Ajaz must be licking his chops at the look of the pitch, cracks everywhere
We will need to accumulate quickly to allow enough time to bowl the Windies out, and provide a total that will tempting but be just out of reach
@Chris-B said in West Indies tour of NZ:
@MN5 Phillips for me is a batsman who can bowl - similar to Ravindra and Mitchell.
He's not playing like it when they bat him at seven.
His place is under threat (in my team) because I want him to bat with more starch and less cavalierly.
Having him bat at six might change this mindset a bit.
He's not in their class as a batsman ( NZ are very lucky to have both of them ) but a better bowler than either of them so definitely much more of an all-rounder than they are ( ridiculous that the player profiles list them as all-rounders but I digress....)
But how do you justify a guy averaging 48 in first class Cricket batting at seven ?
I guess Adam Gilchrist was pretty handy at doing just that.
I wish I knew how the rankings worked for test batting..... ( and bowling for that matter )
Devon Conway and Daryl Mitchell have remarkably similar career records right at the minute on account of the former having a great run and the latter having a bit of a slump. Both currently have very good averages, similar amount of runs and tests......
DJ Mitchell
2019-2025 35* 55 5 2175 190 43.50 4058 53.59 5 15
DP Conway
2021-2025 32* 60 3 2463 227 43.21 4610 53.42 6 13
Yet Mitchell is still ranked 10th in the world and Conway 31st. I'm assuming it takes into account opposition/home and away etc ?
Mitchell hasn't got a ton in his last thirty innings, Conway has had two in his last seven......
103-0.
These two are trying to outdo their first innings efforts. Conway in particular looking magnificent.
First time there has ever been two consecutive hundred run stands in test history.
Lead of 253. A declaration an hour before stumps would be nice, big question mark if the NZ attack can roll them though.
Conway just needs to reach 73 to bring up 300 runs for match
The nz record is 343, can anyone guess who holds that record?
@Virgil said in West Indies tour of NZ:
Conway just needs to reach 73 to bring up 300 runs for match
The nz record is 343, can anyone guess who holds that record?
World record is Graham Gooch with 456 I do know that.
As for NZ I'm going to guess Stephen Fleming. He got a few big double tons.
@MN5 said in West Indies tour of NZ:
@Virgil said in West Indies tour of NZ:
Conway just needs to reach 73 to bring up 300 runs for match
The nz record is 343, can anyone guess who holds that record?World record is Graham Gooch with 456 I do know that.
As for NZ I'm going to guess Stephen Fleming. He got a few big double ton.
That’s a bingo, Flem with his 274 an 69 vs Sri Lanka
Both unbeaten too
Is it too soon to talk about scoring a 200 and 100 in the same match
@Virgil said in West Indies tour of NZ:
@MN5 said in West Indies tour of NZ:
@Virgil said in West Indies tour of NZ:
Conway just needs to reach 73 to bring up 300 runs for match
The nz record is 343, can anyone guess who holds that record?World record is Graham Gooch with 456 I do know that.
As for NZ I'm going to guess Stephen Fleming. He got a few big double ton.
That’s a bingo, Flem with his 274 an 69 vs Sri Lanka
Both unbeaten too
Is it too soon to talk about scoring a 200 and 100 in the same match
No cheating I promise. I remember long before the days of the fern having a discussion with a workmate about whether Fleming was class or not, that innings ( and I remember him doing ok in the second too ) backed up my claims. Others have got double tons but generally failed ( or not even batted ) in the second innings so they were ruled out.
Conway seeing it like a beachball, well and truly MOTM, they need to score quick to force a result so hundred for him definitely on.
Conway can look ropey early in an innings. But he's absolutely loving it out there right now
Hard to see this being much other than a draw, unless Ajaz can get it turning square somehow.
Only the third time in history the openers have both scored a ton and a fifty in a match ( with Latham bringing up his 50 )
That's a cool stat considering this is test number 2614.
But yeah, tough to see NZs attack knocking these guys over with enough time to force a win.
time to start going for records if you cant win, they have one now, if they both get a ton, i suspect thats another
Apparently this is the record for most runs scored by the opening partnership in any test.
@Godder said in West Indies tour of NZ:
Apparently this is the record for most runs scored by the opening partnership in any test.
Yep it would be.
No disrespect to any number of past NZ gutsy openers but its not an area of the game littered with kiwi greats. I think it's outstanding that the Black Caps have this record.
Devon Conway!
Just the 10th batsman to score a double hundred and hundred in the same test
@Virgil said in West Indies tour of NZ:
Devon Conway!
Just the 10th batsman to score a double hundred and hundred in the same test
His resurgence of form is quite frankly outstanding.
Thrilled for him, I thought his career was all but over this time last year.
The boys should race towards a 400 lead as soon as possible and if they lose a wicket we should declare if the lead is over 350
@MN5 said in West Indies tour of NZ:
18 off the over before tea.
Latham has quietly snuck to 80.
