Foster, Robertson etc

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

@stodders said in Foster must go:

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

I’m going to bet that one (Moaar) or maybe two (Moaar, Macleod) assistants get the ass, but that Fozzie stays on.

Will they even be that brave?

But Foster chose them. And he hasn't sought to replace them. So again, his decision making is called into question.

If the NZRU force him to change his assistants, what is to say the replacements fare any better if the man at the top is the handbrake?

Firstly, I’m not defending Foster - he should go - but I’m also not convinced that NZ rugby will do the right thing. Robinson has run the place into the ground so I cant see them admitting they got the Foster appointment wrong. However, I wonder whether they think that a few assistant heads might keep the public happy.

Put the poll up on the Fern (given journos are on here getting free content 🤣).

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

@stodders said in Foster must go:

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

I’m going to bet that one (Moaar) or maybe two (Moaar, Macleod) assistants get the ass, but that Fozzie stays on.

Will they even be that brave?

But Foster chose them. And he hasn't sought to replace them. So again, his decision making is called into question.

If the NZRU force him to change his assistants, what is to say the replacements fare any better if the man at the top is the handbrake?

Firstly, I’m not defending Foster - he should go - but I’m also not convinced that NZ rugby will do the right thing. Robinson has run the place into the ground so I cant see them admitting they got the Foster appointment wrong. However, I wonder whether they think that a few assistant heads might keep the public happy.

It isn't the players. These are the best available to NZ.

It isn't COVID.

It isn't a lack of time together.

For whatever reason, the performances aren't improving. If Foster survives, the NZRU should be transparent and say why. Back their man and explain it. The All Blacks belong to NZ and the NZ public. Robinson et al need to remember that. Without the public and its support, there is no All Blacks.

canefan

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

@stodders said in Foster must go:

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

I’m going to bet that one (Moaar) or maybe two (Moaar, Macleod) assistants get the ass, but that Fozzie stays on.

Will they even be that brave?

But Foster chose them. And he hasn't sought to replace them. So again, his decision making is called into question.

If the NZRU force him to change his assistants, what is to say the replacements fare any better if the man at the top is the handbrake?

Firstly, I’m not defending Foster - he should go - but I’m also not convinced that NZ rugby will do the right thing. Robinson has run the place into the ground so I cant see them admitting they got the Foster appointment wrong. However, I wonder whether they think that a few assistant heads might keep the public happy.

In the NFL once a coach has his assistants removed against his will, it is the beginning the end. The players are not stupid. They know a lame duck coach when they see one

Jailbreak7

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

@stodders said in Foster must go:

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

I’m going to bet that one (Moaar) or maybe two (Moaar, Macleod) assistants get the ass, but that Fozzie stays on.

Will they even be that brave?

But Foster chose them. And he hasn't sought to replace them. So again, his decision making is called into question.

If the NZRU force him to change his assistants, what is to say the replacements fare any better if the man at the top is the handbrake?

Firstly, I’m not defending Foster - he should go - but I’m also not convinced that NZ rugby will do the right thing. Robinson has run the place into the ground so I cant see them admitting they got the Foster appointment wrong. However, I wonder whether they think that a few assistant heads might keep the public happy.

Thats a big fat No to just the assistants. They are all culpable as far as Im concerned. NZ rugby is rot\ten to the core and this needs - no - demands a complete clearout.

Catogrande

@stodders said in Foster must go:

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

@stodders said in Foster must go:

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

I’m going to bet that one (Moaar) or maybe two (Moaar, Macleod) assistants get the ass, but that Fozzie stays on.

Will they even be that brave?

But Foster chose them. And he hasn't sought to replace them. So again, his decision making is called into question.

If the NZRU force him to change his assistants, what is to say the replacements fare any better if the man at the top is the handbrake?

Firstly, I’m not defending Foster - he should go - but I’m also not convinced that NZ rugby will do the right thing. Robinson has run the place into the ground so I cant see them admitting they got the Foster appointment wrong. However, I wonder whether they think that a few assistant heads might keep the public happy.

Put the poll up on the Fern (given journos are on here getting free content 🤣).

