@His-Bobness said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@Victor-Meldrew Yes, they’re playing with real self-belief despite an horrific run with injuries. There’s a never-say-die element to their play and they have some real game-breakers in the likes of Valetini, Ikitau and Jorgensen
Impressed with the way they handle pressure too. There's a real togetherness with this crop of players.
Boks underwhelming but they know how to see themselves home in the last fifteen minutes of a tight one.
Another highly impressive Wallabies performance. Take a bow, Joe Schmidt.
@Victor-Meldrew said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@JayCee said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
The Wallabies could walk away with both Rugby Championship and the Bledisloe.
A really tight RC would be great.
No it wouldn't. The All Blacks beating everyone by 50+ points would be great.
@Jet said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
Expected the Boks to give Oz a real mullering after last week but really impressed with the Oz performance.
Either the Boks are weak or the Bledisloe will be in serious danger this year.
Without sounding like a sour grape-ist, the Boks have been living a charmed life for ages.
Robbed England in semi final. Robbed us in the final.
They have been getting the rub of the green with calls for years.
Chickens. Roost. Etc
Not to mean thin French quarter which BOK completely screwed up.
@KiwiMurph said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
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@pakman said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
Boks fans delirious about getting lucky. The disallowed try is the difference.
Possibly an incorrect call too.
It was the correct call. Just went back and had another look. It went forward separately off of both Kellaway's hands
My slow mo isn’t good enough to isolate that. TV pictures inconclusive.
@pakman said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
By Bled the Wobbly squad will be weakened by quite a few required to play NH club rugby.
Big challenge this TRC, could be making of this AB side if they can win it and retain the Bledisloe.
@sparky said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@pakman Can't the ARU demand their release.
I think it’s outside the window. Can potentially pay a release fee.
@sparky said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@JayCee said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
The Wallabies could walk away with both Rugby Championship and the Bledisloe.
A really tight RC would be great.
No it wouldn't. The All Blacks beating everyone by 50+ points would be great.
Ah yes. the 2016-2019 glory days...
@W32 said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@Jet said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
Expected the Boks to give Oz a real mullering after last week but really impressed with the Oz performance.
Either the Boks are weak or the Bledisloe will be in serious danger this year.
Without sounding like a sour grape-ist, the Boks have been living a charmed life for ages.
Robbed England in semi final. Robbed us in the final.
They have been getting the rub of the green with calls for years.
Chickens. Roost. Etc
Hilarious.
Genuinely not on a windup.
Water carriers and physios on pitch at inopportune moments. Tactical injuries.
Disingenuous use of the HIA protocols. Youtube diatribes about referees and calls.
Yellows where opponents get reds.
A lot of bounce of the ball games where they were very lucky to get the rub.
RWC 2023 was barely believable from 1/4's onwards.
Playing the race card by stealth in Lions tour saying Kolisi didnt get same respect from refs as opposition captains, which helped turn the series.
I could go on.
Rassie is a great coach and id go into the trenches with/for him.
But they havnt revolutionised the game or anything. It has been more skullduggery than innovation.
Just watched the replay ..
Really noticed this game was slowed down a lot more at anu stoppage than last weeks - I had to skip fwd a lot more today.
Tate McDermont was pretty poor - shame White had to go so early
Malcolm Marx is every bit a whinger
Kwagga Smith must have conceded the most penalties for an individual in this game.
Valetini is bloody good
High ball, particularly accurate box kicks caused both teams a lot problems.
ABs have a lot of work to do
@Mattasaurus said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
Just watched the replay ..
Really noticed this game was slowed down a lot more at anu stoppage than last weeks - I had to skip fwd a lot more today.
Tate McDermont was pretty poor - shame White had to go so early
Malcolm Marx is every bit a whinger
Kwagga Smith must have conceded the most penalties for an individual in this game.
Valetini is bloody goodHigh ball, particularly accurate box kicks caused both teams a lot problems.
ABs have a lot of work to do
Marx is always in the refs ear about foul play, high shots etc. He loves a bit of panto.
Geez that was a good bloody test. Wallabies certainly a team that is playing some good rugby, and Boks still looking pretty hard. Really enjoyable, recorded it , got up 6.30 just watched it great lead into Puma's/AB test. I do love this time of year.
