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Match thread
Wobblies I
Unfortunately no story here. Just a genuine injury to a reserve prop requiring a like for like replacement.
Schmidt however, was the first to blink by dropping a forward for a reserve 10. (Rightly so, Madness to be reliant on a 35 y/o SR part timer)
@booboo said in Boks v Wobblies I:
@PN said in Boks v Wobblies I:
Unfortunately no story here
But Rassie.
Still a genius.
The reeducation camp youve been attending has finally got reality sinking in mate!
@MiketheSnow Heard that before Mike. Pride comes before a fall, and the Boks are not always at their best when they are heavily favoured.
One red card could change a lot 
@stodders said in Boks v Wobblies I:
@MiketheSnow Heard that before Mike. Pride comes before a fall, and the Boks are not always at their best when they are heavily favoured.
One red card could change a lot
So Mike’s neutral take on the match somehow becomes, in your view, “Springbok arrogance”? That’s quite a leap.
Out of interest—what exactly was the moment that marked the All Blacks’ own “pride before a fall”?
Some commentary and second guessing I'm not following on this thread...
So here's my uneducated view:
Boks favourites. Why? Because they're good, and at home, and at altitude - always an adjustment.
BUT: I believe this is is a vastly underrated Wallaby team. They have been well hardened by the Lions Tour. Being underdogs is going to play into their hands. They could (need to) front up to Bok aggression in the pack, and if they do, they have some electric players out wide. This will be a close one.
@PN 2007. Thrashed the French 3 times in 12 months, then turned up without the necessary fire in that Quarter Final. It was a necessary lesson for them to learn that took them to back to back WCs and domination in between.
As for the Boks, they aren’t really more arrogant than any other team. My comment was more directed at some of their fans and media, who are reaching insufferable levels at the moment. (Note the word some before clambering up on your high horse).
Anyone talks about rugby online, it is swiftly hijacked by a Bok fan pointing out a perceived sleight against them or not giving them enough love or admiration 
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Were NZ fans arrogant during the golden years? Sure. Did people hurl bile at them? Yep. Bok fans have claimed the mantle now. If you don’t believe me, have a Quick Look on X or rugby forums and you’ll find the ones I refer to
@PN I didn’t say the Boks were arrogant in my response to Mike. Mike was supremely confident that the Boks will thump the Wallabies in 3rd gear. My pride comes before a fall was aimed towards Mike.
Yet you spun it to be about the Boks
See my previous post and add yourself to the list of anecdotal evidence
@stodders said in Boks v Wobblies I:
@PN I didn’t say the Boks were arrogant in my response to Mike. Mike was supremely confident that the Boks will thump the Wallabies in 3rd gear. My pride comes before a fall was aimed towards Mike.
Still am and only had one sip of my Guinness 
I’m missing this game for what I believe is a fair excuse: emergency call up to our 3rd grade side at [drumroll] … 10. Once I was assured the Club would provide hair gel couldn’t turn down the chance to hunt ruckrats and 1st5s from where they’d least expect it.
@MiketheSnow you may have been right Mike
Do the Wallabies have any defensive line speed at all? Looks like their feet are in concrete.
@stodders said in Boks v Wobblies I:
@MiketheSnow you may have been right Mike
Do the Wallabies have any defensive line speed at all? Looks like their feet are in concrete.
Joe hates line speed.
@akan004 said in Boks v Wobblies I:
@stodders said in Boks v Wobblies I:
@MiketheSnow you may have been right Mike
Do the Wallabies have any defensive line speed at all? Looks like their feet are in concrete.
Joe hates line speed.
Joe is also repeatedly let down by players with no mental strength when it matters (Ireland and Australia)
@MiketheSnow gave benefit of the doubt given how many times the Boks are offending at the breakdown.
Getting close to warning time for the Boks. Their breakdown accuracy has been quite poor.
@stodders said in Boks v Wobblies I:
@MiketheSnow gave benefit of the doubt given how many times the Boks are offending at the breakdown.
Getting close to warning time for the Boks. Their breakdown accuracy has been quite poor.
Both sides loose and flying in off their feet
Joe Schmidt seems to be living on pre Farrell Ireland reputation.. hasn’t added much to any team he’s been involved with since then, and Ireland have been better under Farrell. A bit like Plumtree. Posers
@W32 said in Boks v Wobblies I:
Joe Schmidt seems to be living on pre Farrell Ireland reputation.. hasn’t added much to any team he’s been involved with since then, and Ireland have been better under Farrell. A bit like Plumtree. Posers
That’s simply not true. He completely turned Ireland around from nothing, immediately improved the All Blacks when he became involved, and this current crop of Wallabies is better than the crop under Rennie or 2019 Cheika. The reality is that until the Wallabies get rid of the likes of White, Slipper, and the rest of the old crop, they’re next to uncoachable
Big take home for me from the Lions series was how poor the Australian defence was in Tests 1 and 2.
Rassie and Tony Brown were taking notes.
@sparky said in Boks v Wobblies I:
Big take home for me from the Lions series was how poor the Australian defence was in Tests 1 and 2.
Rassie and Tony Brown were taking notes.
And at the breakdown someone is targeting Skelton below the knee to stop him stepping over and counter rucking / taking players out