I have a feeling any such poll will have a result like a Russian election.

gt12

@stodders said in Foster must go:

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

@stodders said in Foster must go:

@gt12 said in Foster must go:

I’m going to bet that one (Moaar) or maybe two (Moaar, Macleod) assistants get the ass, but that Fozzie stays on.

Will they even be that brave?

But Foster chose them. And he hasn't sought to replace them. So again, his decision making is called into question.

If the NZRU force him to change his assistants, what is to say the replacements fare any better if the man at the top is the handbrake?

Firstly, I’m not defending Foster - he should go - but I’m also not convinced that NZ rugby will do the right thing. Robinson has run the place into the ground so I cant see them admitting they got the Foster appointment wrong. However, I wonder whether they think that a few assistant heads might keep the public happy.

Put the poll up on the Fern (given journos are on here getting free content 🤣).

Good call. Done.

Catogrande

Sorry but it’s better in the long run for the rest of us if he stays. Go Fozzy go!

gt12

@Catogrande said in Will Foster go?:

Sorry but it’s better in the long run for the rest of us if he stays. Go Fozzy go!

Fuck you very much 🙂

Edit: the best money is on your vote though

@gt12 said in Will Foster go?:

Pick what you think will happen - not what you want to happen.

Cato...you Russian stooge 🤣

sparky

Can't see him going until after the 2023 RWC. I hope I'm wrong obviously.

canefan

@sparky said in Will Foster go?:

Can't see him going until after the 2019 RWC. I hope I'm wrong obviously.

Freudian slip?

sparky

@canefan Nay, it's hot as hell here and my cool drink hasn't kicked in yet.

sparky

Foster needs to be given the Red Card first thing on Monday morning.

@sparky said in Foster must go:

Foster needs to be given the Red Card first thing on Monday morning.

Why wait?

Donsteppa

Mark Robinson do something effective? I suppose there’s a first time for everything, but the odds aren’t great…

Victor Meldrew

I wonder if Sam Cane will step down as Captain and that will start something rolling.

Victor Meldrew

Full team will stay on until the SA Tests (maybe an Assistant will leave) but Schmidt gets more of a hand-on role.

@Victor-Meldrew said in Will Foster go?:

Full team will stay on until the SA Tests (maybe an Assistant will leave) but Schmidt gets more of a hand-on role.

Leave Foster in NZ to coach by Zoom. Worked a treat for test 1. May work again 😁

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

I wonder if Sam Cane will step down as Captain and that will start something rolling.

I can't see Cane resigning unless he truly feels that he isn't good enough to be the NZ no7. I've not seen any evidence of that.

Read was a shadow of his great self for the last 18 months of his career and didn't step aside.

There are now 12 or 13 tests between now and the world cup, aren't there?

That is enough time to give to a new coach to have a chance of putting his own stamp on the team and effecting a culture change.

But it has to be now. Not after SA or the 4N. If Foster is in place still after the 4N, you know that the NZRU have decided to ride it out, because it'll be too late to do anything at that point with only the EOYT and a couple of tests next year available.

remember the Amazon "all or nothing" documentary when Hansen asked should they put Rieko on the left wing instead of Julian Savea in training and fozzie replied " ahh its a dumb idea today".

Rieko went on to rip the lions apart.

Foster is completely and utterly incompetent.

nostrildamus

Question, has any AB captain in living memory given up the captaincy? (Not a dig at Cane, just curious).

@stodders said in Foster must go:

@sparky said in Foster must go:

Foster needs to be given the Red Card first thing on Monday morning.

Why wait?

He might do the honourable thing and figuratively take the whiskey and the revolver to take the decision out of the hands of the idiots above him?

Billy Tell

When was the last time a coach of a major team (all sports) resigned without being pushed/fired??

Did Wayne smith resign?

@Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

When was the last time a coach of a major team (all sports) resigned without being pushed/fired??

Did Wayne smith resign?

Of course he did, he has both self awareness and honour

Billy Tell

@Machpants said in Foster must go:

@Billy-Tell said in Foster must go:

When was the last time a coach of a major team (all sports) resigned without being pushed/fired??