Great game , I found myself supporting the wallabies even though I think a 1-1 result is the best thing for the ABs .
@Dan54 said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
Geez that was a good bloody test. Wallabies certainly a team that is playing some good rugby, and Boks still looking pretty hard. Really enjoyable, recorded it , got up 6.30 just watched it great lead into Puma's/AB test. I do love this time of year.
Yeah, hard to judge the boks. Clearly wallabies are one of the form teams in world rugby.
Was expecting more from the boks today.
Kinda reminds me of 2018, when the boks beat us in Wellington. There was lots of talk about putting things right etc but we got hammered for most of the match, i think we only won about 13 rucks in the first half of that match.
We ended up winning (2 late tries - last by Ardie) but it felt undeserved and it was then that i realised we were probably not going to win RWC19.
Similar feeling with the boks over these 2 matches
@JayCee said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
Expected the Boks to give Oz a real mullering after last week but really impressed with the Oz performance.
Either the Boks are weak or the Bledisloe will be in serious danger this year.
Bledisloe is going to be epic.
With a win in SA, and playing Argentina at home (very realistic 2 wins - this will be the real indicator, if they can put the Argies away).
The Wallabies could walk away with both Rugby Championship and the Bledisloe.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the wallabies value the bledisloe above the rugby championship and throw everything at that .
And then with the boks supposedly wanting the eden park record , we have some tough matches ahead for certain.
Pretty happy with that from the Wallabies. Looked with 10 to go like we might pinch it, which would have been just amazing considering our injury toll.
Forwards played with so much heart. Our tactic seemed to be 'try and beat them up close to the ruck', which against the Boks in SA seems like a death wish. But jeez did it almost work! Valetini, Skelton, Hooper, Tupou all great shifts in the tight stuff.
Would have loved to pinch the win but it was still a good watch, great physical rugby from both teams.
During the week Rassie made a sly dig about the Wallabies playing "a style that I don't think will win the next world cup".
Particularly funny given he went back to a style that won him the last 2, in order to save face at home.
Anyway saw the highlights. Pitch looked like shit. Bit of chaos ball from both sides return kicking being the mainstay
@NTA said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
During the week Rassie made a sly dig about the Wallabies playing "a style that I don't think will win the next world cup".
Particularly funny given he went back to a style that won him the last 2, in order to save face at home.
Anyway saw the highlights. Pitch looked like shit. Bit of chaos ball from both sides return kicking being the mainstay
The over use of the midfield bomb was well and truely back.
The JOC missed kick was a critical turning point I thought.
Overall a decent game and Pollard made a big difference for the Boks. The forward were pretty even.
@OomPB said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
JOC is is the Wallabies version of Libbok.
Harsh
He was instrumental in Australia winning the match last week
Think he took a knock
@OomPB said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@NTA Mate did you watched the two WCs. Two totally different oppositions and play style.
Did you watch them?
Big tight five forwards with limited fitness and kick for the sky. That's the plan. It worked and good on them.
Watching back now.
Firrst scrum penalty was a joke. Ox drops his bind and turned in, driving up to try and make it look like Tupou was under pressure. No forward momentum from the Boks.
Doleman gamed. Big time.
Blaming the ref after a loss is so Aussie. Move on, your team played some great rugby and deserve more then blaming the ref.
@OomPB said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
Blaming the ref after a loss is so Aussie.
It is so VERY South African to jump in and make that sort of comment when I've talked about literally one decision early in the game.
I'm certainly not about to go making a 40 minute video ranting about how my country is the victim of decisions and implying racism is the root cause
Noticeable in the Bok defence early is the role Pollard plays on edge defence - does a lot of organising.
I was at the game and haven't watched a TV replay, so I can't comment on any of the tight calls.
Of course I am happy with the Bok win.
BUT - at no point did I feel confident. I thought the Wallabies were excellent and but for a few missed kicks, this result could have looked different.
I don't know whether it is Boks being weak, or the Aussies being strong, but from what I saw, the Wallabies won the forward exchanges. Parity in the scrums - excepting one penalty - superb in the lineout, and better than the Boks at the breakdown. Take the Bok forwards out of the game and then we are vulnerable.
My respect to Aussie.
Hopefully the Boks can build on this, and fast, otherwise the 2 games in NZ are going to be tough to watch.
