All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider

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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Frank Agree for some teachers but teachers involved in research (usually higher education) can get better. I suppose it is similar to going to a doctor/dentist who was trained 30 years ago and hasn't added any strings to his bow since.

You jest surely? Research makes you better in the classroom? My mate was ambitious and did his Masters in Education. What a waste of time that was!

The only advantage that doing the post-grad stuff does is what I said -- taking the time to do something different. That refreshes you just because it is something different. I took some time out a few years back, and just being out of the classroom for a while made me better when I returned.

A lot of coaches would be better off if they simply took a sabbatical every eight years or so.

I do think that coaching overseas is a massive help. It makes coaches see the game differently, and exposes them to new ways.

Duluth

RTS on the bench, wasn't expecting that

ACT Crusader

Happy to see Nepo, Whitelock, Jordan and Havili back in the starting lineup. Like the bench too.

Crucial

No Sami T? Why the persistence with Taylor?

Changes pretty much as expected otherwise though

Duluth

Who covers 13 if RI gets injured?

taniwharugby

@Duluth Havili, RTS...

They make changes, but not much really changed

mariner4life

ah, hi, yeah look i know we have spent a few days gnashing on a poor AB performance (and focusing on Origin) but

why didn't someone tell me ST was injured?

KiwiMurph

I wonder if Samisoni is injured.

RTS in the 23 jersey is an upgrade on Ennor in the 23 jersey from test 1.

Poor old Hoskins can't get a run.

taniwharugby

@Kirwan has JB...empty cupboard was what I was leaning at....stay safe Rieko.

Dan54

Well didn't see RTS , Akira or even Coles on bench, but makes for intersting team, although have liked what Tipaea has done think maybe Havili is good pick, another kicking option, and not having LF there is one less.
Bring it on and go well boys

Nepia

Oh fuck off. I've officially joined the death to Foster camp now.

Taylor has been shite, Sami has to have Covid/injury, right?
Scooter is not a 6 and despite the hype over his last two matches he's topping the missed tackles and turnovers conceded for the team.

kiwiinmelb

On the same show yesterday on Senz that gave the rumour about joe joining the Allblacks coaching ,

Also Mentioned there will be a massive debut off the bench this week.

Duluth

@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

has JB...empty cupboard was what I was leaning at....stay safe Rieko.

I would go for Jordie. He hasn't played 13 for a few seasons but he's started 8 SR games there

Asking to much of RTS on debut & Havili is still learning 12

taniwharugby

@Duluth of the options, I go with Rieko playing 80...

ACT Crusader

@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Kirwan has JB...empty cupboard was what I was leaning at....stay safe Rieko.

Jordie played centre for both Canterbury and has for the Canes

Touchwood but Ioane is pretty durable so I don’t think we are replacing him unless we are well and truly up (als Test 1). And congrats to the young fella for racking up 50 tests.

antipodean

Cue post match interview with Ardie: "I didn't know Ireland had never won a series in New Zealand..."

Duluth

All Blacks by 20 (assuming no red cards.. or the same amount of red cards to both sides)

antipodean

For all the talk about New Zealand fans are very knowledgeable, I just checked out the comments section on Facebook.

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mariner4life

so, yep, change at tighthead absolutely called for.
No change at hooker bar getting rid of our best one is, interesting (again i assume he's hurt or sick)
Whitelock in a no brainer
The like SB at 6 so him going back there a no brainer
Savea is the best player in the world so him staying a no brainer
It was obvious to everyone that the reason we lost was QT played fucking shit so getting DH back in a no brainer
Jordan had to play, no brainer.

Bench picks itself given the above selections, except RTS which is, interesting to say the least

we are nothing if not predictable.

