Ashes 2025/6

@antipodean said in Ashes 2025/6:

@NTA said in Ashes 2025/6:

Bledisloe? What the fk is that?! It's cricket season, you Polish harlots.

News is Cummins is out for the forseeable - back issues. Probably from carrying the entire nation the last few years.

I know he's only one person, but given how important the bowling attack in for Australia now their batsmen are inconsistent donkeys, this is a massive loss.

All it takes is a drop in form from one of the other mainstays and this is a remarkably open series.

yep, Australia's huge advantage was not only their four main bowlers, but the safety net of someone as good as Boland waiting to come in. Well now they are using the safety new right from the get go.

Cummins also provided a few of those valuable middle-order runs we talked about earlier. Boland ain't doing that.

@mariner4life said in Ashes 2025/6:

Cummins also provided a few of those valuable middle-order runs we talked about earlier.

some match saving/winning knocks. He was bloody good.

What are the chances of another round of the battle of the Ians this Summer ?

For what it’s worth I give this one to Beefy for being slightly less childish and petty and admitting Chappell was a good player.

Marnus hits 159 and puts himself in to the first test

@MN5 said in Ashes 2025/6:

What are the chances of another round of the battle of the Ians this Summer ?

For what it’s worth I give this one to Beefy for being slightly less childish and petty and admitting Chappell was a good player.

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Team Beefy in this beef!

Pat Cummins has been ruled out of the first Test.

Just read that Thomas McDonnell (NZC) [famous or infamous, depending on how you want to look at it] was the uncle of Fred Spofforth, and Spofforth lived in Hokianga as a kid.
There ya go!

^^^ This is @Virgil level crossover work @MN5

last round of Shield games for someone, anyone, to put their hand up.

Aussie could be in a spot here, the chat is around needing one opener, but again, because these selectors refuse to let anything go, they are working on the hope that Khawaja can refind some form. That double hundred in Sri Lanka is doing a LOT of heavy lifting (just like Warner's last one did) because other than that he has crossed 50 once since the start of last year. And he's had a lot of innings since then.

Essentially they are hoping a 39 year old can get his eye back.

Given England's terrible batting form at the moment, Australia could pull someone out of club cricket to be one of their openers and still win the series 5-0.

It looks like being a battle of the bowling attacks.

@sparky said in Ashes 2025/6:

Given England's terrible batting form at the moment, Australia could pull someone out of club cricket to be one of their openers and still win the series 5-0.

Both teams have a mix of brilliant batsmen, a couple maybe past it or in terrible form and some who are a bit shit and you wonder how they made it in the first place.

Should make for an excellent series.

Hope the physios are warmed up. Those geriatrics might give them quite a bit of work this summer

Given the age of the England squad too and how many injuries Archer and Stokes have had, the s England physios will be bloody busy too.

My guess is the Australians will rotate their quicks a bit from Test to Test. If they can prevent Root and Brook from finding their peak form, I expect Australia to win at least three of the Test easily, although a couple of the others may be tighter contests.

Test quicks Starc and Hazlewood playing for NSW v Victoria who have Scott Boland. Lyon and Smith also in the NSW side.
Alex Carey & Travis Head playing for South Australia. Marnus for QLD
All the Aussie test squad except Khawaja are playing in the current round of Sheffield Shield that's underway.

No pressure on Green. All he has to do is get a bunch of huge scores without getting out and he's the next Steve Waugh apparently.

Gilly was a legend and one of my favourite players but he sure does talk some shit. This is almost as bad as the time he went on about Warnies awesome batting.

It's the ears; he can't help but have random words fly into his brain.

did you read the article? it's pretty clear the Australian selectors see him as the key piece of this team going forward. He's 26 in a squad of 30+ year olds. He has been selected any time he's fit, and that includes not fit enough to bowl. He's been selected in the top order repeatedly despite a modest record.

