@nonpartizan said in FIFA World Cup:
Classic case of a reactive rather than proactive approach to substituting.
yep
was guna put the reactive bit in there
tuchel kinda went into panic mode
scaloni was cool calm and calculating
and ratcheted up the pressure
@Catogrande said in FIFA World Cup:
Well I caved in and decided to watch the game, then caved in again 5 minutes after we scored and went to bed. It was atypical England strategy: cede the midfield, defend far too deep and don't pressure the opposition. When will we learn that this rarely works at this level? Never is my guess. Manager after manager has reverted to mean over the years and this is part of the reason I find watching England play footie so boring and frustrating.
I don't think the media hype around the England football team helps them at all. So much bluster and bollocks.
Best way forwards for them would be to learn from Clive Woodward's manta and to Think Correctly Under Pressure.
@Catogrande said in FIFA World Cup:
Well I caved in and decided to watch the game, then caved in again 5 minutes after we scored and went to bed. It was atypical England strategy: cede the midfield, defend far too deep and don't pressure the opposition. When will we learn that this rarely works at this level? Never is my guess. Manager after manager has reverted to mean over the years and this is part of the reason I find watching England play footie so boring and frustrating.
You went to bed with 30 minutes left in a WC Semi with your team leading 1-0?
Extraordinary!
@canefan said in FIFA World Cup:
@mohikamo I have no problem with England being defensive. But they went way too far back, and failed to mount any sort of press. Argentina were able to work it around with almost no fear of being turned over and attacked on the counter
Even watching the highlights only, the amount of time they gave to Messi on the ball to get in those dangerous crosses was baffling.
@sparky said in FIFA World Cup:
@Catogrande said in FIFA World Cup:
Well I caved in and decided to watch the game, then caved in again 5 minutes after we scored and went to bed. It was atypical England strategy: cede the midfield, defend far too deep and don't pressure the opposition. When will we learn that this rarely works at this level? Never is my guess. Manager after manager has reverted to mean over the years and this is part of the reason I find watching England play footie so boring and frustrating.
I don't think the media hype around the England football team helps them at all. So much bluster and bollocks.
Best way forwards for them would be to learn from Clive Woodward's manta and to Think Correctly Under Pressure.
It comes with the extremely highly paid job.
The office consensus is one of acceptance as Argies were better and deserved it.
It’s always a good run supporting them until the inevitable!
@MiketheSnow said in FIFA World Cup:
Something else I was thinking about was how no Man U or Liverpool players were in the England starting XI.
@voodoo said in FIFA World Cup:
@Catogrande said in FIFA World Cup:
Well I caved in and decided to watch the game, then caved in again 5 minutes after we scored and went to bed. It was atypical England strategy: cede the midfield, defend far too deep and don't pressure the opposition. When will we learn that this rarely works at this level? Never is my guess. Manager after manager has reverted to mean over the years and this is part of the reason I find watching England play footie so boring and frustrating.
You went to bed with 30 minutes left in a WC Semi with your team leading 1-0?
Extraordinary!
Yes that's the sad part about it but I didn't want to see the inevitable unfold. Again.
Anyone watching the worthless playoff for 3rd?
England doing a Germany v Brazil 2014 at the moment
Almost halftime and are up 4-0
England trashing France 4-0 in the world's most pointless game.
England look like men unburdened now they aren't playing with the weight of history of their shoulders. France look like they've been smoking fags and drinking vin rogue for four days.
Perhaps England weren't that bad? And Argentina put perhaps one of the cleverest performances of all time to frustrate them?
@sparky said in FIFA World Cup:
Perhaps England weren't that bad? And Argentina put perhaps one of the cleverest performances of all time to frustrate them?
Both can be true?
France get 2 back in the first 10 minutes of the second half. England looking leggy already. 4-2.
@MiketheSnow said in FIFA World Cup:
Game of the Tournament by a country mile
Fabulous
Chapeau to France to make it a contest
A classic!
Somewhere Kevin Keegan is smiling and telling everyone "that's how football should be played."
If Tuchel is retained, he should look at this game as a blueprint for the Euros. Parking the bus is not in their DNA, they should play to their strengths, better to lose that way than die whimpering. Also, pays to rotate the squad wherever possible, to keep players fresh for the big games
@canefan said in FIFA World Cup:
Both can be true?
yep
bit of both
and i also blame the england players just as much as the coach for what happened
it was the england players who first decided to park it
pretty sure that wasn't the coaches plan
as the leaders, kane and bellingham have to take some responsibility for that
after the argentines compounded the problem with their play, tuchel then panicked
made the wrong changes and compounded the problem even more
very interesting how it played out . . . for a neutral
one thing you can be sure of tomorrow . . .
SPAIN ARE NOT GOING TO PARK IT IF THEY ARE UP BY ONE OR TWO
@Fale009 said in FIFA World Cup:
Of course the meaningless game is the first time we've seen free flowing football since probably the round of 32. So good to watch
saw hardly any leg slide tackles
Spain are far more sophisticated than England. If they get ahead they will have a far better chance to shut Argentina down
@canefan said in FIFA World Cup:
If Tuchel is retained, he should look at this game as a blueprint for the Euros. Parking the bus is not in their DNA, they should play to their strengths, better to lose that way than die whimpering. Also, pays to rotate the squad wherever possible, to keep players fresh for the big games
Definitely
First and last matches for England were a breath of fresh air
They might not win every match, but every opponent knows they have to score goals, and lots of them to beat an attack oriented England side.
And for the neutral it makes the matches exciting as fuck
Dull final so far.
Spain had an early chance but there's been very little else to remember from the first 23 minutes of this
@Fale009 said in FIFA World Cup:
Typical Licha. Looks good during the World Cup and gets injured before he has to go back to United.
That's just like Romero with Spurs. Taking the piss
