NC: Springboks vs Wales

OomPB

Springbok team to face Wales in Durban:
15 Aphelele Fassi (Toshiba) – 16 caps, 35 pts (7t)
14 Jaco Williams (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – uncapped
13 Jesse Kriel (Canon Eagles) – 89 caps, 110 pts (22t)
12 Damian de Allende (Wild Knights) – 98 caps, 55 pts (11t)
11 Kurt-Lee Arendse (Mitsubishi Dynaboars) – 31 caps, 120 pts (24t)
10 Vusi Moyo (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – uncapped
9 Cobus Reinach (DHL Stormers) – 51 caps, 95 pts (19t)

8 Jasper Wiese (Urayasu D-Rocks) – 45 caps, 15 pts (3t)
7 Pieter-Steph du Toit (captain, Toyota Verblitz) – 97 caps, 70 pts (14t)
6 Paul de Villiers (DHL Stormers) – 2 cap, 0 pts
5 Ruben van Heerden (Montpellier) – uncapped
4 Cobus Wiese (Vodacom Bulls) – 3 caps, 0 pts
3 Carlu Sadie (Bordeaux Begles) – uncapped
2 Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears) – 88 caps, 135 pts (27t)
1 Gerhard Steenekamp (Vodacom Bulls) – 17 caps, 10 pts (2t)

Replacements:
16 Andre-Hugo Venter (DHL Stormers) – 1 cap, 5 pts (1 t)
17 Jan-Hendrik Wessels (Vodacom Bulls) – 11 caps, 10 pts (2t)
18 Wilco Louw (DHL Stormers) – 30 caps, 10 pts (2t)
19 Ben-Jason Dixon (DHL Stormers) – 9 caps, 10 pts (2t)
20 Marco van Staden (Vodacom Bulls) – 34 caps, 15 pts (3t)
21 Herschel Jantjies (Bayonne) – 24 caps, 25 pts (5t)
22 Manie Libbok (Kintetsu Liners) – 29 caps, 145 pts (2t, 48c, 13p)
23 Damian Willemse (DHL Stormers) – 51 caps, 76 pts (8t, 9c, 4p, 2dg)

Stats and facts:

Springbok record against Wales:

Played 44; Won 36; Lost 7; Drawn 1; Points for: 1 230; Points against; 683; Tries scored: 145; Tries conceded: 57; Highest score: 96-13; Biggest win: 83 points. Win %: 81,8%.

Miscellaneous:

After Saturday’s clash, Damian de Allende will require only one more Test appearance after this match to earn his 100th Test cap, while Pieter-Steph du Toit will only require two more to achieve that remarkable milestone.
Cobus Reinach requires only one more try to move to 100 Test points in the green and gold.
Pieter-Steph du Toit will lead the Boks for the third time in as many weeks in this weekend’s encounter.
Should the Springboks register a victory, it will mark their 11th Test win in a row.
The teams have met only once in Durban in 2014 – a game the Springboks won 38-16.
The last time the teams crossed paths in South Africa was in 2022, when the Springboks won two of their three matches.
The total Test caps in the Springbok starting line-up are 537.
There are 285 caps in the backline, with 252 caps among the forwards. On the bench, there are a further 188 caps.
The average caps per player in the backline is 41, the forwards 32, while the players on the bench average 24.

antipodean

This could be a mauling. Children should be supervised watching this fixture.

ACT Crusader

The hubris of the Springboks listing how many individual points each player has racked up.

Mr Fish

Look at South Africa, throwing in a young 10 who hasn't even played professionally yet, and it took NZ how long to finally give Ruben Love a go?

Big game for Moyo. Has great players around him.

Tordah

ABs 2005-2007 levels of depth.

MiketheSnow

Hopefully it won't be another Loftus massacre

Although that was a catalyst to a very bright period in Welsh rugby

MiketheSnow

Carter must be injured for Beard to be still in the mix

New centre partnership

Decent lock and back row bench

Be lucky to keep SA under 50 and within 50

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OomPB

Springboks vs Wales are always close.

OomPB

The U20 JWC final is in the same timeframe as the test.

pooler fan

If this was a boxing match the referee would've stopped it by now

ACT Crusader

The line speed of the Boks is bamboozling the Welsh.

Who is this ref though, he’s a bit all over the show.

W32

Scrappy game with poor handling skills from the boks

If the handling and humidity was better this would be a massacre.

W32

Moyo disappoints.

MiketheSnow

Expected result

Better scoreline than I was envisioning

We gave up easy possession and territory

First up tackling was woeful

PN

No match thread for the JRWC final? I'll take the opportunity to gently remind our friends in the Hermit Kingdom that the Baby Boks are back-to-back world champions... just like the Springboks. 😉

@PN said in NC: Springboks vs Wales:

No match thread for the JRWC final? I'll take the opportunity to gently remind our friends in the Hermit Kingdom that the Baby Boks are back-to-back world champions... just like the Springboks. 😉

Well done. Been done before. Let us know when they 3-peat. Or 4-peat 😉

Boks are the 2nd team to win back to back WCs and JWCs. Nice of your boys to finally come to the party 😂

OomPB

Ahmed is going to be the next SMZ.