These guys aren't saying he's the next Steve Waugh, they're saying if he is to prove he's the man going forward, he needs a break out series, like Steve Waugh had. And Australia probably need him to, given the flux around him.

They even express doubts that he can, and say he needs to bowl.

Personally i have seen nothing that says this is a possibility, but it's a very fair talking point given the shape of that Australian batting lineup, and the chances this bloke has had.

@mariner4life said in Ashes 2025/6:

did you read the article? it's pretty clear the Australian selectors see him as the key piece of this team going forward. He's 26 in a squad of 30+ year olds. He has been selected any time he's fit, and that includes not fit enough to bowl. He's been selected in the top order repeatedly despite a modest record.

These guys aren't saying he's the next Steve Waugh, they're saying if he is to prove he's the man going forward, he needs a break out series, like Steve Waugh had. And Australia probably need him to, given the flux around him.

They even express doubts that he can, and say he needs to bowl.

Personally i have seen nothing that says this is a possibility, but it's a very fair talking point given the shape of that Australian batting lineup, and the chances this bloke has had.

Well, they're saying he could be......

“This series for me for Cam Green is his Steve Waugh, 1989 Ashes,” Gilchrist said on Fox Cricket on Saturday night.

“If he can nail that breakthrough series where he contributes Test match after Test match after - I mean, ‘Tugga’ ... wasn’t dismissed until about the third Test, I reckon.

ah, you've fallen for the fox sports cut up quote.

@NTA said in Ashes 2025/6:

It's the ears; he can't help but have random words fly into his brain.

Exciting player though. Very good at being on winning test teams it has to be said. Much, much nicer guy than Brad Haddin too.

Josh Hazelwood is out of the first Ashes Test: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/articles/cwy7z7xjep1o

@sparky said in Ashes 2025/6:

Josh Hazelwood is out of the first Ashes Test: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/articles/cwy7z7xjep1o

Probably means @mariner4life won't watch now

Guardian top 100 Ashes cricketers

@KiwiPie said in Ashes 2025/6:

Guardian top 100 Ashes cricketers

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Warne 1, Bradman 2, Botham 3.
Compiled by 51 journalists picking their top 50 - Bradman topped most lists but apparently 2 people didn't select him in their top 50 even though they had to include players from all eras.

TBF and in their defense he only averaged 89.78 vs England, thats a whole 10 runs lower than his overall average.
Clearly struggled against the big boys.

Funnily though he averaged an even lower 78 at home vs England but slightly redeemed himself by averaging a not too shabby 102 in England. Scoring 11 x 100's from just 19 tests...

@KiwiPie said in Ashes 2025/6:

Guardian top 100 Ashes cricketers

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Warne 1, Bradman 2, Botham 3.
Compiled by 51 journalists picking their top 50 - Bradman topped most lists but apparently 2 people didn't select him in their top 50 even though they had to include players from all eras.

Automatically makes the rest of the list invalid.

@Virgil said in Ashes 2025/6:

@KiwiPie said in Ashes 2025/6:

Guardian top 100 Ashes cricketers

View embedded content

Warne 1, Bradman 2, Botham 3.
Compiled by 51 journalists picking their top 50 - Bradman topped most lists but apparently 2 people didn't select him in their top 50 even though they had to include players from all eras.

TBF and in their defense he only averaged 89.78 vs England, thats a whole 10 runs lower than his overall average.
Clearly struggled against the big boys.

Funnily though he averaged an even lower 78 at home vs England but slightly redeemed himself by averaging a not too shabby 102 in England. Scoring 11 x 100's from just 19 tests...

Further to this silly list.......

It's pretty awesome to me that Beefy and Warnie are so highly rated. Both absolute larrakins off the field who could play like demons when they needed to. Both very high on my list of favourite players.

Guys who captured the imagination like few, if any, before them because if you look closer they both had a few faults ( Beefy crap vs Windies, Warnie crap in India )

Would definitely choose either of them to have a few beers with over Bradman who preferred tea apparently.

