Even if Scooter is back to near full fitness, why would you start him? Holland, Darry and Lord haven't let anyone down and seem eager for work
@taniwharugby said in England Vs All Blacks:
@canefan of course they'll start him, probably with Holland and Lord dropping to bench.
Yup. Nothing like not being match fit, back from injury, and starting in our toughest game on tour. Oh and being a card magnet
@Catogrande 1973 as well - it really was a sequence!
I'd forgotten about 2002, which was the tour that Christian Cullen enjoyed so much. I think Ben Cohen gave us quite a lot of trouble in that game!
my memory is him rag dolling Blair in to touch like he was a child, and that snuffed out our final chance for an improbable win
@mariner4life said in England Vs All Blacks:
my memory is him rag dolling Blair in to touch like he was a child, and that snuffed out our final chance for an improbable win
Ben Blair. Ugh sigh
@mariner4life said in England Vs All Blacks:
my memory is him rag dolling Blair in to touch like he was a child, and that snuffed out our final chance for an improbable win
Kinghorn probably thought he was going to do that to McKenzie to be fair
Blair was running in quicksand that day. I think the best footy Blair played was after he left NZ. But I digress
The 02 and 03 losses were heartbreakers and looking back were against the best England side in our lifetimes!
@BerniesCorner said in England Vs All Blacks:
If you think about some of the props, locks and loosies we haven't had over the past 5 years, at the moment everyday is a good day.
Foster had his shortcomings but he was brave to bring Vaa'i and Lord into the environment as 20 yr olds, those selections bearing fruit for the nation nowadays
I watched the full 2019 semi final between these two teams for the first time. That was an incredible performance by England. Hoping for something similar this weekend. Cant wait
@W32 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I watched the full 2019 semi final between these two teams for the first time. That was an incredible performance by England. Hoping for something similar this weekend. Cant wait
Fuck you bru!
@W32 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I watched the full 2019 semi final between these two teams for the first time. That was an incredible performance by England. Hoping for something similar this weekend. Cant wait
Itoje probably played the match of his career. Curry and Underhill were dynamite.
@canefan said in England Vs All Blacks:
@W32 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I watched the full 2019 semi final between these two teams for the first time. That was an incredible performance by England. Hoping for something similar this weekend. Cant wait
Fuck you bru!
Haha! Come on the poms!
@W32 said in England Vs All Blacks:
@canefan said in England Vs All Blacks:
@W32 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I watched the full 2019 semi final between these two teams for the first time. That was an incredible performance by England. Hoping for something similar this weekend. Cant wait
Fuck you bru!
Haha! Come on the poms!
@brodean said in England Vs All Blacks:
@W32 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I watched the full 2019 semi final between these two teams for the first time. That was an incredible performance by England. Hoping for something similar this weekend. Cant wait
Itoje probably played the match of his career. Curry and Underhill were dynamite.
What was so impressive was the way they just refused to lose. The problem is they can put out a performance like that … only every few years.. lucky for the rest of us.
@No-Quarter said in England Vs All Blacks:
@W32 I bet you enjoyed that one after we smacked your boys around in pool play, gave you yet another easy RWC title
It was a good game to lose considering the path after that….. it all went according to plan….
@W32 said in England Vs All Blacks:
@No-Quarter said in England Vs All Blacks:
@W32 I bet you enjoyed that one after we smacked your boys around in pool play, gave you yet another easy RWC title
It was a good game to lose considering the path after that….. it all went according to plan….
ah so the card imbalance was planned then. Noted.
@reprobate said in England Vs All Blacks:
@taniwharugby said in England Vs All Blacks:
@ACT-Crusader plus the software they have access to enables them to watch every lineout if they choose, look for patterns, then watch every ruck, how they respond in what part of the field.
Watching games in thier entirety would be rare these days I expect.
I'd really hope that isn't the case. The game has ebb and flow and every contest and every individual action by an opponent takes part within a context that matters.
Agreed
And a line out in minute 5 is very different from a line out in minute 75
@canefan said in England Vs All Blacks:
@W32 said in England Vs All Blacks:
@canefan said in England Vs All Blacks:
@W32 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I watched the full 2019 semi final between these two teams for the first time. That was an incredible performance by England. Hoping for something similar this weekend. Cant wait
Fuck you bru!
Haha! Come on the poms!
Jesus
How long are his fingers?
