All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider

@Crucial said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

and coached
and served on the committee for a decade

but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

Must be the impression you give

no, that impression of being a bombastic know-it-all but with little clue is actually real, but not because i have no clubland links

Media release:

@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

Taukei’aho didn't have the impact in the Ireland tests that he had last year. I can also understand them not starting Coles, who hasn't played much at all, this year. So in that light, starting Taylor makes a lot of sense. I don't think he's been as bad as people are posting here.

Yep almost seems some players are more effective against super defences etc huh Star?

Coming back to this post. You either haven't watched him playing in black or are thinking of someone else. There is no way in hell that comment can be justified.
No stats required to see him driving forward and making tackles better than anyone else we have. You could even rate him among the best in the world at hooker.
If he isn't injured I'll will remove all benefit of doubt I have been giving these coaches.

@Crucial said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

We are complaining that our gameplan seems to rely on individual brilliance but then have two 10s that have always played that way.

I wonder if Perofeta, Zarn Sullivan or even David Havili might be better in those spots post World Cup.

@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

Don't know what the reason is that Sotutu doesn't get a run, but if they're not going to use him, can they please bring in Cullen Grace for the Rugby Championship?

I wonder if that part of it Star? Have they already decided that Grace has made a statement for MABs, so will not gavie Sotutu a run. Also after this week a smaller squad has to be named for RC anyway, so some will miss out.

Although, why (if it happened) ditch Sotutu though when PGS has had a poor start to internationals?

Yeah, that's just weird. Probably it's just due to something we're not seeing and that they're seeing at training (?).

It's Foster's super secret insight into the players.

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

so i assume the presser hasn't happened

what does selection tell us?

Little change to the pack means the same tactics there i imagine.
Havili in means probably as much if not more kicking, just by someone else.

absolutely, my take is ST injured/Covid , Havili is the acknowledgement they wanted another kicking option, Im also guessing Akira gives them more versatility in back row, covers lock and 6/8 which they may prefer to keep as many big bodies on the field. We know Dalton is 6/7 but likely might use him as 7 only this time depending on injury

@bayimports actually that's a good point about the bench

if we have two guys that will probably play 80 in the loosies why two on the bench? One lock will sit down, and SB will shift. who else goes?

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@bayimports actually that's a good point about the bench

if we have two guys that will probably play 80 in the loosies why two on the bench? One lock will sit down, and SB will shift. who else goes?

the one who is carded of course

@bayimports said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

so i assume the presser hasn't happened

what does selection tell us?

Little change to the pack means the same tactics there i imagine.
Havili in means probably as much if not more kicking, just by someone else.

absolutely, my take is ST injured/Covid , Havili is the acknowledgement they wanted another at least one kicking option,

Fixed. Oh for the days when we had Carter and Dagg on the field.

@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

Taukei’aho didn't have the impact in the Ireland tests that he had last year. I can also understand them not starting Coles, who hasn't played much at all, this year. So in that light, starting Taylor makes a lot of sense. I don't think he's been as bad as people are posting here.

Yep almost seems some players are more effective against super defences etc huh Star?

You clearly didn't pay any attention to Taylor or Sami' in the last two games (or in all the games last year for that matter). I can therefore only conclude you aren't you aren't a true rugby man.

@Dice said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

If you watched the Warriors games you will see that Roger often made mistakes - and got pushed off in tackles. He has been the same with the Blues. So great attacking but has some issues. In such a big game it’s a big call.

For the Warriors RTS was generally covering for 12 dunderheads and having to account for most of the attacking metres for his side at the same time.

Yes that goes without saying. But if you look at when he played at the Roosters it was the same. The most noticeable is the grab tackle where he gets pushed off. It’s just a work on for him.

In general, his defense has been better than QT and Havili in SR despite having less experience than them.

Strangely, he is quite good at reads already. I thought that was going to be his biggest weakness on defense.

Yep he is not bad - our D was poor last week, we played a lot without the ball for various reasons. Hope we do better.

just a few thoughts, agree with others Samisoni should obviously be in the team, Extremely happy Fakatava remains in the side ditto Ross, Sotutu didn't feature this series I hope Dave Havili can bring his form from the final to the cake tin this Saturday & well Roger I wish him all the best!

@kev But who is he intended to sub for do you think? Haven’t seen much to suggest he’s an international standard centre to sub Reiko, and if he subs Havili has he got a decent positional kicking game?

@JC judging by DCs social media account, he keeps in good nick, could be another option...seriously though he seems to a bit of coaching and technique stuff, bring him in, Peter.Breen does.alot of good work re technique on Rugby Bricks too, not like these guys won't.have ideas

It's all been said but holy crap the two posters trying to claim ST hasn't been effective in the minutes he's played this series, I don't think I could possibly overstate how much better he is than Taylor in every single facet of the game.

@Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Crucial said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

We are complaining that our gameplan seems to rely on individual brilliance but then have two 10s that have always played that way.

I wonder if Perofeta, Zarn Sullivan or even David Havili might be better in those spots post World Cup.

Nope. I don't see a game manager anywhere there.

@Crucial said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Crucial said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

We are complaining that our gameplan seems to rely on individual brilliance but then have two 10s that have always played that way.

I wonder if Perofeta, Zarn Sullivan or even David Havili might be better in those spots post World Cup.

Nope. I don't see a game manager anywhere there.

From fullback Zarn certainly managed the first Maori Irish game with his boot

@Crucial Sullivan definitely has the potential. He needs time at 10.

@kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

If you watched the Warriors games you will see that Roger often made mistakes - and got pushed off in tackles. He has been the same with the Blues. So great attacking but has some issues. In such a big game it’s a big call.

I can (sadly) report that I watched every single one of RTS’s Warriors games. Yes I am tragic.

