All Blacks 2025

antipodean

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

@Bovidae France and Boks both could be at Eden Park

You'd hope so. Both genuine tier one nations that we haven't beaten in a while. As @Bovidae pointed out the streak could genuinely be on the line, particularly against the Boks. And one would maturely have to acknowledge that it would come to an end at some point.

Not me though. I'll be burning effigies and calling for the guillotine.

Boks v ABs at Eden Park, everything will be on the line.

@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

Boks v ABs at Eden Park, everything will be on the line.

You would think that Rassie will prioritise the assault on Eden Park as the last remaining citadels for him to conquer.

We need to win those two games in Nz to establish a new world order.

Should we lose these two a coaching shakeup would surely be on the cards.

Bones

@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

Should we lose these two a coaching shakeup would surely be on the cards.

Bring in Foster as backs coach.

KiwiMurph

@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

O'Halloran is out of coaching due to health issues.

O'Halloran is back coaching with the Blues.

Well anyone watching J Barrett’s debut for Leinster, turns out he can pass. Must help not having an epileptic dog on roller skates and someone who can pass on his inside

Bovidae

All Blacks Domestic Schedule

July Series
v France, Saturday 5 July, 7.05pm, Forsyth Barr Stadium, DUNEDIN
v France, Saturday 12 July, 7.05pm, Sky Stadium, WELLINGTON
v France, Saturday 19 July, 7.05pm, FMG Stadium Waikato, HAMILTON

Lipovitan-D Rugby Championship
v South Africa, Saturday 6 September, 7.05pm, Eden Park, AUCKLAND *Freedom Cup
v South Africa, Saturday 13 September, 7.05pm, Sky Stadium, WELLINGTON *Freedom Cup
v Australia, Saturday 27 September, 5.05pm, Eden Park, AUCKLAND *Bledisloe Cup

Canes4life

@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

All Blacks Domestic Schedule

July Series
v France, Saturday 5 July, 7.05pm, Forsyth Barr Stadium, DUNEDIN
v France, Saturday 12 July, 7.05pm, Sky Stadium, WELLINGTON
v France, Saturday 19 July, 7.05pm, FMG Stadium Waikato, HAMILTON

Lipovitan-D Rugby Championship
v South Africa, Saturday 6 September, 7.05pm, Eden Park, AUCKLAND *Freedom Cup
v South Africa, Saturday 13 September, 7.05pm, Sky Stadium, WELLINGTON *Freedom Cup
v Australia, Saturday 27 September, 5.05pm, Eden Park, AUCKLAND *Bledisloe Cup

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Two awesome tests in Welly, will try and attend both.

Bovidae

@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

Two awesome tests in Welly, will try and attend both.

IIRC Wellington has a current contract to have two tests each year.

I'll definitely go to the French test in Hamilton. I haven't bothered in recent years as it's always Argentina. The first time France will have played here since the 1961 tour.

KiwiMurph

Whilst the optics are bad I can understand why NZR were exploring shifting a test to the US considering Chch don't yet have a proper stadium and Yarrow Stadium is being rebuilt too - especially as France B are unlikely to pack the stadiums.

I suspect multiple non sell outs for the French series.

Duluth

So Scotland is going to play the NZ Maori in Whangarei but no Test match? Scotland hasn't played a Test in NZ since 2000

I wonder if that means it will not be a full strength Scottish side

Bovidae

@Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

So Scotland is going to play the NZ Maori in Whangarei but no Test match? Scotland hasn't played a Test in NZ since 2000

I wonder if that means it will not be a full strength Scottish side

It won't be as the BIL tour is on at the same time. They play NSW on the same day.

Donsteppa

So the Eden Park record will stand for 31 years.

booboo

@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

v Australia, Saturday 27 September, 5.05pm, Eden Park, AUCKLAND *Bledisloe Cup

Like the time

sparky

Hoping France bring a decent squad to NZ in July.

@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

Hoping France bring a decent squad to NZ in July.

They're resting their top team's players, so they are not

Razor is banking on the Saders to be back to their best in 2025 and that there will be a few players making a breakout seasons. Just my thoughts. Saders are seldom as bad as 2024, and they still have a lot of developing players coming through with a point to prove.

gt12

@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

Razor is banking on the Saders to be back to their best in 2025 and that there will be a few players making a breakout seasons. Just my thoughts. Saders are seldom as bad as 2024, and they still have a lot of developing players coming through with a point to prove.

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@SBW1 are you actually a crusaders AI bot šŸ¤” if there's a human brain behind your thoughts I think It's the opposite to what you have said really, the Chay Fihaki's & Blackadders of this world have the easy pathway, it's the Emoni Narawa's, Sotutu & Tavatavanawai's with the point to prove to Razor

Time will tell Up the Saders. Chiefs, Blues and Landers look to have added to their coaching stock.

