@bayimports said in FIFA World Cup:
@canefan said in FIFA World Cup:
Interesting, Iran has a world ranking of 20, and Egypt 29. We should feel quietly confident of our chances
probably wont underestimate us now though, thought Egypt would have been above them myself, but i dont following rankings too closely
Me too. I thought Iran gave us too much time for the first goal, then again with the second
@Kiwiwomble said in FIFA World Cup:
@canefan give the boys a little credit, i think they fought for the tiny bit of space and time they had, coming through looking for second balls with intent
Oh yeah of course. I thought we played great. Look at the first goal, Wood's touch was amazing, Singh made a run that made the defence hesitate and allowed Wood to set up as target man in the box. The run from Just was perfect as was the finish
ive been out of the loop, was Just heralded?
felt like
@Kiwiwomble said in FIFA World Cup:
ive been out of the loop, was Just heralded?
felt like
- theyre going to come after wood, do use your size, hold your ground and hold the ball up
- sigh, come through hot with intent you'll be the second target so make them think its you
- Just....thats where you come in
Apparently had a very good season on the wing for Motherwell
@Kiwiwomble said in FIFA World Cup:
one game and he is the NZ all-time top goal scorer at a FIFA World Cup
Did we even score a goal in our last WC? I remember all those draws.
If memory serves, we only scored 2 goals at Espana 82. Steve Summer scored one, was Steve Woodin the other scorer?
Edit Google confirms this. We scored against Scotland and were bagelled against Brazil and the USSR
@Kiwiwomble said in FIFA World Cup:
one game and he is the NZ all-time top goal scorer at a FIFA World Cup
He looks sharp. If they can try to establish Wood in the box again vs Egypt, Singh and Just will have chances. Maybe even Cacace. We need a ref who is not sympathetic to Egyptian simulation. Today's ref was good in that regard. Didn't bite, and they gave up trying for the most part
@canefan said in FIFA World Cup:
@Kiwiwomble said in FIFA World Cup:
one game and he is the NZ all-time top goal scorer at a FIFA World Cup
If they can try to establish Wood in the box again
That made me giggle.
@bayimports said in FIFA World Cup:
@canefan said in FIFA World Cup:
Interesting, Iran has a world ranking of 20, and Egypt 29. We should feel quietly confident of our chances
probably wont underestimate us now though, thought Egypt would have been above them myself, but i dont follow int rankings too closely
And the rankings outside the top 7 or 8 are really much of a muchness. Iran had a good record coming in the WC and only lost to a very good Qatar side. They have players in the UAE league which has improved out of sight given the money being splashed.
In the first half I thought we created a lot of chances and we’re just a tad slow to react to the space created or a retreating defence.
Overall though it was great seeing us play with confidence and a fairly attacking style.
@Crazy-Horse said in FIFA World Cup:
@canefan said in FIFA World Cup:
@Kiwiwomble said in FIFA World Cup:
one game and he is the NZ all-time top goal scorer at a FIFA World Cup
If they can try to establish Wood in the box again
That made me giggle.
Not to mention the Tunisian coach getting the sack
@canefan said in FIFA World Cup:
@mariner4life said in FIFA World Cup:
lol Tunisia have sacked their coach after they got pumped. He's only been in charge for 5 games after they sacked the last bloke. Sick team name though "The Eagles of Carthage".
They have a history of sacking
Well played
@bayimports said in FIFA World Cup:
back to even, 1-1 Iran capitalize
I watched it back a few times and it still looks like offside
@MiketheSnow said in FIFA World Cup:
@bayimports said in FIFA World Cup:
back to even, 1-1 Iran capitalize
I watched it back a few times and it still looks like offside
Is there no VAR at WC26?
I saw Egypt's goal vs Belgium, it was very well taken. We will have to be better defensively than against Iran
@canefan said in FIFA World Cup:
@MiketheSnow said in FIFA World Cup:
@bayimports said in FIFA World Cup:
back to even, 1-1 Iran capitalize
I watched it back a few times and it still looks like offside
Is there no VAR at WC26?
Yep
But there's already been controversy
@Bovidae said in FIFA World Cup:
NZ deserved a point. If only some of those crosses had more quality. Surman immense.
Yeah - thought Surman was our best player, though I imagine Just was our MotM.
@MiketheSnow said in FIFA World Cup:
@canefan said in FIFA World Cup:
@MiketheSnow said in FIFA World Cup:
@bayimports said in FIFA World Cup:
back to even, 1-1 Iran capitalize
I watched it back a few times and it still looks like offside
Is there no VAR at WC26?
Yep
But there's already been controversy
I didn't notice any checks on Iran's first goal
@canefan said in FIFA World Cup:
@MiketheSnow said in FIFA World Cup:
@canefan said in FIFA World Cup:
@MiketheSnow said in FIFA World Cup:
@bayimports said in FIFA World Cup:
back to even, 1-1 Iran capitalize
I watched it back a few times and it still looks like offside
Is there no VAR at WC26?
