Not a chance Tony Brown comes back to work with Razor. The only way he was ever coaching the ABs was with Jamie Joseph, and the ABs elected to go in a different direction.
Razor I said was the right appointment, but hindsight may end up telling us, that a Joseph-Brown ticket was possibly stronger, and at the very least Razor would have benefitted from time away before taking the ABs job.
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Not a chance Tony Brown comes back to work with Razor. The only way he was ever coaching the ABs was with Jamie Joseph, and the ABs elected to go in a different direction.
Razor I said was the right appointment, but hindsight may end up telling us, that a Joseph-Brown ticket was possibly stronger, and at the very least Razor would have benefitted from time away before taking the ABs job.
The only way that question is answered is if Joseph and Brown end up coaching the ABs
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:
NZR leadership looking like idiots. Not only have they alienated their core supporters, but they have made the French Rugby authorities look more sensible and in touch with reality than themselves. I'd call the NZR leadership clowns, but clowns are sometimes funny.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@nzzp Rieko has signed until the World Cup. Will likely have a sabbatical in there at some point.
The French love a crash ball merchant.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:
NZR leadership looking like idiots. Not only have they alienated their core supporters, but they have made the French Rugby authorities look more sensible and in touch with reality than themselves. I'd call the NZR leadership clowns, but clowns are sometimes funny.
The French are hardly good faith actors, owing ARU about $2 million, sending a weakened squad our way.
You've missed my point.
They know not to piss off their own fans and they are brilliant at raising revenue. French home games sell out quickly and their recent game against the All Blacks was the most watched Rugby game on TV in France ever.
They are super shrewd and I like to see a lot more of that from the people running the game in NZ.
The test schedule will be released on Tuesday. As Paul Cully says in his article, Hamilton getting a French test would be overdue.
The unbeaten streak at Eden Park will also be on the line against SA, if France don't play there.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae France and Boks both could be at Eden Park
Will be you would expect, first French game probably
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae France and Boks both could be at Eden Park
You'd hope so. Both genuine tier one nations that we haven't beaten in a while. As @Bovidae pointed out the streak could genuinely be on the line, particularly against the Boks. And one would maturely have to acknowledge that it would come to an end at some point.
Not me though. I'll be burning effigies and calling for the guillotine.
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
Boks v ABs at Eden Park, everything will be on the line.
You would think that Rassie will prioritise the assault on Eden Park as the last remaining citadels for him to conquer.
We need to win those two games in Nz to establish a new world order.
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
Should we lose these two a coaching shakeup would surely be on the cards.
Bring in Foster as backs coach.
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
O'Halloran is out of coaching due to health issues.
O'Halloran is back coaching with the Blues.
All Blacks Domestic Schedule
July Series
v France, Saturday 5 July, 7.05pm, Forsyth Barr Stadium, DUNEDIN
v France, Saturday 12 July, 7.05pm, Sky Stadium, WELLINGTON
v France, Saturday 19 July, 7.05pm, FMG Stadium Waikato, HAMILTON
Lipovitan-D Rugby Championship
v South Africa, Saturday 6 September, 7.05pm, Eden Park, AUCKLAND *Freedom Cup
v South Africa, Saturday 13 September, 7.05pm, Sky Stadium, WELLINGTON *Freedom Cup
v Australia, Saturday 27 September, 5.05pm, Eden Park, AUCKLAND *Bledisloe Cup
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
All Blacks Domestic Schedule
July Series
v France, Saturday 5 July, 7.05pm, Forsyth Barr Stadium, DUNEDIN
v France, Saturday 12 July, 7.05pm, Sky Stadium, WELLINGTON
v France, Saturday 19 July, 7.05pm, FMG Stadium Waikato, HAMILTONLipovitan-D Rugby Championship
v South Africa, Saturday 6 September, 7.05pm, Eden Park, AUCKLAND *Freedom Cup
v South Africa, Saturday 13 September, 7.05pm, Sky Stadium, WELLINGTON *Freedom Cup
v Australia, Saturday 27 September, 5.05pm, Eden Park, AUCKLAND *Bledisloe Cup
Two awesome tests in Welly, will try and attend both.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
Two awesome tests in Welly, will try and attend both.