Nepia

Why the fuck are Wales playing in white? This away strip malarky shits me.

PN

@stodders said in NC: Springboks vs Wales:

@PN said in NC: Springboks vs Wales:

No match thread for the JRWC final? I'll take the opportunity to gently remind our friends in the Hermit Kingdom that the Baby Boks are back-to-back world champions... just like the Springboks. 😉

Well done. Been done before. Let us know when they 3-peat. Or 4-peat 😉

Boks are the 2nd team to win back to back WCs and JWCs. Nice of your boys to finally come to the party 😂

That's the hope! 😄 The Baby Blacks didn't just win junior World Cups—they developed into the Whitelock, Retallick, Cane and Beauden Barrett generation that dominated the next decade. If our Baby Boks can make that same leap, it should bode well for a continued dominance at the senior level.

Where do you think it all went wrong for All Black rugby?

Poor Structures?
Losing players overseas?
Private equity?
Or something else?

Mr Fish

@Nepia said in NC: Springboks vs Wales:

Why the fuck are Wales playing in white? This away strip malarky shits me.

Green and red is very bad for those who are colour blind.

OomPB

The debutants Sadie and van Heerden will make any international team.

@PN said in NC: Springboks vs Wales:

@stodders said in NC: Springboks vs Wales:

@PN said in NC: Springboks vs Wales:

No match thread for the JRWC final? I'll take the opportunity to gently remind our friends in the Hermit Kingdom that the Baby Boks are back-to-back world champions... just like the Springboks. 😉

Well done. Been done before. Let us know when they 3-peat. Or 4-peat 😉

Boks are the 2nd team to win back to back WCs and JWCs. Nice of your boys to finally come to the party 😂

That's the hope! 😄 The Baby Blacks didn't just win junior World Cups—they developed into the Whitelock, Retallick, Cane and Beauden Barrett generation that dominated the next decade. If our Baby Boks can make that same leap, it should bode well for a continued dominance at the senior level.

Where do you think it all went wrong for All Black rugby?

Poor Structures?
Losing players overseas?
Private equity?i
Or something else?

Where has what gone wrong for All Black rugby?

In the U20’s in rugby in general?

I hope everyone in SA has the same attitude as you that it has all gone wrong for All Black rugby.

@DaGrubster said in NC: Springboks vs Wales:

@PN said in NC: Springboks vs Wales:

@stodders said in NC: Springboks vs Wales:

@PN said in NC: Springboks vs Wales:

No match thread for the JRWC final? I'll take the opportunity to gently remind our friends in the Hermit Kingdom that the Baby Boks are back-to-back world champions... just like the Springboks. 😉

Well done. Been done before. Let us know when they 3-peat. Or 4-peat 😉

Boks are the 2nd team to win back to back WCs and JWCs. Nice of your boys to finally come to the party 😂

That's the hope! 😄 The Baby Blacks didn't just win junior World Cups—they developed into the Whitelock, Retallick, Cane and Beauden Barrett generation that dominated the next decade. If our Baby Boks can make that same leap, it should bode well for a continued dominance at the senior level.

Where do you think it all went wrong for All Black rugby?

Poor Structures?
Losing players overseas?
Private equity?i
Or something else?

Where has what gone wrong for All Black rugby?

In the U20’s in rugby in general?

I hope everyone in SA has the same attitude as you that it has all gone wrong for All Black rugby.

It isn’t as strong as it has been, in fairness. Boks have lifted their game and structures. NZ has to do likewise. Big job for Conrad Smith

Kirwan

@mr-fish said in NC: Springboks vs Wales:

@Nepia said in NC: Springboks vs Wales:

Why the fuck are Wales playing in white? This away strip malarky shits me.

Green and red is very bad for those who are colour blind.

I'm colour blind and would rather the home kits. The majority of people aren't, so changing for a minority like that is dumb.

OomPB

SA rugby have to deal with quotas. The restrictions is now even bigger at Craven Week. The provinces now must select players from disadvantage schools. We saw the hosts , Eastern Province chairman chaging the team after trials and the team selected without consultation with the coach and selectors. In short they aren't allowed to just select PoC from strong rugby schools.
So developing players is on another level. The biggest reason for our stronger schoolboy structure came since Covid. The top schools coaches earn more money then Currie Cup coaches. Schoolboy rugby is professional since live streaming on Super Schools.

W32

@OomPB said in NC: Springboks vs Wales:

SA rugby have to deal with quotas. The restrictions is now even bigger at Craven Week. The provinces now must select players from disadvantage schools. We saw the hosts , Eastern Province chairman chaging the team after trials and the team selected without consultation with the coach and selectors. In short they aren't allowed to just select PoC from strong rugby schools.
So developing players is on another level. The biggest reason for our stronger schoolboy structure came since Covid. The top schools coaches earn more money than Currie Cup coaches. Schoolboy rugby is professional since live streaming on Super Schools.

Is that true? I thought quotas had been done away with. In any event, SA rugby is probably the strongest it’s ever been.