EPL 2022 / 2023

@KiwiPie Bournemouths upset win against Liverpool came at the right time. Played very well against Arsenal for no points, so hopefully a lot of confidence coming from both. Cant pick bottom three right now however happy we have a game in hand over Everton and Wolves on that list as every opportunity is crucial.

Hopefully we get to see our 30m Ukrainian defender for the first time next week as well

@bayimports A very amusing result for everyone except Liverpool fans. Bournemouth seemed to be getting a lot of joy from the ball over the top. Salah's penalty miss was bizarre - he was so far wide, you wonder where he was aiming.

Any of those 9 teams that can get 4 more wins should stay up, 3 wins might be enough.

These games happen on the final day.
Palace v Forest
Everton v Bournemouth
Leicester v West Ham
with
Arsenal v Wolves
Leeds v Spurs
Southampton v Liverpool

@KiwiPie said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

@bayimports A very amusing result for everyone except Liverpool fans. Bournemouth seemed to be getting a lot of joy from the ball over the top. Salah's penalty miss was bizarre - he was so far wide, you wonder where he was aiming.

as the joke goes ... from 7up to coke zero

I can't remember the last time all three relegation spots were so open this late. Bad memory maybe, but feels like there's normally at least one team that are having a mare and are a dozen points or so off the pace.

Trossard with a hatrick of assists vs Fulham, not bad for a guy who Arsenal weren't even planning to sign at the start of the window. Their recruitment has been incredible lately, really doing a great job of getting valuable contributors without resetting the market. Be interesting to see what their summer recruitment strategy looks like.

@Cyclops Yeah, I was surprised and happy to see Trossard playing today. A nice 15 min cameo from Jesus as well.

@Cyclops hopefully Arsenal they add to the defensive midfield/midfield someone in the mound of Partey. Boy he is composed and I would say there most valuable player. I think they have enough players that can score.

@broughie

I saw some rumours a month or so back that Aresnal were planning to make a run at Declan Rice over the summer.

Yes, Rice will be the no.1 target. He can then stay in London.

Tierney might be heading the other way as Newcastle is keen.

@Cyclops in I think he would be a good signing. Whether they can sign them or not, it's another story. My wish list is Camavinga but a pipe dream.

Erling Haaland scores goals. Up to 40 for the season now, and still a ton of games to go. Sets the City record, but even further to go to the overall record, which is 73 (Messi).

Is this finally the year that City get a champions league title?

Patrick Vieria sacked as Crystal Palace boss.

10 EPL sides, half the league, have changed their manager since the end of last season.

Haaland in the goals again. A brace so far against Burnley in the FA Cup Quarter Final. 40 goals this season.

Haaland with another hat-trick.

Fulham 1-0 up on United and in control - handball on the line and red card for Willian, red for Mitrovic in the aftermath and red for Marco Silva for good measure. Out of the cup and could be season over for stupidity.

@KiwiPie

Haven't seen the cards incident, but until then it seems Fulham were in control.

Stupid wqy to piss away a season.

We had n 'easy' run of games coming up with a chance to get back in the race for Europe which is now shot.

PL safety and a FA Cup QF any Fulham fan would have taken that back in the summer but could have been even better.

Next transfer season is critical. Our shallow depth has been exposed recently Plus it seems the big sharks are circling our squad.

FA Cup Semis

Manchester City v Sheffield United
Brighton v Manchester United

First ever Mancunian FA Cup final?

@KiwiPie Probably, although Brighton might well trip up Manure.

lol at Conte trying to get himself sacked rather than resign and miss a chunk of money

it's a pretty spectacular rant.

Problem for Spurs is, was he actually wrong?

@mariner4life said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

lol at Conte trying to get himself sacked rather than resign and miss a chunk of money

it's a pretty spectacular rant.

Problem for Spurs is, was he actually wrong?

A lot of it was right on the nose. But he is part of the problem right now. He's lost the dressing room.

There seems to be no set plan in terms of buying and selling players. We need central defenders so we buy attacking midfielders? Bewildering, I think it suggests Daniel Levy is still having too much to say about that

@KiwiPie
Seen it now. All three reds to Fulham were warranted

Silva would be an even better Manager if he reined in the histrionics

Yes Fulham has a history with this ref. He had a shocker when we lost at West Ham and I reckon we should have had a pen in the first half at Old Trafford but those are no excuses for what happened

Instead of calming things down Silva ignited everything. A 10 man Fulham at 1-1 could still have gone through. Instead Silva basically egged on Mitros sense of injustice

How long might we lose him for? Months?

