@akan004 said in France vs Springboks:

@Steven-Harris said in France vs Springboks:

Is this a permanent Red ?

Yep

So Ireland's was a 20 min red, SAs is off for the entire match?

@JayCee said in France vs Springboks:

@akan004 said in France vs Springboks:

@Steven-Harris said in France vs Springboks:

Is this a permanent Red ?

Yep

So Ireland's was a 20 min red, SAs is off for the entire match?

No, don't think so?

@Bovidae said in France vs Springboks:

@Jet said in France vs Springboks:

Angus doesnt want to send him off.

He wants to abdicate to the bunker.

The conversation between Gardner, the ARs and TMO was telling. Democracy ruled in the end. A tucked arm (ala SBW) is never a good look.

But a tucked arm isn't a red card. WR clarified this with the Beirne Decision.

@JayCee said in France vs Springboks:

@akan004 said in France vs Springboks:

@Steven-Harris said in France vs Springboks:

Is this a permanent Red ?

Yep

So Ireland's was a 20 min red, SAs is off for the entire match?

Correct. There's the option of issuing a permanent red under the current red card rules.

What promised to be a great game is disappointing

@akan004 said in France vs Springboks:

@JayCee said in France vs Springboks:

@akan004 said in France vs Springboks:

@Steven-Harris said in France vs Springboks:

Is this a permanent Red ?

Yep

So Ireland's was a 20 min red, SAs is off for the entire match?

Correct. There's the option of issuing a permanent red under the current red card rules.

i did not know that was a thing

@W32 said in France vs Springboks:

@Jet said in France vs Springboks:

@W32 said in France vs Springboks:

@Jet said in France vs Springboks:

Angus doesnt want to send him off.

He wants to abdicate to the bunker.

Geeze, rugbys getting soft eh?

For me it is yeah.

Much preferred it circa 2001 Lions Tour to 2006 approx.

Oh I thought you thought angus should have sent him off straightaway. My bad

He should have yeah based on what we have gotten used to over last 10 years or so.

My point was Angus was reluctant to do what needed to be done.

France have not played the 2nd half with a man advantage well. SA could win this.

How is that not a PT? Remove the infringement and Kriel walks in. Ramos was miles away.

@akan004 said in France vs Springboks:

France have not played the 2nd half with a man advantage well. SA could win this.

Something we have in common with France this weekend

@Jet said in France vs Springboks:

@W32 said in France vs Springboks:

@Jet said in France vs Springboks:

@W32 said in France vs Springboks:

@Jet said in France vs Springboks:

Angus doesnt want to send him off.

He wants to abdicate to the bunker.

Geeze, rugbys getting soft eh?

For me it is yeah.

Much preferred it circa 2001 Lions Tour to 2006 approx.

Oh I thought you thought angus should have sent him off straightaway. My bad

He should have yeah based on what we have gotten used to over last 10 years or so.

My point was Angus was reluctant to do what needed to be done.

Yeah angus is a shit ref

Williams is a freak.

SA are truly a champion team. So much of composure and fight shown by them. Easily the best team in the world.

Does Gardner breath between lecturing the players?

Technically he is ok, but he has zero feel for the game

France are shit

@W32 said in France vs Springboks:

Technically he is ok, but he has zero feel for the game

That may be right but at least he knows the crap time wasting tactics by the Boks that other refs don’t even say a thing.

@ACT-Crusader said in France vs Springboks:

@W32 said in France vs Springboks:

Technically he is ok, but he has zero feel for the game

That may be right but at least he knows the crap time wasting tactics by the Boks that other refs don’t even say a thing.

lol

Come on angus grow a pair

The Springboks are the clearly the best side in the world in 2025.

France are abjectly poor and some of their players have given up.

France have gone backwards from this time last year.

Huge decision from Gardner

If that try had been disallowed then we would be down to touch rugby

SA impressive

France was shit in 2nd half.

Springboks will win the WC purely because they are blooding a young ten now before it’s too late.

@sparky said in France vs Springboks:

France have gone backwards from this time last year.

It was silly of them to agree to play SA without playing another test beforehand, and they did look a tad disjointed. Having said that SA are just on another level atm.

The boks are well coached snd all of them know the hameplan.

@Canes4life said in France vs Springboks:

Springboks will win the WC purely because they are blooding a young ten now before it’s too late.

WC is years away. England will be the favorites for the next WC by the end of next year

The French substitutes were below par. With 15 men on the field, SA should have won by +25 pr even more.

An impressive 2nd half by the Boks. France didn't know how to capitalise on a numerical advantage.

@Victor-Meldrew said in France vs Springboks:

Does Gardner breath between lecturing the players?

It’s a thing with the two “top” Aussie refs, - him and Berry coach too much throughout the game. Berry doesn’t lecture like Gardner the school teacher, but he’s telling players far more than he should.

@antipodean said in France vs Springboks:

But a tucked arm isn't a red card. WR clarified this with the Beirne Decision.

You obviously didn't read the fine print when a player is wearing green.

@Bovidae said in France vs Springboks:

wearing green

Good of the Frogs to try and help with getting the Boks back out of their white jerseys into green ones. (Think it was) Reinach looked like Shrek when he came off.

@Bovidae knew we shouldn’t have worn white

Boks can just find a way, can't they? It is impressive. Against us, they pulled out their power scrum, against France, they just went to their driving maul. Prod and probe until an opposition's weakness is exposed. Respect.

Rassie and his staff are playing chess and everyone else is playing checkers.

@Young-Hamiltons said in France vs Springboks:

The boks are well coached snd all of them know the hameplan.

It's hametime!

Last night test is up there with the Wellington one.

AE switching between forwards and backs is another Rassie master stroke . The Bulls fatties also were outstanding in the second half.

SFM again MOTM performance. He make things happen even from 15 and the main reason for the Springboks improvement since winning the WC.

Hard to get to sleep last night after this test.

@OomPB said in France vs Springboks:

Last night test is up there with the Wellington one.

AE switching between forwards and backs is another Rassie master stroke . The Bulls fatties also were outstanding in the second half.

SFM again MOTM performance. He make things happen even from 15 and the main reason for the Springboks improvement since winning the WC.

Hard to get to sleep last night after this test.

Based off an Eddie Jones idea supposedly.

Depending on how long Ardie continues to play I think NZ need to get him or Sititi to cover 12 ( if its the latter pairing with Leicester Fainga’anuku then Tony Johnson will have kittens in the commentary box )

@MN5 said in France vs Springboks:

@OomPB said in France vs Springboks:

Last night test is up there with the Wellington one.

AE switching between forwards and backs is another Rassie master stroke . The Bulls fatties also were outstanding in the second half.

SFM again MOTM performance. He make things happen even from 15 and the main reason for the Springboks improvement since winning the WC.

Hard to get to sleep last night after this test.

Based off an Eddie Jones idea supposedly.

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Depending on how long Ardie continues to play I think NZ need to get him or Sititi to cover 12 ( if its the latter pairing with Leicester Fainga’anuku then Tony Johnson will have kittens in the commentary box )

or LF into the loosies...