Foster, Robertson etc

Frank

@Crucial said in Foster must go:

Is this just a thread to vent? It’s a copy of every thread for the past year 😗

You must have mistaken this for the 'Above it All' thread.

canefan

@Stag said in Foster must go:

@Tim Schmidt and MacDonald

MacDonald was awesome outcoaching Razor in the SR final. Oh wait....

BartMan

@Stag was meaning at AB level he was not flash. He got 2 titles at the Chiefs in the background too, along with the 2 as head of the Crusaders, his only real head coaching success?

BartMan

@PecoTrain yes, maybe one nepotism appointment, after WINNING a RWC is acceptable. But after losing the semi,.it should have been a new broom sweeping clean. It wasn't, and we're now here, lowest point in AB rugby ever.

Marty

@No-Quarter said in Foster must go:

@Duluth said in Foster must go:

The realistic option is Schmidt

He starts his AB contract right now. So no other logistics needed.

Does he want a head coach role though?

My guess is he'd accept an interim role

@Machpants said in Foster must go:

So it's been brought up on the roar, there's a presser tomorrow 9 am, is that standard? I think it is but please tell me it's not

This will be the NZRU being super organised and naming the squad to tour SA 🙂 Got to get those tickets booked early to get the best deal.

NZ rugby....leading the way in getting value for money 🤣

gt12

I’m going to bet that one (Moaar) or maybe two (Moaar, Macleod) assistants get the ass, but that Fozzie stays on.

Will they even be that brave?

ACT Crusader

@PecoTrain welcome back fella. Foster has bought on a Fern reunion tonight!

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

I’m going to bet that one (Moaar) or maybe two (Moaar, Macleod) assistants get the ass, but that Fozzie stays on.

Will they even be that brave?

But Foster chose them. And he hasn't sought to replace them. So again, his decision making is called into question.

If the NZRU force him to change his assistants, what is to say the replacements fare any better if the man at the top is the handbrake?

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

I’m going to bet that one (Moaar) or maybe two (Moaar, Macleod) assistants get the ass, but that Fozzie stays on.

Will they even be that brave?

Didn't the Waikato/Chiefs fans used to say that Foster had his favourites and no matter how useless they played, they were nigh on undroppable?

He is loyal, at worst. With players and staff.

Deja vu.

gt12

@stodders said in Foster must go:

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

I’m going to bet that one (Moaar) or maybe two (Moaar, Macleod) assistants get the ass, but that Fozzie stays on.

Will they even be that brave?

But Foster chose them. And he hasn't sought to replace them. So again, his decision making is called into question.

If the NZRU force him to change his assistants, what is to say the replacements fare any better if the man at the top is the handbrake?

Firstly, I’m not defending Foster - he should go - but I’m also not convinced that NZ rugby will do the right thing. Robinson has run the place into the ground so I cant see them admitting they got the Foster appointment wrong. However, I wonder whether they think that a few assistant heads might keep the public happy.

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

@stodders said in Foster must go:

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

I’m going to bet that one (Moaar) or maybe two (Moaar, Macleod) assistants get the ass, but that Fozzie stays on.

Will they even be that brave?

But Foster chose them. And he hasn't sought to replace them. So again, his decision making is called into question.

If the NZRU force him to change his assistants, what is to say the replacements fare any better if the man at the top is the handbrake?

Firstly, I’m not defending Foster - he should go - but I’m also not convinced that NZ rugby will do the right thing. Robinson has run the place into the ground so I cant see them admitting they got the Foster appointment wrong. However, I wonder whether they think that a few assistant heads might keep the public happy.

Someone should get Steve Tew on the phone and give a penny for his thoughts 😁

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

@stodders said in Foster must go:

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

I’m going to bet that one (Moaar) or maybe two (Moaar, Macleod) assistants get the ass, but that Fozzie stays on.

Will they even be that brave?

But Foster chose them. And he hasn't sought to replace them. So again, his decision making is called into question.

If the NZRU force him to change his assistants, what is to say the replacements fare any better if the man at the top is the handbrake?

Firstly, I’m not defending Foster - he should go - but I’m also not convinced that NZ rugby will do the right thing. Robinson has run the place into the ground so I cant see them admitting they got the Foster appointment wrong. However, I wonder whether they think that a few assistant heads might keep the public happy.

Put the poll up on the Fern (given journos are on here getting free content 🤣).

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

@stodders said in Foster must go:

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

I’m going to bet that one (Moaar) or maybe two (Moaar, Macleod) assistants get the ass, but that Fozzie stays on.

Will they even be that brave?

But Foster chose them. And he hasn't sought to replace them. So again, his decision making is called into question.

If the NZRU force him to change his assistants, what is to say the replacements fare any better if the man at the top is the handbrake?

Firstly, I’m not defending Foster - he should go - but I’m also not convinced that NZ rugby will do the right thing. Robinson has run the place into the ground so I cant see them admitting they got the Foster appointment wrong. However, I wonder whether they think that a few assistant heads might keep the public happy.

It isn't the players. These are the best available to NZ.

It isn't COVID.

It isn't a lack of time together.

For whatever reason, the performances aren't improving. If Foster survives, the NZRU should be transparent and say why. Back their man and explain it. The All Blacks belong to NZ and the NZ public. Robinson et al need to remember that. Without the public and its support, there is no All Blacks.

canefan

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

@stodders said in Foster must go:

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

I’m going to bet that one (Moaar) or maybe two (Moaar, Macleod) assistants get the ass, but that Fozzie stays on.

Will they even be that brave?

