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Canes4life

@george33 said in Boks tour squad:

@Canes4life Not at all just my opinion.

I find it hard to tell what's your opinion versus a statement that you've heard from your source.

@Canes4life that's definitely my opinion.
Just aren't doing it for me , just my take on it .
Very congested area.

Canes4life

@george33 said in Boks tour squad:

@Canes4life that's definitely my opinion.
Just aren't doing it for me , just my take on it .
Very congested area.

You're allowed your opinion mate, I just thought you heard something.

antipodean

@Chris said in Boks tour squad:

Gardiner could be looked at

I wouldn't be adverse to this if he consistently plays with the form.he's starting to show this season. Play dominating rugby in the finals and he should be included in the squad.

antipodean

I heard a fairly reliable source say both Kirifi and Lakai are going to have to step up their game to make the squad.

Chris

@Canes4life said in Boks tour squad:

@Chris said in Boks tour squad:

@Canes4life said in Boks tour squad:

@Chris said in Boks tour squad:

Those teams speculated on further up the thread look a lot like rinse and repeat from the last 3 years.
I am not sure the results are going to be much better with the same players.

We have no choice to go with similar players to previous years because all the talent playing well in Super Rugby right now are leaving because they weren't selected in previous seasons.

Aside from Frizzell and Mo'unga, who would you have in there?

Yeah a major problem your side is close to what I would like to see.

Mounga for Harkin
Frizell for Jacobsen
Gardiner could be looked at
Probably not a lot else when I look.

Really there are too many players not up to it we have to select which is my worry.
The SA tour could be brutal as far as results go.

If Mo'unga is available this might be an unpopular opinion, but I'd take Harkin over BB.

If the ultimate goal is to prepare our players for the WC next year, then why take someone who's going to be even further over the hill in 18 months time.

Hmmm, Gardiner isn't imposing enough for an AB eight. Definitely the key ingredient this AB side is missing.

I wouldn't mind Harkin over BB.
Gardiner a 6 not really an 8, he throws his body around high work rate, Worth a look for a physical presence.

frugby

This thread is also very funny because it is everyone agreeing on 90% players, and then favouring their own franchise players for the rest.

Canes4life

@antipodean said in Boks tour squad:

I heard a fairly reliable source say both Kirifi and Lakai are going to have to step up their game to make the squad.

George as a source doesn't count.

Dan54

@canefan said in Boks tour squad:

@Grooter said in Boks tour squad:

@frugby I have a Sixth sense Perofeta's time in nz rugby is drawing to a close, in which event Callum Harkin will have his phone nearby

Perofeta either never kicked on, or wasn't given much opportunity, or both. Time to look at Harkin, who has been quietly brilliant for the Canes this season

Yep mate, I not sure I see the point of Perofeta going, I like the idea of a Harkin, but not sure he has got ability to step up. I would think Mounga will get a spot, But will be interesting to see who makes squad.

antipodean

@Canes4life said in Boks tour squad:

@antipodean said in Boks tour squad:

I heard a fairly reliable source say both Kirifi and Lakai are going to have to step up their game to make the squad.

Care to share who the source is? Pretty odd statement considering they've both been apart of the best performing loose trio in the comp.

Even harsher on Lakai who's arguably been the most consistent loose forward from the very beginning of the season.

I call bullshit considering we aren't flush with options right now.

Source was George.

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Kiwiwomble

@frugby said in Boks tour squad:

This thread is also very funny because it is everyone agreeing on 90% players, and then favouring their own franchise players for the rest.

except probably the highlanders fans....not sure we're advocating for many outside the obvious like Tangitau

Canes4life

@antipodean said in Boks tour squad:

@Canes4life said in Boks tour squad:

@antipodean said in Boks tour squad:

I heard a fairly reliable source say both Kirifi and Lakai are going to have to step up their game to make the squad.

Care to share who the source is? Pretty odd statement considering they've both been apart of the best performing loose trio in the comp.

Even harsher on Lakai who's arguably been the most consistent loose forward from the very beginning of the season.

I call bullshit considering we aren't flush with options right now.

Source was George.

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George was source

canefan

@Dan54 said in Boks tour squad:

@canefan said in Boks tour squad:

@Grooter said in Boks tour squad:

@frugby I have a Sixth sense Perofeta's time in nz rugby is drawing to a close, in which event Callum Harkin will have his phone nearby

Perofeta either never kicked on, or wasn't given much opportunity, or both. Time to look at Harkin, who has been quietly brilliant for the Canes this season

Yep mate, I not sure I see the point of Perofeta going, I like the idea of a Harkin, but not sure he has got ability to step up. I would think Mounga will get a spot, But will be interesting to see who makes squad.

Only one way to find out...

Iose maybe in with a shout and also I really like Chay fihaki this year. Seems to have improved a lot

would make more sense using Iose as a hybrid than LF

@ploughboy said in Boks tour squad:

would make more sense using Iose as a hybrid than LF

I dunno about that. The way the game is played these days there are a shitload of backs who are pretty solid breakdown players, but there are not many forwards who could position and defend effectively at centre or wing.

Canes4life

@reprobate said in Boks tour squad:

@ploughboy said in Boks tour squad:

would make more sense using Iose as a hybrid than LF

I dunno about that. The way the game is played these days there are a shitload of backs who are pretty solid breakdown players, but there are not many forwards who could position and defend effectively at centre or wing.

Iose is probably one of the loosies in NZ that wouldn't look out of place in the centres or on the wing if required. Oli Mathis, Lakai and Savea are others. The latter two played in the backs when they were at college so wouldn't be too far out the gate.

Iose's call for the ball on Saturday against the Crusaders, the speed to beat his opposite and then the banana kick over the top for Roigard's try was top notch.

@Canes4life said in Boks tour squad:

@reprobate said in Boks tour squad:

@ploughboy said in Boks tour squad:

would make more sense using Iose as a hybrid than LF

I dunno about that. The way the game is played these days there are a shitload of backs who are pretty solid breakdown players, but there are not many forwards who could position and defend effectively at centre or wing.

Iose is probably one of the loosies in NZ that wouldn't look out of place in the centres or on the wing if required. Oli Mathis, Lakai and Savea are others. The latter two played in the backs when they were at college so wouldn't be too far out the gate.

Iose's call for the ball on Saturday against the Crusaders, the speed to beat his opposite and then the banana kick over the top for Roigard's try was top notch.

And how is his positioning in the back field? His reading of when to come in and when to stay out? I think there are plenty of forwards who can look good attacking against backs, but not many at all who can look good defending against quality backs in space.
If you think Jordan, Fineanganofo, Clarke, Tangitau would rip them apart in a bit of space, or a good kicking 10 would make them look silly with 50-22s etc, then they really shouldn't be there - there's nowhere to hide in the open spaces.