/Jordan (case for Jack to settle defence down)
Jordie.
Bench:
Ofa (Nepo), Sami T, Karl T, Vaai'i/Aioane, Sotutu, Christie, Mo'unga, Goodhue/Reece
@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@DaGrubster the soundbite I heard this morning is that 4th is the lowest we have ever been since the rankings have been a thing.
i bet no player knows this
Can't hear through their big headphones
gotta focus on Origin bro
i hear its pretty good...maybe we should watch that instead
Well the ABs and Ireland followed the origin script correctly - one team wins the first match, the other has a big win in the second, sets up the decider to be the greatest match in the history of the known multiverses.
Qld, NSW, Qld
ABs, Ireland, ???
Danny, did you back the appointment of Fozzie originally?
Do you think we need Change now?
The frustrating thing about Foster and his reign as AB coach is that it has been entirely predictable. The vast majority of fans knew this was a poor appointment, notwithstanding the issues that lay ahead of NZ rugby after the RWC2019.
If the average Person can see something the NZR can’t? What does that say about how the game is run in this country?
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Danny, did you back the appointment of Fozzie originally?
Do you think we need Change now?
The frustrating thing about Foster and his reign as AB coach is that it has been entirely predictable. The vast majority of fans knew this was a poor appointment, notwithstanding the issues that lay ahead of NZ rugby after the RWC2019.
If the average Person can see something the NZR can’t? What does that say about how the game is run in this country?
I'll play devil's advocate here:
Foster's time as head coach with the Chiefs wasn't great. But people can develop and improve if they show that they can learn from past mistakes.
Foster was given massive wraps by Hansen working as his assistant in 2015. It suggested that he had learned from past mistakes and was capable of leading a high performance team. that was how Hansen sold it at the end of his tenure as head coach.
Hansen's recommendation and NZRU's steadfast refusal to move away from the succession planning that had worked since Henry (yielding 2 back to back world cups) is what led to Foster.
You can see some method to the madness, but I am intrigued to know what Foster presented to the NZRU hiring committee. If he sold them on changing the team's tactics, there is little evidence thus far to say he has delivered.
The alarm bells were ringing after Lions 2017, and certainly after WC 2019. Did NZRU go for the continuity candidate and ignore the signs that the ABs were going stale because continuity had been so successful in the past? Or did Foster convince them that he was going to do things very differently from Hansen and revitalise the team, and that as a member of the current coaching team he was best placed to do that in a more seamless manner than a new coach (e.g. Razor)? If so, how did he convince them that he was capable of doing this?
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Danny, did you back the appointment of Fozzie originally?
Do you think we need Change now?
The frustrating thing about Foster and his reign as AB coach is that it has been entirely predictable. The vast majority of fans knew this was a poor appointment, notwithstanding the issues that lay ahead of NZ rugby after the RWC2019.
If the average Person can see something the NZR can’t? What does that say about how the game is run in this country?
The most frustrating thing about Foster for me is that when he came in, he could actually see the deficiencies. Who remembers that initial presser when he said "we are going to bring back the physicality "?
Who at the time realised that he planned on doing it with card-prone props, ageing locks, and 3 x opensides in the pack!
@kiwiinmelb so hopefully with him as ABs coach he'll sort our attack out...one day.