@MiketheSnow said in England Vs All Blacks:
@canefan said in England Vs All Blacks:
@W32 said in England Vs All Blacks:
@canefan said in England Vs All Blacks:
@W32 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I watched the full 2019 semi final between these two teams for the first time. That was an incredible performance by England. Hoping for something similar this weekend. Cant wait
Fuck you bru!
Haha! Come on the poms!
Jesus
How long are his fingers?
Must be AI
@brodean said in England Vs All Blacks:
Vaa'i was defensively poor at blindside. Both from a workrate point of view, positioning and accuracy. Also I dont think hes quick enough off the mark. That said I wouldn't be surprised if they went back to him
Some of that is likely owing to inexperience.
@canefan said in England Vs All Blacks:
Even if Scooter is back to near full fitness, why would you start him? Holland, Darry and Lord haven't let anyone down and seem eager for work
Bigger motor in scrum, solid cleaner, hard tackler. Need one of those in engine room against top teams.
@pakman said in England Vs All Blacks:
@canefan said in England Vs All Blacks:
Even if Scooter is back to near full fitness, why would you start him? Holland, Darry and Lord haven't let anyone down and seem eager for work
Bigger motor in scrum, solid cleaner, hard tackler. Need one of those in engine room against top teams.
I hope he's fit
@W32 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I watched the full 2019 semi final between these two teams for the first time. That was an incredible performance by England. Hoping for something similar this weekend. Cant wait
Love it.
I haven’t cheered for the Boks ever. Even during the time when my dislike for Aussie and the smug Aussie fans was at its peak (99-04), I would want them to win 3-0 against the Boks. I’ll even call on that 1/64th Irish heritage in 2 weeks…..
England were superb that night and they did have a core group of quality players that were capable of pulling one out of the bag.
@ACT-Crusader said in England Vs All Blacks:
@W32 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I watched the full 2019 semi final between these two teams for the first time. That was an incredible performance by England. Hoping for something similar this weekend. Cant wait
Love it.
I haven’t cheered for the Boks ever. Even during the time when my dislike for Aussie and the smug Aussie fans was at its peak (99-04), I would want them to win 3-0 against the Boks. I’ll even call on that 1/64th Irish heritage in 2 weeks…..
England were superb that night and they did have a core group of quality players that were capable of pulling one out of the bag.
And Eddie Jones outsmarted us that night
@sparky said in England Vs All Blacks:
@ACT-Crusader He said he'd seen clips not the whole match. But it was obvious from his comments that he's very aware of England's recent pattern and style.
fair play, that's more than i am.
@W32 said in England Vs All Blacks:
In the 19 WC win… it’s hard when the boks have won so many, I know
Well I ran into that one headlong...
@W32 said in England Vs All Blacks:
What was so impressive was the way they just refused to lose.
Helped by the ABs being determined to lose from team selection to the final whistle.
@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:
@W32 said in England Vs All Blacks:
What was so impressive was the way they just refused to lose.
Helped by the ABs being determined to lose from team selection to the final whistle.
It was a pretty meek surrender wasnt it?
@canefan said in England Vs All Blacks:
And Eddie Jones outsmarted us that night
I disagree. We were so fucking clueless the bloke running the West Looe Junior XV would have outsmarted us that night.
@DaGrubster said in England Vs All Blacks:
CLW, Josh Beehre and Caleb Tangitau added to the squad as training cover.
Finau and Jacobsen are heading home
Injured? Boo
@booboo said in England Vs All Blacks:
@DaGrubster said in England Vs All Blacks:
CLW, Josh Beehre and Caleb Tangitau added to the squad as training cover.
Finau and Jacobsen are heading home
Injured? Boo
Illness in the family for Finau - not injury
@KiwiMurph said in England Vs All Blacks:
@booboo said in England Vs All Blacks:
@DaGrubster said in England Vs All Blacks:
CLW, Josh Beehre and Caleb Tangitau added to the squad as training cover.
Finau and Jacobsen are heading home
Injured? Boo
Illness in the family for Finau - not injury
Still. Boo. I'm a fanboi. Would like to see him get a few tests in a row.
But given unavailability I'm on the Parker bandwagon (still think Finau has more potential).
@DaGrubster said in England Vs All Blacks:
CLW, Josh Beehre and Caleb Tangitau added to the squad as training cover.
Finau and Jacobsen are heading home
Awesome that Tangitau has been brought into the environment 
he has "it"