But Foster chose them. And he hasn't sought to replace them. So again, his decision making is called into question.

If the NZRU force him to change his assistants, what is to say the replacements fare any better if the man at the top is the handbrake?

Firstly, I’m not defending Foster - he should go - but I’m also not convinced that NZ rugby will do the right thing. Robinson has run the place into the ground so I cant see them admitting they got the Foster appointment wrong. However, I wonder whether they think that a few assistant heads might keep the public happy.

In the NFL once a coach has his assistants removed against his will, it is the beginning the end. The players are not stupid. They know a lame duck coach when they see one

Jailbreak7

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

@stodders said in Foster must go:

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

I’m going to bet that one (Moaar) or maybe two (Moaar, Macleod) assistants get the ass, but that Fozzie stays on.

Will they even be that brave?

But Foster chose them. And he hasn't sought to replace them. So again, his decision making is called into question.

If the NZRU force him to change his assistants, what is to say the replacements fare any better if the man at the top is the handbrake?

Firstly, I’m not defending Foster - he should go - but I’m also not convinced that NZ rugby will do the right thing. Robinson has run the place into the ground so I cant see them admitting they got the Foster appointment wrong. However, I wonder whether they think that a few assistant heads might keep the public happy.

Thats a big fat No to just the assistants. They are all culpable as far as Im concerned. NZ rugby is rot\ten to the core and this needs - no - demands a complete clearout.

Catogrande

@stodders said in Foster must go:

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

@stodders said in Foster must go:

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

I’m going to bet that one (Moaar) or maybe two (Moaar, Macleod) assistants get the ass, but that Fozzie stays on.

Will they even be that brave?

But Foster chose them. And he hasn't sought to replace them. So again, his decision making is called into question.

If the NZRU force him to change his assistants, what is to say the replacements fare any better if the man at the top is the handbrake?

Firstly, I’m not defending Foster - he should go - but I’m also not convinced that NZ rugby will do the right thing. Robinson has run the place into the ground so I cant see them admitting they got the Foster appointment wrong. However, I wonder whether they think that a few assistant heads might keep the public happy.

Put the poll up on the Fern (given journos are on here getting free content 🤣).

I have a feeling any such poll will have a result like a Russian election.

gt12

@stodders said in Foster must go:

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

@stodders said in Foster must go:

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

I’m going to bet that one (Moaar) or maybe two (Moaar, Macleod) assistants get the ass, but that Fozzie stays on.

Will they even be that brave?

But Foster chose them. And he hasn't sought to replace them. So again, his decision making is called into question.

If the NZRU force him to change his assistants, what is to say the replacements fare any better if the man at the top is the handbrake?

Firstly, I’m not defending Foster - he should go - but I’m also not convinced that NZ rugby will do the right thing. Robinson has run the place into the ground so I cant see them admitting they got the Foster appointment wrong. However, I wonder whether they think that a few assistant heads might keep the public happy.

Put the poll up on the Fern (given journos are on here getting free content 🤣).

Good call. Done.

Catogrande

Sorry but it’s better in the long run for the rest of us if he stays. Go Fozzy go!

gt12

@Catogrande said in Will Foster go?:

Sorry but it’s better in the long run for the rest of us if he stays. Go Fozzy go!

Fuck you very much 🙂

Edit: the best money is on your vote though

@gt12 said in Will Foster go?:

Pick what you think will happen - not what you want to happen.

Cato...you Russian stooge 🤣

sparky

Can't see him going until after the 2023 RWC. I hope I'm wrong obviously.

canefan

@sparky said in Will Foster go?:

Can't see him going until after the 2019 RWC. I hope I'm wrong obviously.

Freudian slip?

sparky

@canefan Nay, it's hot as hell here and my cool drink hasn't kicked in yet.

sparky

Foster needs to be given the Red Card first thing on Monday morning.

@sparky said in Foster must go:

Foster needs to be given the Red Card first thing on Monday morning.

Why wait?

Donsteppa

Mark Robinson do something effective? I suppose there’s a first time for everything, but the odds aren’t great…

Victor Meldrew

I wonder if Sam Cane will step down as Captain and that will start something rolling.

Victor Meldrew

Full team will stay on until the SA Tests (maybe an Assistant will leave) but Schmidt gets more of a hand-on role.

@Victor-Meldrew said in Will Foster go?:

Full team will stay on until the SA Tests (maybe an Assistant will leave) but Schmidt gets more of a hand-on role.

Leave Foster in NZ to coach by Zoom. Worked a treat for test 1. May work again 😁

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

I wonder if Sam Cane will step down as Captain and that will start something rolling.

I can't see Cane resigning unless he truly feels that he isn't good enough to be the NZ no7. I've not seen any evidence of that.

Read was a shadow of his great self for the last 18 months of his career and didn't step aside.

There are now 12 or 13 tests between now and the world cup, aren't there?

That is enough time to give to a new coach to have a chance of putting his own stamp on the team and effecting a culture change.

But it has to be now. Not after SA or the 4N. If Foster is in place still after the 4N, you know that the NZRU have decided to ride it out, because it'll be too late to do anything at that point with only the EOYT and a couple of tests next year available.

remember the Amazon "all or nothing" documentary when Hansen asked should they put Rieko on the left wing instead of Julian Savea in training and fozzie replied " ahh its a dumb idea today".

Rieko went on to rip the lions apart.

Foster is completely and utterly incompetent.

nostrildamus

Question, has any AB captain in living memory given up the captaincy? (Not a dig at Cane, just curious).