I think he reads the play well and is actually a better tackler when he goes low which is better for rugby as a 2nd 5 than a league fullback.

I’m interested in what the strategy is for his injection into the match. Barring injuries, when do they want him to come on.

Sometimes the big games need the big call

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@bayimports actually that's a good point about the bench

if we have two guys that will probably play 80 in the loosies why two on the bench? One lock will sit down, and SB will shift. who else goes?

In game one Cane subbed off didn't he?

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5. James Ryan (Leinster/UCD) 45 caps
6. Peter O'Mahony (Munster/Cork Constitution) 86 caps
7. Josh van der Flier (Leinster/UCD) 42 caps
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Crucial Sullivan definitely has the potential. He needs time at 10.

Yep, of the names mentioned he is a possibility. Pity he isn't playing 10 though and is unlikely to if he stays at the Blues.

@ACT-Crusader yeah he is a great player. The skill set for rugby is different. Just think he is being rushed.

@JC said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@kev But who is he intended to sub for do you think? Haven’t seen much to suggest he’s an international standard centre to sub Reiko, and if he subs Havili has he got a decent positional kicking game?

At this point he is only a 2nd five who can’t kick.

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

and coached
and served on the committee for a decade

but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

I think it’s hard to take you seriously when you have a profile pic that appears to be President Camacho!

I’ll pile in on the ST WTF? Aside from that, and it’s a big one - not like Taylor or Coles need more games, the 23 pretty much as I’d guess. I was sure RTS would get one go, the only thing is Sotutu, but the desire for BBSB in at 6 meant that would be the case

The Irish team listed like that just reiterates that they already have a ready-made provincial combination with Leinster. Put Ringrose back in, and the influence is even greater in the starting XV. Back to the Cantablacks of Mitchell and Deans.

@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

profile pic that appears to be President Camacho!

I'm Rick James bitch!

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

profile pic that appears to be President Camacho!

I'm Rick James bitch!

Haha I know but I always think

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

and coached
and served on the committee for a decade

but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

didn't realise that, which club?

NZ TAB odds:

NZ $1.25
IRE $4.00
Draw $21.00

9 point spread.

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

you should get down to club rugby and stand on sidelines in rain etc, gives you appreciation of what rugby is in real world.

lol fuck off

no nerve touched, i just wonder why people like you even come here?

Because I enjoy the sensible discussion about rugby when it's here. And although I not very good at getting across what I want and may seem harsh and everything , but I love the game and generally like talking to rugby people.
Mind you I will add of all the people who I know from rugby etc I am probably only one dumb enough to come into these forums lol, so perhaps that says something huh?

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

and coached
and served on the committee for a decade

but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

again I say who ever said that about you? As I say abit defensive there sunshine. lol
Seems I said I don't like the idea that we don't give due respect and kudos to Ireland (and othet teams) and that got you upset etc, so with all due respect to you if that upsets you I think it says more about you than me. I will just carry on just the same thanks.

@Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

NZ TAB odds:

NZ $1.25
IRE $4.00
Draw $21.00

9 point spread.

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Well there seems to be a few people on TSF picking the AB's to lose

Time for them to make same easy money. Bet big on Ireland. Post receipts.

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Crucial said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

and coached
and served on the committee for a decade

but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

Must be the impression you give

no, that impression of being a bombastic know-it-all but with little clue is actually real, but not because i have no clubland links

But someone who can only answer any criticism with insults , and not even at you , but as you were mate.

@Duluth I'm with you in that I think our players are too good for Ireland at home, despite our obvious issues under Foster. The fact Ireland only managed to score 23 points and beat us by 11 despite our red card and two yellows speaks volumes really, they just don't have enough points in them if we keep 15 players on the field.

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

If you watched the Warriors games you will see that Roger often made mistakes - and got pushed off in tackles. He has been the same with the Blues. So great attacking but has some issues. In such a big game it’s a big call.

I can (sadly) report that I watched every single one of RTS’s Warriors games. Yes I am tragic.

I think he reads the play well and is actually a better tackler when he goes low which is better for rugby as a 2nd 5 than a league fullback.

I’m interested in what the strategy is for his injection into the match. Barring injuries, when do they want him to come on.

Sometimes the big games need the big call

Interesting thing RTS was saying in an interview last week when discussing how hard he was finding game, he said in league he made probably 2 tackles a agme and finding extra work in union bloody tiring, as I never watch league, I was surprised.

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

For all the talk about New Zealand fans are very knowledgeable, I just checked out the comments section on Facebook.

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In fairness what did you expect to find on Facebook

@Duluth I think we will lose, won't be surprised if we win, but have never bet against the ABs, and don't intend starting....

@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

If you watched the Warriors games you will see that Roger often made mistakes - and got pushed off in tackles. He has been the same with the Blues. So great attacking but has some issues. In such a big game it’s a big call.

I can (sadly) report that I watched every single one of RTS’s Warriors games. Yes I am tragic.

I think he reads the play well and is actually a better tackler when he goes low which is better for rugby as a 2nd 5 than a league fullback.

I’m interested in what the strategy is for his injection into the match. Barring injuries, when do they want him to come on.

Sometimes the big games need the big call

Interesting thing RTS was saying in an interview last week when discussing how hard he was finding game, he said in league he made probably 2 tackles a agme and finding extra work in union bloody tiring, as I never watch league, I was surprised.

League fullbacks don’t make a lot of tackles because they are rarely in the line. The tackles they make are often scrambling.

Take last nights Origin, the two fullbacks had phenomenal games but the Qld fullback, Ponga who got player of the match only made 2 tackles and Tedesco is more of a physical style fullback made 5 tackles. That is in a game that had 600+ tackles made and about 100 missed tackles.