Did Wayne smith resign?

Of course he did, he has both self awareness and honour

From memory it was more he had self-doubts, no?

Victor Meldrew

@stodders said in Foster must go:

@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go:

I wonder if Sam Cane will step down as Captain and that will start something rolling.

I can't see Cane resigning unless he truly feels that he isn't good enough to be the NZ no7. I've not seen any evidence of that.

Read was a shadow of his great self for the last 18 months of his career and didn't step aside.

He's a proud bloke who always gives his all. He'll be hurting and poss.thinking he's let people down. Just wondering if he's thinking of tossing the captain's armband to someone else

nzzp

Someone said there was an 0900 press conference this morning. Anyone got any sauce?

Also, continuing the theme, autocorrect press went to pies. Go Foster

sparky

@nzzp said in Foster must go:

Someone said there was an 0900 press conference this morning. Anyone got any sauce?

Also, continuing the theme, autocorrect press went to pies. Go Foster

Press Conference will be for Foster to announce he ate three tubs of ice cream last night.

taniwharugby

@nzzp well last night I bailed an an AB game at half time, I think I kinda.did that once before.but wasn't a tier 1 opposition and our score was mounting.

That performance last night, well the 40 mins I saw was probably the worst half of rugby from us I can recall for a very long time, if ever.

Our defence.has awful since McLeod took over, our attack is predictable.

We have lost 4 of our last 5 tests, and highly likely we will be 1 from 7 after visiting SA.

Sure the players are the ones out there missing the tackles, dropping the passes etc but these guys haven't become shit since leaving.thier super sides.

So it falls on the coaching team, we lack a clear game plan, or at least one the players can execute, because they look lost.

And as such this is when they start making uncharacteristic errors, due no no clarity around roles, around what they are trying to achieve, this affects confidence too.

Is there a.coaching team that can step in right now should Fozzie do the decent thing? Cos it has to.be a.sweep, not just him.

What time is the press conference?

@taniwharugby

The defence is the area which has looked substandard and I have talked about it before here at length.

I am no rugby tactician at all however it is clear to see that our defense has been too passive and allows a team like Ireland to control a game while making easy metres upfield.

We do not employ a rush defence, which is weird as we know how disruptive it is. We also don’t turn the ball over enough when defending to take advantage of our broken play ability.

The ABs have been praised at times for their defensive work in stopping teams for long period on our goal line and with men off the field.

I don’t think this is the system working, more a case of players scrambling like hell to stay in the game. Which drains them completely. I don’t think it’s them trusting a system to repel attacks.

We had no answer to Ireland intricate attack today. Literally none for a couple of tries.

We are playing outdated rugby and we have been found out big time.

taniwharugby

@DaGrubster in some ways its easier to defend your line in those situations than further down the park as opposition options are slightly limited too.

Yeah I've wondered for a long time why we haven't used the rush defence: if you can't beat em, join em.

Everything about our game is passive and screams what should we do: what we are doing isn't working but we will keep trying it cos it used to work.

@DaGrubster hang on a sec, let's not pretend our attack is anything but pathetic. How were our tries constructed? How did we maintain possession and get ourselves into attacking positions on the field? How did we create overlaps and mismatches?

@reprobate

Oh I hear ya. It’s just our defence has been a big bear of mine for a while now!

Our attack being poor is a fairly new phenomenon tbf.

But we do look like we run out of ideas fairly quickly.

There is so much wrong in this side at the moment. Even their haircuts are shit

broughie

Missed the game. Wake me up the fire the fool.

taniwharugby

@Donsteppa said in Will Foster go?:

Mark Robinson do something effective? I suppose there’s a first time for everything, but the odds aren’t great…

Well it's been a week or firsts for the ABs, Robinson will no doubt want in.on that action.

Donsteppa

For a long time there was a "Has Transmission Gully opened yet?" Twitter account. It might be a daily question about whether Ian Foster has resigned yet...

booboo

@mofitzy_ said in Foster must go:

@MajorRage
The fans get a say when they actually do something instead of moan on the internet and talk radio.

Storm NZR HQ? All we've got is moaning on the internet and talk radio