@brodean said in Blues 2026:
@Landers92 said in Blues 2026:
@brodean I never said player loss was down to Cotter?
Anyway, my point still stands. You don’t have to believe it if you don’t want to.
Your point is irrelevant. It's just a bit of bitchy gossip for a team you don't support.
Lol. ‘Bitchy gossip’. I guess hearing it from a player counts for nothing. As you were…
@brodean said in Blues 2026:
@Landers92 said in Blues 2026:
@brodean I never said player loss was down to Cotter?
Anyway, my point still stands. You don’t have to believe it if you don’t want to.
Your point is irrelevant. It's just a bit of bitchy gossip for a team you don't support.
I highly doubt it's gossip, @landers92 has a pretty reliable source that would suggest otherwise.
@KiwiMurph said in Blues 2026:
@brodean said in Blues 2026:
@Landers92 said in Blues 2026:
@brodean I never said player loss was down to Cotter?
Anyway, my point still stands. You don’t have to believe it if you don’t want to.
Your point is irrelevant. It's just a bit of bitchy gossip for a team you don't support.
It's inside oil that as a Blues supporter I find valuable.
All things can be true
- Dalton was a huge loss, especially defensively
- Blues were an average team this year (not unexpected)
- Cotter lost the dressing room
For me whether or not Cotter lost the dressing room is irrelevant.
We actually played well in the semi against the Canes.
At half time we were within a few points but we had lost AJ Lam and Caleb Clarke who were our two main attacking weapons. Christie came off at halftime. Soon after halftime Segner was also gone and BB started turning up at first receiver, Barnes went too and attack and defense crumbled with the bench.
I don't see what @landers92 has done wrong here. He's reported that there was tension behind the scenes which was also confirmed by @steven-harris and it seemed evident when Stern Vern started getting prickly with the media, notably James Parsons who happened to ask no more than a harmless question after the Hurricanes home fixture.
Yes, Papali'i will always be a loss to any Blues side, but regularly conceding 50+ points nearly every game in the last 5 suggests, that Cotter had lost the dressing room, and even leading up to our slump, we'd been making very hard work of nearly all our wins.
At the same time, he has left us in an alright space where we have a decent crop of youngsters to take us forward. We're in a rebuild, yes, but I think we'll be back pushing hard at the top in the next few seasons.
@African-Monkey said in Blues 2026:
I don't see what @landers92 has done wrong here. He's reported that there was tension behind the scenes which was also confirmed by @steven-harris and it seemed evident when Stern Vern started getting prickly with the media, notably James Parsons who happened to ask no more than a harmless question after the Hurricanes home fixture.
Yes, Papali'i will always be a loss to any Blues side, but regularly conceding 50+ points nearly every game in the last 5 suggests, that Cotter had lost the dressing room, and even leading up to our slump, we'd been making very hard work of nearly all our wins.
At the same time, he has left us in an alright space where we have a decent crop of youngsters to take us forward. We're in a rebuild, yes, but I think we'll be back pushing hard at the top in the next few seasons.
And you've got a coach in Holland who's coming from a very positive environment and will be eager to make his own stamp on the Blues side that has plenty of very good young talent.
@Landers92 said in Blues 2026:
@brodean said in Blues 2026:
@Landers92 said in Blues 2026:
@brodean I never said player loss was down to Cotter?
Anyway, my point still stands. You don’t have to believe it if you don’t want to.
Your point is irrelevant. It's just a bit of bitchy gossip for a team you don't support.
Lol. ‘Bitchy gossip’. I guess hearing it from a player counts for nothing. As you were…
That is literally what gossip is. If you want to call it oil then go for it. It didn't have any outcome on the Blues result this year - hence its irrelevant.
@brodean said in Blues 2026:
@Landers92 said in Blues 2026:
@brodean said in Blues 2026:
@Landers92 said in Blues 2026:
@brodean I never said player loss was down to Cotter?
Anyway, my point still stands. You don’t have to believe it if you don’t want to.
Your point is irrelevant. It's just a bit of bitchy gossip for a team you don't support.
Lol. ‘Bitchy gossip’. I guess hearing it from a player counts for nothing. As you were…
That is literally what gossip is. If you want to call it oil then go for it. It didn't have any outcome on the Blues result this year - hence its irrelevant.
In your opinion, it didnt impact the season. Others and players may disagree.