IIRC Wellington has a current contract to have two tests each year.
I'll definitely go to the French test in Hamilton. I haven't bothered in recent years as it's always Argentina. The first time France will have played here since the 1961 tour.
Whilst the optics are bad I can understand why NZR were exploring shifting a test to the US considering Chch don't yet have a proper stadium and Yarrow Stadium is being rebuilt too - especially as France B are unlikely to pack the stadiums.
I suspect multiple non sell outs for the French series.
So Scotland is going to play the NZ Maori in Whangarei but no Test match? Scotland hasn't played a Test in NZ since 2000
I wonder if that means it will not be a full strength Scottish side
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:
So Scotland is going to play the NZ Maori in Whangarei but no Test match? Scotland hasn't played a Test in NZ since 2000
I wonder if that means it will not be a full strength Scottish side
It won't be as the BIL tour is on at the same time. They play NSW on the same day.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
v Australia, Saturday 27 September, 5.05pm, Eden Park, AUCKLAND *Bledisloe Cup
Like the time
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
Hoping France bring a decent squad to NZ in July.
They're resting their top team's players, so they are not
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
Hoping France bring a decent squad to NZ in July.
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
Razor is banking on the Saders to be back to their best in 2025 and that there will be a few players making a breakout seasons. Just my thoughts. Saders are seldom as bad as 2024, and they still have a lot of developing players coming through with a point to prove.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
All Blacks Domestic Schedule
July Series
v France, Saturday 5 July, 7.05pm, Forsyth Barr Stadium, DUNEDIN
v France, Saturday 12 July, 7.05pm, Sky Stadium, WELLINGTON
v France, Saturday 19 July, 7.05pm, FMG Stadium Waikato, HAMILTONLipovitan-D Rugby Championship
v South Africa, Saturday 6 September, 7.05pm, Eden Park, AUCKLAND *Freedom Cup
v South Africa, Saturday 13 September, 7.05pm, Sky Stadium, WELLINGTON *Freedom Cup
v Australia, Saturday 27 September, 5.05pm, Eden Park, AUCKLAND *Bledisloe Cup
And we might even get semi decent beer at the stadium, fuck yes please!
We will see what that means in practice. There is a French expression "On dit une chose en faire une autre." Basically, say one thing but do another.
Let's hope that's the case.
Several months to go and it wouldn't surprise me if the French bring some (or indeed most) of their top players to NZ.
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
Hoping France bring a decent squad to NZ in July.
I hope they do send an under strength team and we pummel them.
But it's going to be embarrassing if we do lose.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:
So Scotland is going to play the NZ Maori in Whangarei but no Test match? Scotland hasn't played a Test in NZ since 2000
I wonder if that means it will not be a full strength Scottish side
It won't be as the BIL tour is on at the same time. They play NSW on the same day.
Normally Scotland get a couple of consolation players in the Lions so the MÄoris may face a pretty strong line up!
Although, the make up of the Lions next year suddenly doesnāt look so green. Maybe Ireland, Scots and England will have a fair share between them?
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks 2025:
So the Eden Park record will stand for 31 years.
Well the record is going to fall one day.
The Boks will see it like a World Cup final.
Time for Razor and his team to become a win at all costs All Blacks side and protect the proud record.
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:
@Donsteppa said in All Blacks 2025:
So the Eden Park record will stand for 31 years.
Well the record is going to fall one day.
The Boks will see it like a World Cup final.
Time for Razor and his team to become a win at all costs All Blacks side and protect the proud record.
I actually think the fear of losing is a decent part of the reason for Robertson's overly conservative selections, and Foster before him. It's holding us back.
@reprobate and somewhat ironically for Razor, the emergence of Sititi is a counter point to his conservatism.
Can't recall if anyone under Fozzies tenure had such an impact in thier debut season, probably Samisoni?
if there's a human brain behind your thoughts I think It's the opposite to what you have said really, the Chay Fihaki's & Blackadders of this world have the easy pathway, it's the Emoni Narawa's, Sotutu & Tavatavanawai's with the point to prove to Razor