Duluth

@Kirwan

The cards had a huge impact. A poor All Blacks side that played a bit shit tired them out and won by 23 in the first Test

Keep 15 on the field and keep the game moving

Dan54

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

We are tied in a test series and 4th on the rankings in world rugby, and while being a bit disppointed, not as disappointed as maybe the reaction on forums by so called AB supporters, there seems almost no credit given to Ireland for winning 2nd test, only tearing clothes and screaming about how poor ABs were, want to know something Irish were bloody good and made us look poor, and we 4th on rankings, prehaps French (in my opinion clearly best team), Ireland , and Boks (though I feel some of theirs is residual points from year off) just deserve to be in the positions they are in.

I think the issue is not the losses so much, it's the manner of the losses/performances.

If you look at things the ABs can control, things like their attacking shape, their defensive system, their kicking game, there are real problems there - the same problems that came up last year.

There's almost no sign of progress or change being made with the ABs.

Despite 12 months of superior form from Samisoni the likes of Codie Taylor are nailed on starters etc.

Yep and that is more a sensible post, and not against them mate, just the rantings of many on here, and not looking at other good teams. , and their strengths. Irish are I still say a bloody good rugby team, and do think the NH do tend to be able to change game plans better than us, , and I think is helped by their club and 6N comps wheer they play such a variety of teams and styles week in and out. I also think we seeing the loss of SA from super starting to show.

antipodean

Why start Nepo? It's not like our scrum creaks against Ireland with that second row pushing. And Nepo offers less than nothing around the ground.

Hooker with the most impact can't get into the 23.

Most ineffective blindside flanker to start.

Greatest second half impact backrower starts.

Sotutu must have a broken leg.

At least Havili is there to straighten the line...

Dan54

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

so, yep, change at tighthead absolutely called for.
No change at hooker bar getting rid of our best one is, interesting (again i assume he's hurt or sick)
Whitelock in a no brainer
The like SB at 6 so him going back there a no brainer
Savea is the best player in the world so him staying a no brainer
It was obvious to everyone that the reason we lost was QT played fucking shit so getting DH back in a no brainer
Jordan had to play, no brainer.

Bench picks itself given the above selections, except RTS which is, interesting to say the least

we are nothing if not predictable.

I agree with Havili as he offers us versatily at 12 that perhaps Tupaea doesn't offer (and I a Tupaea fan), I too wonder if ST is injured or something(or is it scrumming?), though maybe we mssied something. I a little surprised that RTS is ahead of Goodhue in reserves, but again not sure how he has recovered from covid, some take a bit of getting over it.

Gone for experience. Mostly ok, would have had Jack for his defensive qualities starting. But if he doesn’t start then he won’t make the bench. RTS is just odd. Given his error rate, a big call.

ACT Crusader

I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

ACT Crusader

@Duluth said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Kirwan

The cards had a huge impact. A poor All Blacks side that played a bit shit tired them out and won by 23 in the first Test

Keep 15 on the field and keep the game moving

Agree.

Death, taxes, there will be cards this test…

Bovidae

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

Why start Nepo? It's not like our scrum creaks against Ireland with that second row pushing. And Nepo offers less than nothing around the ground.

I am happy that Ofa has paid for his terrible performance. It goes without saying that it would be much better if we had a better alternative than Nepo.

taniwharugby

@ACT-Crusader at least they will give us something to chat/moan about next week...

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

If you watched the Warriors games you will see that Roger often made mistakes - and got pushed off in tackles. He has been the same with the Blues. So great attacking but has some issues. In such a big game it’s a big call.

Stargazer

Don't know what the reason is that Sotutu doesn't get a run, but if they're not going to use him, can they please bring in Cullen Grace for the Rugby Championship?

Taylor has done f all to warrant his spot. ST better be injured.

Dan54

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

Yep and certainly takes away any thoughts of conservative picks. I guess time to see if he stays for RC too?

Nepia

@kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

If you watched the Warriors games you will see that Roger often made mistakes - and got pushed off in tackles. He has been the same with the Blues. So great attacking but has some issues. In such a big game it’s a big call.

For the Warriors RTS was generally covering for 12 dunderheads and having to account for most of the attacking metres for his side at the same time.