Good job we are clear of relegation dogfight as our season has been screwed by 90 seconds of madness

@dogmeat That reaction must have been fueled by previous incidents as the Willian incident was pretty clear cut once it hits his arm. Smart play by Sancho for dithering as the goal was still scored plus a bonus 2 man advantage. As you say, Silva should have been calming his team down.

@dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

@KiwiPie
Seen it now. All three reds to Fulham were warranted

Silva would be an even better Manager if he reined in the histrionics

Yes Fulham has a history with this ref. He had a shocker when we lost at West Ham and I reckon we should have had a pen in the first half at Old Trafford but those are no excuses for what happened

Instead of calming things down Silva ignited everything. A 10 man Fulham at 1-1 could still have gone through. Instead Silva basically egged on Mitros sense of injustice

How long might we lose him for? Months?

Good job we are clear of relegation dogfight as our season has been screwed by 90 seconds of madness

Well Bournemouth need all the luck they can get, so having some players missing for that match due to suspension suits me

Yes and you're well clear

In news that will shock nobody, Conte has left Spurs by mutual agreement.

@Bovidae said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

In news that will shock nobody, Conte has left Spurs by mutual agreement.

That took a week longer than expected - he was probably making sure he got a massive pay-off before agreeing. So that's 10/20 clubs have a different manager from the start of the season and Moyes & Rogers are barely hanging on.

Meanwhile in the only league that matters, Notts are 2nd favourites to gain automatic promotion.

But they are guaranteed to be in the top 2, it is ludicrous that they may have to go into the play-offs with teams 30 points behind them. Langstaff has 39 goals for Notts, no penalties.

Potter and Rogers sacked.

Neither a large surprise.

@MajorRage

Rodgers would have gone earlier if Leicester could afford it wouldn't he?

Some sympathy for Potter. Chelsea are a mess. Absolute scattergun approach to recruitment. Bloated squad roster, full of ego's and expensive journeymen. How do you keep them all happy or impose a style or system.

Wrong coach for that club. They're like Spurs. What Manager in their right mind would go near them - except for the money of course.

Boehly will want a 'name' to placate the fans but is more likely to get an ambitious younger Manager with something to prove.

@dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

@MajorRage

Rodgers would have gone earlier if Leicester could afford it wouldn't he?

Some sympathy for Potter. Chelsea are a mess. Absolute scattergun approach to recruitment. Bloated squad roster, full of ego's and expensive journeymen. How do you keep them all happy or impose a style or system.

Wrong coach for that club. They're like Spurs. What Manager in their right mind would go near them - except for the money of course.

Boehly will want a 'name' to placate the fans but is more likely to get an ambitious younger Manager with something to prove.

Leicester are suffering a bit from mean reversion.

They've had a great run, but reality is that at some point, it's going to run out. Rogers had done a decent enough job, but they simply didn't have the cattle required to maintain the top half of the table. They aren't doing that bad, it's just that the relegation battle is unbelievably tight this year.

As for Potter, well it was inevitable unfortunately.

I watched the full Chelsea match yesterday and scoreboard aside, they completely dominated. they just lacked the tooth in front of goal & made some terrible defensive errors. But they lost 2-0. And it's just too many times.

We've spunked stupid money on players with no return. It can't go on.

No idea why anybody will take it on now. A mismatched expensive squad down on the confidence it takes to win games. Perhaps Pochettino, who I'd like to see, but I suspect he'll be back at Spurs. I think Boehly will go after somebody stupid like Zidane, who I think would be a terrible appointment

And as an outside chance, Rogers.

@MajorRage said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

I think Boehly will go after somebody stupid like Zidane

or Nagelsmann

I don't think Zidane would go near it, but agree it would be a catastrophe - although very amusing for a Fulham fan.

de Zerbi?

@dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

@MajorRage said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

I think Boehly will go after somebody stupid like Zidane

or Nagelsmann

I don't think Zidane would go near it, but agree it would be a catastrophe - although very amusing for a Fulham fan.

de Zerbi?

Nagelsmann is hotly tipped, but I know too little of him to garner an opinion.

Zidane won't be interested if Chelsea aren't in the CL. That would apply to other big name managers too.

Not EPL, but Bayern München go back to the top in the Bundesliga. This means Kingsley Coman has a chance to continue his incredible streak. Every season of his career as a senior pro, he's won the league title.

Now that's not that remarkable given Bayern's dominance in Germany and other examples in other leagues (must be a fair few guys who debuted for Celtic during their recent streak and who won up to 9 in a row to start their career for example). What makes his record kind of crazy is that he's done it in three different leagues - Ligue 1 (PSG), Serie a (Juventus) and the Bundesliga.