@canefan yeah they should get Philips to pad up to come in next for a swing.
Don't want to waste any time getting out there. I want to see us heaps the pressure on. 4 men at least in the slip cordon and a man close in front of the bat. Pour it on
@canefan said in West Indies tour of NZ:
Watching the comms, Bish is huge!
Him, Courtney and ( especially ) Curtley were a menacing bunch for sure.
@MN5 said in West Indies tour of NZ:
@canefan said in West Indies tour of NZ:
Watching the comms, Bish is huge!
Him, Courtney and ( especially ) Curtley were a menacing bunch for sure.
Ask Ken Rutherford and Mike Gatting. They know 
. The golden era of WI quicks was a sight to see. Menacing is right
The top 4 averaging batsmen in tests so far in 2025… obviously if Latham and Conway are dismissed it will change
Henry Nicholls - 188.00
Rachin Ravindra - 105.75
Devon Conway - 99.57
Tom Latham - 81.20
@canefan said in West Indies tour of NZ:
@MN5 said in West Indies tour of NZ:
@canefan said in West Indies tour of NZ:
Watching the comms, Bish is huge!
Him, Courtney and ( especially ) Curtley were a menacing bunch for sure.
Ask Ken Rutherford and Mike Gatting. They know
Bishop had lots of injury issues but still had a brilliant career.
@MN5 said in West Indies tour of NZ:
Shit from Conway getting out right after the break and exposing KW late in the day.
They shouldn't be out there much longer. Should have sent a pinch hitter
I would say its on Latham getting his ton or not.. 10 runs from him to declare or get out
With our bowlers I am not sure we have enough runs. The attack has the bad old days written all over it.
@canefan said in West Indies tour of NZ:
@MN5 said in West Indies tour of NZ:
Shit from Conway getting out right after the break and exposing KW late in the day.
They shouldn't be out there much longer. Should have sent a pinch hitter
Tongue firmly in cheek but yes they should have. KW on a bit if a hiding to nothing here.
@Crazy-Horse said in West Indies tour of NZ:
With our bowlers I am not sure we have enough runs. The attack has the bad old days written all over it.
A bunch of handy support bowlers without a spearhead is how I'd look at it.
YES !
Another extension on that awesome opening record. Shot Latham !!!!! 16th test century. Third in the series.
First time BOTH openers have scored centuries in BOTH innings in ANY first class match.
In the history of all Cricket I can't believe it hasn't happened before.
Absolutely incredible. Well done fellas.
Only the fifth time two players have scored centuries in each innings of a test, first time for NZ.
Of note also is it has only been done by opposing batters once (Warner and Kohli).
@Godder said in West Indies tour of NZ:
Only the fifth time two players have scored centuries in each innings of a test, first time for NZ.
Of note also is it has only been done by opposing batters once (Warner and Kohli).
Jeez the 80s was a tough time to be a batsman.
Only happened FOUR times during that period.
Another record, that’s the highest total runs NZ have scored in a test match 881
Previous record was 874 back in 1990
@Godder said in West Indies tour of NZ:
Only the fifth time two players have scored centuries in each innings of a test, first time for NZ.
Of note also is it has only been done by opposing batters once (Warner and Kohli).
As much as a fluff bunny Warmer is. It’s an incredible stat that he scored twin 100s in a test on 3 occasions
@Virgil said in West Indies tour of NZ:
Another record, that’s the highest total runs NZ have scored in a test match 881
Previous record was 874 back in 1990
Shame there's fuck all people there watching.....Wellington put them to shame during the test at the Basin ( and I was set to go before the Windies wilted in three days )
Good opportunity to get a couple of cheeky wickets. Rigor commentating and reckons NZ have batted too long though. We'll see.
Quite a lot riding on Duffy coming out firing.
@Virgil said in West Indies tour of NZ:
@Godder said in West Indies tour of NZ:
Only the fifth time two players have scored centuries in each innings of a test, first time for NZ.
Of note also is it has only been done by opposing batters once (Warner and Kohli).
As much as a fluff bunny Warmer is. It’s an incredible stat that he scored twin 100s in a test on 3 occasions
Warner was one of the great openers of the modern era. Very dangerous and effective player with a terrific record.
Definitely not a popular fellow though. I never found him that bad though.
He was no Brad Haddin.
@MN5 said in West Indies tour of NZ:
First time BOTH openers have scored centuries in BOTH innings in ANY first class match.
In the history of all Cricket I can't believe it hasn't happened before.
That's incredible, because there must have been tens of thousands of first class matches.
Edit: AI saying hundrds of thousands and potentially millions.
@Crazy-Horse said in West Indies tour of NZ:
With our bowlers I am not sure we have enough runs. The attack has the bad old days written all over it.
I don't think there's any real demons in this pitch. Pretty much everyone who has got out has got themselves out.
Pleased we've got a big buffer going into day 5. If the Windies bat competently, they'll force a draw about four-down, I reckon.