@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

All Blacks Domestic Schedule

July Series
v France, Saturday 5 July, 7.05pm, Forsyth Barr Stadium, DUNEDIN
v France, Saturday 12 July, 7.05pm, Sky Stadium, WELLINGTON
v France, Saturday 19 July, 7.05pm, FMG Stadium Waikato, HAMILTON

Lipovitan-D Rugby Championship
v South Africa, Saturday 6 September, 7.05pm, Eden Park, AUCKLAND *Freedom Cup
v South Africa, Saturday 13 September, 7.05pm, Sky Stadium, WELLINGTON *Freedom Cup
v Australia, Saturday 27 September, 5.05pm, Eden Park, AUCKLAND *Bledisloe Cup

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And we might even get semi decent beer at the stadium, fuck yes please!

sparky

@Machpants

We will see what that means in practice. There is a French expression "On dit une chose en faire une autre." Basically, say one thing but do another.

Let's hope that's the case.

sparky

@Kiwiwomble

Several months to go and it wouldn't surprise me if the French bring some (or indeed most) of their top players to NZ.

@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

@Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

So Scotland is going to play the NZ Maori in Whangarei but no Test match? Scotland hasn't played a Test in NZ since 2000

I wonder if that means it will not be a full strength Scottish side

It won't be as the BIL tour is on at the same time. They play NSW on the same day.

Normally Scotland get a couple of consolation players in the Lions so the Māoris may face a pretty strong line up!

Although, the make up of the Lions next year suddenly doesn’t look so green. Maybe Ireland, Scots and England will have a fair share between them?

@Donsteppa said in All Blacks 2025:

So the Eden Park record will stand for 31 years.

Well the record is going to fall one day.

The Boks will see it like a World Cup final.

Time for Razor and his team to become a win at all costs All Blacks side and protect the proud record.

@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

@Donsteppa said in All Blacks 2025:

So the Eden Park record will stand for 31 years.

Well the record is going to fall one day.

The Boks will see it like a World Cup final.

Time for Razor and his team to become a win at all costs All Blacks side and protect the proud record.

I actually think the fear of losing is a decent part of the reason for Robertson's overly conservative selections, and Foster before him. It's holding us back.

taniwharugby

@reprobate and somewhat ironically for Razor, the emergence of Sititi is a counter point to his conservatism.

Can't recall if anyone under Fozzies tenure had such an impact in thier debut season, probably Samisoni?

Snowy

@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

Does anyone think Razor will change his coaching staff before 2027?

We would be relying on coaches getting injured, so, unlikely.

Kiwiwomble

@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

@Kiwiwomble

Several months to go and it wouldn't surprise me if the French bring some (or indeed most) of their top players to NZ.

...just over 2 months

@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

@Donsteppa said in All Blacks 2025:

So the Eden Park record will stand for 31 years.

Well the record is going to fall one day.

The Boks will see it like a World Cup final.

Time for Razor and his team to become a win at all costs All Blacks side and protect the proud record.

I actually think the fear of losing is a decent part of the reason for Robertson's overly conservative selections, and Foster before him. It's holding us back.

AB players of the past talk about a fear of losing and upholding the AB legacy.

It’s striking a balance isn’t it? Fear of losing but going out and playing with no fear…

Defending Eden park record against the Boks is exactly the type of match for players and coaches to have for them to improve.

canefan

@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

@Donsteppa said in All Blacks 2025:

So the Eden Park record will stand for 31 years.

Well the record is going to fall one day.

The Boks will see it like a World Cup final.

Time for Razor and his team to become a win at all costs All Blacks side and protect the proud record.

I actually think the fear of losing is a decent part of the reason for Robertson's overly conservative selections, and Foster before him. It's holding us back.

Foster had no trouble surrendering longstanding records to opposition teams....

canefan

@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

@Donsteppa said in All Blacks 2025:

So the Eden Park record will stand for 31 years.

Well the record is going to fall one day.

The Boks will see it like a World Cup final.

Time for Razor and his team to become a win at all costs All Blacks side and protect the proud record.

I actually think the fear of losing is a decent part of the reason for Robertson's overly conservative selections, and Foster before him. It's holding us back.

AB players of the past talk about a fear of losing and upholding the AB legacy.

It’s striking a balance isn’t it? Fear of losing but going out and playing with no fear…

Defending Eden park record against the Boks is exactly the type of match for players and coaches to have for them to improve.

Where's Gilbert when you need him

Kiwiwomble

@DaGrubster im sure they all know about the eden park run but we saw after the home loses to Ireland, when ardie came out and said he didn;t know we'd never load at home to them, i think the current generation of players are less about history and honour and more just about personal excellence (or when im feeling harsh, its just a job to them)....it works until you need a team to lift above themselves...i think previous generations often played better at international level where as the current one dont seem too as often

Windows97

It's just depressing seeing the AB's play test after test at the graveyard of dreams/competency that is Wellington šŸ˜ž

sparky

It's a shame the ABs aren't playing Samoa or Tonga in 2025.