I thought that was a fun piece of trivia.

As if Zidane would go near the Chelsea job haha.

Maybe Conte could return or as was mentioned, Pochettino?

No doubt clubs near the bottom will be lining up for Potter now. He's a decent manager, but Chelsea as a whole are an absolute mess from top to bottom right now.

@bayimports said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

@dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

@KiwiPie
Seen it now. All three reds to Fulham were warranted

Silva would be an even better Manager if he reined in the histrionics

Yes Fulham has a history with this ref. He had a shocker when we lost at West Ham and I reckon we should have had a pen in the first half at Old Trafford but those are no excuses for what happened

Instead of calming things down Silva ignited everything. A 10 man Fulham at 1-1 could still have gone through. Instead Silva basically egged on Mitros sense of injustice

How long might we lose him for? Months?

Good job we are clear of relegation dogfight as our season has been screwed by 90 seconds of madness

Well Bournemouth need all the luck they can get, so having some players missing for that match due to suspension suits me

Yes and you're well clear

and looks like we took our luck. Fulham started stronger for sure, but we kicked into action when our subs came on. Nice to have Tav back from injury and immediate impact. Not sure if we win that if Fulham were full strength, but any points right now crucial.

Also big result for the Hammers last night, you would probably think Southampton first buried now although still cant be 100% sure. Picking the other two still too difficult. Even Palace holding 12th must still be nervous

Palace Currently 12th - 30 points Safe
Leeds (A), Southampton (A), Everton (H), Wolves (A), West Ham (H), Spurs (A), Bournemouth (H), Fulham (A), Forest (H)

Wolves 13th - 28 Squeaky Bum
Chelsea (H), Brentford (H), Leicester (A), Palace (H), Brighton (A), Villa (H), Man Utd (A), Everton (H), Arsenal (A)

West Ham 14th - 27 Should just scrape through
Newcastle (H), Fulham (A), Arsenal (H), Bournemouth (A), Liverpool (H), Palace (A), Man Utd (H), Brentford (A), Leeds (A), Leicester (A)

Forest 15th - 27 Minor Miracle Required
Leeds (A), Aston Villa (A), Man Utd (H), Liverpool (A), Brighton (H), Brentford (A), Southampton (H), Chelsea (A), Arsenal (H), Crystal Palace (A)

Bournemouth 16th - 27 Easier run should mean safety
Brighton & Hove Albion (H), Leicester (A), Tottenham (A), West Ham (H), Southampton (A), Leeds (H),
Chelsea (H), Crystal Palace (A), Man Utd (H), Everton (A)

Leeds 17th - 26 Others should be worse but...
Nottingham Forest (H), Crystal Palace (H), Liverpool (H), Fulham (A), Leicester (H), Bournemouth (A), Man City (A), Newcastle (H), West Ham (A), Tottenham (H)

Everton 18th - 26 Can Dyche do it - probably not, but he's given them a chance
Chelsea (A), Tottenham (H), Man Utd (A), Fulham (H), Crystal Palace (A), Newcastle (H), Leicester (A), Brighton & Hove Albion (A), Man City (H), Wolves (A), Bournemouth (H)

Leicester 19th - 25 Serious New Manager Bounce Required
Brentford (A), Crystal Palace (A), Aston Villa (H), Bournemouth (H), Man City (A), Wolves (H), Leeds (A),
Everton (H), Fulham (A), Liverpool (H), Newcastle (A), West Ham (H)

Southampton 20th -23 Doomed
Brentford (H), Tottenham (H), West Ham (A), Manchester City (H), Crystal Palace (H), Arsenal (A), Bournemouth (H), Newcastle (A), Nottingham Forest (A), Fulham (H), Brighton (A), Liverpool (H),

Are there now more sacked managers than not this season?

@antipodean 12 I think in EPL but only 10 clubs - plus Brighton who replaced Potter.

Moyesand Cooper are, I think, the only Manager's of a bottom 10 team that were there when the season kicked off.

Still a good chance West Ham will pull the trigger...

@dogmeat said in EPL 2022 / 2023:

@antipodean 12 I think in EPL but only 10 clubs - plus Brighton who replaced Potter.

Moyesand Cooper are, I think, the only Manager's of a bottom 10 team that were there when the season kicked off.

Still a good chance West Ham will pull the trigger...

Surprised Moyes is still holding on

@dogmeat I think you are pretty close with those predictions, I think Palace are also in the squeaky bum category though, as although draw looks good, they don't have any real form and like Southampton have the least games in hand

Going to come down to the last day for sure!