Yep
But there's already been controversy
I didn't notice any checks on Iran's first goal
That's exactly my point
@MiketheSnow said in FIFA World Cup:
@canefan said in FIFA World Cup:
@MiketheSnow said in FIFA World Cup:
@canefan said in FIFA World Cup:
@MiketheSnow said in FIFA World Cup:
@bayimports said in FIFA World Cup:
back to even, 1-1 Iran capitalize
I watched it back a few times and it still looks like offside
Is there no VAR at WC26?
Yep
But there's already been controversy
I didn't notice any checks on Iran's first goal
That's exactly my point
I'd like to see a still shot
The games I’ve watched the reviews have been pretty good. The best being the overturning of dodgy on field YCs when would be injured players were not even hit.
But as Mike said, there has been controversy (which is to be expected).
The games I have watched the refs have erred on the side of play-on as opposed to blowing up every contact for a foul.
Has contributed to entertaining games.
@KiwiMurph said in FIFA World Cup:
The games I have watched the refs have erred on the side of play-on as opposed to blowing up every contact for a foul.
Has contributed to entertaining games.
Yes, I was pleased that our ref didn't fall for early Iranian attempts to simulate fouls. Once they knew they weren't going to get calls they got on with it
@canefan said in FIFA World Cup:
Looks onside to me
Was just going to post that
NZ player kicks the ball towards goal first, then the Iranian.
When the Iranian kicks it I believe the goalscorer was in front of the last NZ defender
Feet and arms
Not a great angle. I thought the guy in the middle put the goalscorer onside. Need a slide rule shot to see.
The second goal was more disappointing. No one came out to challenge the Iranian winger, and we had two or three defenders in the box who failed to pick up the goal scorer
@canefan said in FIFA World Cup:
Not a great angle. I thought the guy in the middle put the goalscorer onside. Need a slide rule shot to see
They have those, didn't show it
@MiketheSnow said in FIFA World Cup:
@canefan said in FIFA World Cup:
Not a great angle. I thought the guy in the middle put the goalscorer onside. Need a slide rule shot to see
They have those, didn't show it
See my edit above re-the second goal. The vision is much more basic than EPL style VAR. Which I think is overdone. It was close enough that I don't think we should feel ripped off
If we can plug the holes at the back, I hope we continue to try and attack Egypt in the same manner as we did today
@booboo said in FIFA World Cup:
Unbeaten at World Cup Finals for 44 years.
And the last team to beat us, the great Brazil of 82, Zico, Socrates, Falcao etc.
Took a great team to beat us…
@MiketheSnow said in FIFA World Cup:
@canefan said in FIFA World Cup:
@MiketheSnow said in FIFA World Cup:
@bayimports said in FIFA World Cup:
back to even, 1-1 Iran capitalize
I watched it back a few times and it still looks like offside
Is there no VAR at WC26?
Yep
But there's already been controversy
VAR? No...
@westie_boy said in FIFA World Cup:
@booboo said in FIFA World Cup:
Unbeaten at World Cup Finals for 44 years.
And the last team to beat us, the great Brazil of 82, Zico, Socrates, Falcao etc.
Took a great team to beat us…
Eder for some reason is a name that sticks with me ...
Just caught the end of the SBS wrap up show.
Who was the Kiwi chick interviewing Just and Bazeley?
@booboo said in FIFA World Cup:
@westie_boy said in FIFA World Cup:
@booboo said in FIFA World Cup:
Unbeaten at World Cup Finals for 44 years.
And the last team to beat us, the great Brazil of 82, Zico, Socrates, Falcao etc.
Took a great team to beat us…Eder for some reason is a name that sticks with me ...
Oscar and Junior
@westie_boy and Scotland and CCCP (Russia) just prior to that.
@Pepe said in FIFA World Cup:
@westie_boy and Scotland and CCCP (Russia) just prior to that.
Vs Scotland 5-2
Vs CCCP 3-0
Vs Brazil 4-0
I remember getting up and listening on the radio because the NZ games weren't televised (or we weren't able to watch them all). My memories of the cup included Glenn Hoddle riding the pine for England in favour of the more doughy Ray Wilkins, the French player being taken out in the SF by the German goalkeeper. The guy was stretchered off with multiple injuries, perpetuating the idea that West Germany was the evil empire of football. And Dino Zoff and his Azzurri team winning the cup in great style
@Bovidae said in FIFA World Cup:
NZ deserved a point. If only some of those crosses had more quality. Surman immense.
Was a masterstroke putting him at centre back. Didn't see a spot for him in the team otherwise but yeah, he was comfortable there.
If we want someone with a better delivery, then Francis De Vries is the man, but Bazeley does tend to go conservative with selections. I would have maybe pushed Cacace higher up and sacrificed McCowatt. Was also annoyed that Jesse Randall came on so late, he ahould have been introduced at least 10 mins earlier for Singh, who did play well, but was beginning to tire. Randall is perfect to play on the break. I know he's an internet sensation, but Tim Payne was average I thought. Mistimed passes, shaky at times on defence, but there's not a lot of competition at right back so he'll most likely stay there.
Having said all that, it was good. Not expecting much from the next games, but the performance today gives us a glimmer of hope.