You are being a stick in the mud on this. Which is completely unnecessary. If you don't like people passing on information like this. Don't engage.
A lot of people have said they enjoyed the information. Which has been stated by several parties now. Including the Herald.
Losing a dressing room, being refused entry to post season events. It is a fairly major issue for a coach and club.
As a forum it is great contributors like @landers92 provide intel such as this.
@SouthernMann said in Blues 2026:
@brodean said in Blues 2026:
@Landers92 said in Blues 2026:
@brodean said in Blues 2026:
@Landers92 said in Blues 2026:
@brodean I never said player loss was down to Cotter?
Anyway, my point still stands. You don’t have to believe it if you don’t want to.
Your point is irrelevant. It's just a bit of bitchy gossip for a team you don't support.
Lol. ‘Bitchy gossip’. I guess hearing it from a player counts for nothing. As you were…
That is literally what gossip is. If you want to call it oil then go for it. It didn't have any outcome on the Blues result this year - hence its irrelevant.
In your opinion, it didnt impact the season. Others and players may disagree.
You are being a stick in the mud on this. Which is completely unnecessary. If you don't like people passing on information like this. Don't engage.
These types of rumours impact the club. I love the Blues as my team and as it stands these rumours are unsubstantiated. They do not benefit the Blues.
They are not good for the coach, the club, or the players involved in the club.
It reflects poorly on everyone involved. The season is over, Cotter is gone, we have a new coach, we're signing some new players, it's time to move on. Now that his time is over Cotter should be remembered as a guy that guided us to our first real title in 20 years and that's it.
There is no need for a supporter from another club to come in and keep stirring the pot.
@brodean said in Blues 2026:
it's time to move on.
Might be time to practice what you preach.
You don’t like it because it’s negative news about your team. If it were good news you’d be lapping it up.
If you don’t like any inside word moving forward, feel free to block me.
@brodean said in Blues 2026:
There is no need for a supporter from another club to come in and keep stirring the pot.
how is that even relevant?
Information is information, if you choose to believe it or not, thats up to you, but I think if the coach has lost the dressing room it is very relevant to the teams performance and morale, it is as relevant as Razor losing the dressing room for the ABs.
@george33 said in Blues 2026:
I would keep a bit quiet Landers . Eyes are watching.
Care to elaborate?
@taniwharugby said in Blues 2026:
@brodean said in Blues 2026:
There is no need for a supporter from another club to come in and keep stirring the pot.
how is that even relevant?
Information is information, if you choose to believe it or not, thats up to you, but I think if the coach has lost the dressing room it is very relevant to the teams performance and morale, it is as relevant as Razor losing the dressing room for the ABs.
The difference is there was an official investigation and review by the NZRU into the All Blacks coaching set up with interviews conducted across the entire player group, former players, and coaching group.
None of this has happened here.
@Landers92 herd that Lash guy has been shut down from giving Team . I've been told of also. Just saying
@george33 said in Blues 2026:
@Landers92 herd that Lash guy has been shut down from giving Team . I've been told of also. Just saying
Lol. Cheers I guess?
@george33 said in Blues 2026:
@Landers92 herd that Lash guy has been shut down from giving Team . I've been told of also. Just saying
fluffybunny can you please, for the love of all things that are holy, proof read, and write complete sentences. This isn't a text message with your mates. This is a written medium forum where it's actually important for people to be able to understand what the actual fuck you are talking about.
@george33 said in Blues 2026:
@Landers92 herd that Lash guy has been shut down from giving Team . I've been told of also. Just saying
Oh… so it’s because I posted the correct backline again and you just wanted to drop
in with a lazy threat? I think what youre trying to do is make it look like you knew it too but you’re making it out like you weren’t allowed to post it
I’ll keep posting what I find out. No one knows who I am or who the sources are so I don’t care who is watching. Thanks though.
@BellsGeorg said in Blues 2026:
@brodean if we're going to start labeling first-hand sources as gossip to be ignored, then what can we ever not ignore? Someone in the environment telling you something is about as direct as it gets...
So does landers92 Deep Throat source represent all 50 Blues players? Landers92 just said that no one knows who he is or who his sources are and he doesn't care.
He's posting unsubstantiated rumours on social media from an unknown source after some casual conversation. So yeah it's gossip for me.
Sorry but I'm old school and don't automatically accept everything I read on social media as fact.