@sparky said in Ashes 2025/6:

Josh Hazelwood is out of the first Ashes Test: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/articles/cwy7z7xjep1o

Probably means a likely debut for Brendan Doggett

@1kiwi said in Ashes 2025/6:

@sparky said in Ashes 2025/6:

Josh Hazelwood is out of the first Ashes Test: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/articles/cwy7z7xjep1o

Probably means a likely debut for Brendan Doggett

Dizzy Gillespie backs him, which is good enough for me.

I still can't agree with starting the series in Perth. I'll be somewhere in Tokyo when the first ball is delivered so hopefully it goes well and/or I can find a way to watch it

@NTA said in Ashes 2025/6:

I still can't agree with starting the series in Perth. I'll be somewhere in Tokyo when the first ball is delivered so hopefully it goes well and/or I can find a way to watch it

We went to Perth for a day night first test of the tour and it ruined us for the entire trip

Australia XI for first Test: Usman Khawaja, Jake Weatherald, Marnus Labuschagne, Steve Smith (c), Travis Head, Cameron Green, Alex Carey (wk), Mitchell Starc, Nathan Lyon, Brendan Doggett, Scott Boland

As a Pom, its difficult to ever see Aus test team as anything other than an unstoppable force, particularly in Australia. I have basically consistently under estimated this England team under Stokes and Mac - I am still going to be watching through my fingers, I still expect it to be 4-0 or 5-0. But there's no doubt that this is our best chance to do something special for the first time in 14 years. Winning probably beyond them, but being competitive is a genuine possibility, will depend a lot on the fitness of our first choice bowlers.

Apparently Stokes would be only the third English skipper ever to regain the Ashes in Australia - that would be some achievement.

@1kiwi said in Ashes 2025/6:

Australia XI for first Test: Usman Khawaja, Jake Weatherald, Marnus Labuschagne, Steve Smith (c), Travis Head, Cameron Green, Alex Carey (wk), Mitchell Starc, Nathan Lyon, Brendan Doggett, Scott Boland

That's some team.

That 3,4, 5, 6 and 7 are a different league collectively to their English equivalents. I don't see England getting them all out cheaply.

Even with all the injuries, that bowling line-up is better than England's.

Australia should be massive favourites for the series. It will end at least 3-1 to their favour.

But yeah, I think it will end 5-0 to Australia.

@sparky said in Ashes 2025/6:

@1kiwi said in Ashes 2025/6:

Australia XI for first Test: Usman Khawaja, Jake Weatherald, Marnus Labuschagne, Steve Smith (c), Travis Head, Cameron Green, Alex Carey (wk), Mitchell Starc, Nathan Lyon, Brendan Doggett, Scott Boland

That's some team.

That 3,4, 5, 6 and 7 are a different league collectively to their English equivalents. I don't see England getting them all out cheaply.

Even with all the injuries, that bowling line-up is better than England's.

Australia should be massive favourites for the series. It will end at least 3-1 to their favour.

But yeah, I think it will end 5-0 to Australia.

England have the two best test batsmen in the world. Duckett is a very good opener too. Stokes obviously capable of lifting for the big occasions. I'm not sure the gulf is as great as you think.

Can't help but agree with the bowling summary though.

Might have to side with Smith on this one

@MN5 said in Ashes 2025/6:

England have the two best test batsmen in the world

Root's average of 35 in Aus with a high score of 89 doesnt have quite the same ring as ICC number 1 test batsman.....

@KiwiMurph said in Ashes 2025/6:

@MN5 said in Ashes 2025/6:

England have the two best test batsmen in the world

Root's average of 35 in Aus with a high score of 89 doesnt have quite the same ring as ICC number 1 test batsman.....

Don't ruin my narrative with pesky facts.

Root is due........SURELY !!!!!

or else we get a nude Hayden run

@MN5 said in Ashes 2025/6:

or else we get a nude Hayden run

Grace Hayden?