At Test level it would need faster over rates than the current cohort manages.
@Godder I know I am getting on a bit in years with the associated slight memory challenges but attended four days of Plunkett Shield match last season (pretty much all by myself it must be confessed) so am confused by your assertion that the number of days have been reduced. I was sure when I was a tad younger they were only three day encounters with hours of pay between 10.30am and 6.30pm.
@Higgins said in Black Caps Test Tour to England & Ireland:
@Godder I know I am getting on a bit in years with the associated slight memory challenges but attended four days of Plunkett Shield match last season (pretty much all by myself it must be confessed) so am confused by your assertion that the number of days have been reduced. I was sure when I was a tad younger they were only three day encounters with hours of pay between 10.30am and 6.30pm.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Then I wondered if I missed first class games being reduced to three days again.
So this will be Irelands 11th test match and their first against NZ.
They've beaten Zimbabwe twice, Afghanistan once and lost to Afghanistan, Sri Lanka ( twice ), England ( twice ) Bangladesh and Pakistan. Not one draw curiously enough.
That indicates they're not entirely shit and worthy of test status which can only be good for the game.
However I hope the BCs select their top team and give them a sound beating.
@MN5 said in Black Caps Test Tour to England & Ireland:
So this will be Irelands 10th test match and their first against NZ.
They've beaten Zimbabwe twice, Afghanistan once and lost to Afghanistan, Sri Lanka ( twice ), England ( twice ) Bangladesh and Pakistan. Not one draw curiously enough.
That indicates they're not entirely shit and worthy of test status which can only be good for the game.
However I hope the BCs select their top team and give them a sound beating.
Are we a good chance of making the test final if we beat Ireland, then England away,? Or is there still plenty of cricket to play. I've been out of the loop with the BCs so haven't caught up with everything.
We also have a 4 test series against Australia including a boxing day test that will probably stuff us. I've never been able to get a good sense of possible outcomes with the percentage system the WTC uses, so no idea how much that hurts us.
The Ireland match doesn't matter though, they're not in the WTC (nor are Zimbabwe or Afghanistan).
@Cyclops said in Black Caps Test Tour to England & Ireland:
We also have a 4 test series against Australia including a boxing day test that will probably stuff us. I've never been able to get a good sense of possible outcomes with the percentage system the WTC uses, so no idea how much that hurts us.
The Ireland match doesn't matter though, they're not in the WTC (nor are Zimbabwe or Afghanistan).
penalties for slow over rates also effect that percentage system.
I'm happy we are playing Ireland, great exposure for them and we get a good warm up going into the England series. For once NZ cricket has got something half right re: scheduling.
@Canes4life said in Black Caps Test Tour to England & Ireland:
@MN5 said in Black Caps Test Tour to England & Ireland:
So this will be Irelands 10th test match and their first against NZ.
They've beaten Zimbabwe twice, Afghanistan once and lost to Afghanistan, Sri Lanka ( twice ), England ( twice ) Bangladesh and Pakistan. Not one draw curiously enough.
That indicates they're not entirely shit and worthy of test status which can only be good for the game.
However I hope the BCs select their top team and give them a sound beating.
Are we a good chance of making the test final if we beat Ireland, then England away,? Or is there still plenty of cricket to play. I've been out of the loop with the BCs so haven't caught up with everything.
Unfortunately the Ireland result means nothing in terms of WTC points.
Two away series against England and Australia will be huge.
New Zealand have the talent to do well ( so, SO many top class players ) but its the hope that kills ya !
KW stat update ( mainly for the old boy @Virgil )
Currently sitting on an incredible 9,461 runs at 54.68.
eight tests coming up vs Ireland, England and Australia. So potentially 16 innings to get 539 runs and join a very elite list, only 15 guys on there.
Not accounting for not outs and assuming he averages a very modest ( for him ) 33.68 during this period he'll get there. If he bumps the average up a bit he'll get there this year ( last Aussie test is in January next year )
I don't know KW from a bar of soap but I can 100% guarantee that milestone will be in his sights.
As it stands he's not actually our top rated player at the moment. He's fifth in the batting rankings behind Root, Brook, Head and Smith.
Our best is Matt Henry who is ranked an amazing third behind Bumrah and Starc.
@MN5 said in Black Caps Test Tour to England & Ireland:
I don't know KW from a bar of soap but I can 100% guarantee that milestone will be in his sights.
From everything I know about him, he is remarkably unconcerned about personal milestones - otherwise he'd have a lot more ODI centuries.
@KiwiPie said in Black Caps Test Tour to England & Ireland:
@MN5 said in Black Caps Test Tour to England & Ireland:
I don't know KW from a bar of soap but I can 100% guarantee that milestone will be in his sights.
From everything I know about him, he is remarkably unconcerned about personal milestones - otherwise he'd have a lot more ODI centuries.
Interesting. Bit of a contrast to our other ATG Paddles. He was stats obsessed.
I remember reading when he played against Sri Lanka him and Jeff Crowe were in the middle of a big partnership. Apparently someone let them know that whoever got the next hundred would score the hundredth ton for NZ. Given Hadlee had broken every single bowling record under the sun at that point ( and continued to do so ) one would think he'd do the magnanimous thing and let Crowe get it. Not Hadlee, he accelerated his scoring rate and got there ahead of him ! poor old Jeff Crowe, always in his brothers shadow had to make do with scoring century number 101 !
Back to KW, I hope he doesn't have an end of career slump like Lara, Tendulkar, Ponting and Dravid. Those guys all went on too long.
@MN5 said in Black Caps Test Tour to England & Ireland:
eight tests coming up vs Ireland, England and Australia. So potentially 16 innings to get 539 runs and join a very elite list, only 15 guys on there.
There are two tests against India at home in November as well (also part of the WTC)!
Looks like the team will be even more inexperienced than before.
Any Irish ferner cricket fans out there ?
I think I already know the answer.
@Bovidae said in Black Caps Test Tour to England & Ireland:
Disappointing that the returning quick bowlers aren't playing.
We're batting first.
Taking Ireland lightly ?
I can't believe none of Henry, Jamieson or O'Rourke are playing.
Bowling line up should still do the job but very journeymanish in comparison.
