Match thread

Nepia

Yes. I really didn't want a England win as it would be a win for two teams I dislike.

Basketball rugby, I'm surprised Stephen Jones hasn't dropped dead so he can roll over in his grave at that scoreline.

W32

Commentator barely keeping the tears back

sparky

48-46.

94 points. Crazy stuff.

Jet

A game of that drama did not deserve that jersey clash.

Not sure I ever could do a re-watch. It was tedious enough on the eyes.

Jailbreak7

Well at least we didn't have to suffer Ireland winning the 6N

nostrildamus

@sparky said in 2026 6N - France v England:

48-46.

94 points. Crazy stuff.

<NH ragebaiting>
Clearly powderpuff rugby where defence is optional with a score like that.
</NH ragebaiting>

Jet

France are a basket case.

Dupont's reputation is doing some heavy lifting for his game management skills.

You cant be conceding 46 points at home.

MN5

@Jailbreak7 said in 2026 6N - France v England:

Well at least we didn't have to suffer Ireland winning the 6N

Yeah but a team featuring Dupont won and he's a fuckhead.

It's not exactly great either way.

Jet

Need to get Tangitau into the Allblacks sharpish.

Speed on the wing makes some difference. It stretches the field laterally. The defence cant cheat.

It was too easy for teams to deal with Reece, later day Rieko, Telea and even Clarke to an extent. They knew they wouldnt be gassed.

MN5

@Jet said in 2026 6N - France v England:

Need to get Tangitau into the Allblacks sharpish.

Speed on the wing makes some difference. It stretches the field laterally. The defence cant cheat.

It was too easy for teams to deal with Reece, later day Rieko, Telea and even Clarke to an extent. They knew they wouldnt be gassed.

Reiko has pace and some power, Telea is slippery as an eel and Clarke has power and deceptive pace.

Agree on all counts with Reece though.

game_film

That high tackle was weird. Dude tackled the supporting player without the ball. Itoje was fine.

Jailbreak7

Chessum, Earl and Hayes were immense for England tonight.
They will be rueing the Genge YC

game_film

Shaun Edwards has passed his expiry date.

Jet

@MN5 said in 2026 6N - France v England:

@Jet said in 2026 6N - France v England:

Need to get Tangitau into the Allblacks sharpish.

Speed on the wing makes some difference. It stretches the field laterally. The defence cant cheat.

It was too easy for teams to deal with Reece, later day Rieko, Telea and even Clarke to an extent. They knew they wouldnt be gassed.

Reiko has pace and some power, Telea is slippery as an eel and Clarke has power and deceptive pace.

Agree on all counts with Reece though.

While all your points are valid, the point im making is the defending winger cant bite in as easily with Tangitau loitering with intent out there. You can give a Telea or a Reece a few yards of a head start.

It should free up a yard of space for the centres and presumably we could upskill him into a kick chase weapon too.

We need top end gas in the Allblacks.

Jailbreak7

@Jet I agree. We need to keep evolving, keep rugby, OUR rugby fresh. Reece and co have had their day.

MN5

@Jet said in 2026 6N - France v England:

@MN5 said in 2026 6N - France v England:

@Jet said in 2026 6N - France v England:

Need to get Tangitau into the Allblacks sharpish.

Speed on the wing makes some difference. It stretches the field laterally. The defence cant cheat.

It was too easy for teams to deal with Reece, later day Rieko, Telea and even Clarke to an extent. They knew they wouldnt be gassed.

Reiko has pace and some power, Telea is slippery as an eel and Clarke has power and deceptive pace.

Agree on all counts with Reece though.

While all your points are valid, the point im making is the defending winger cant bite in as easily with Tangitau loitering with intent out there. You can give a Telea or a Reece a few yards of a head start.

It should free up a yard of space for the centres and presumably we could upskill him into a kick chase weapon too.

We need top end gas in the Allblacks.

WIthout looking at any stats I think it is Tangitaus acceleration that sets him apart from the others. Ioane and Clarke certainly don't lack top end speed.

......and yes, I hope he gets selected to debut this year.

Jet

@MN5 said in 2026 6N - France v England:

@Jet said in 2026 6N - France v England:

@MN5 said in 2026 6N - France v England:

@Jet said in 2026 6N - France v England:

Need to get Tangitau into the Allblacks sharpish.

Speed on the wing makes some difference. It stretches the field laterally. The defence cant cheat.

It was too easy for teams to deal with Reece, later day Rieko, Telea and even Clarke to an extent. They knew they wouldnt be gassed.

Reiko has pace and some power, Telea is slippery as an eel and Clarke has power and deceptive pace.

Agree on all counts with Reece though.

While all your points are valid, the point im making is the defending winger cant bite in as easily with Tangitau loitering with intent out there. You can give a Telea or a Reece a few yards of a head start.

It should free up a yard of space for the centres and presumably we could upskill him into a kick chase weapon too.

We need top end gas in the Allblacks.

WIthout looking at any stats I think it is Tangitaus acceleration that sets him apart from the others. Ioane and Clarke certainly don't lack top end speed.

......and yes, I hope he gets selected to debut this year.

Clarke is a great winger, in his own way, but we lack a winger who when put in space...is gone.
From 60m out etc.

I have many memories of Clarke in space, falling over when trying to change direction or approaching contact.

Dont want him dropped or anything but we cant have tugboats from 9-15....which is what I felt we had for the last few years, bar Jordan.

It's another reason Roigard not playing in the RWC final was one of Fozzies biggest mistakes.

He had skinned about 6 Springboks from a standing start from 55m a few weeks before.

He was another threat they would have had to worry about.

Our team is/was choc full of backs who didnt cause the opposition any problems.

Jet

We need a metronomic goal kicker too.

Handre Pollard and Ramos put our lads to shame.

MiketheSnow

Fuck off with your SH chat

MiketheSnow

Fantastic match

Ramos is nails, but England blew that

Can someone please explain why teams are more than happy to go 15 phases grinding out territory when they’re 5m or less from the line but when it comes to going through the phases on halfway with 90 seconds to go when you’re in the lead away from home and the opposition have a player in the bin your scrum half decides to box kick the ball away, badly I may add

If that’s the player’s decision he’s deselected

If it’s the coach’s game plan, pick up your P45

Dumb, dumb rugby

Jet

@MiketheSnow said in 2026 6N - France v England:

Fantastic match

Ramos is nails, but England blew that

Can someone please explain why teams are more than happy to go 15 phases grinding out territory when they’re 5m or less from the line but when it comes to going through the phases on halfway with 90 seconds to go when you’re in the lead away from home and the opposition have a player in the bin your scrum half decides to box kick the ball away, badly I may add

If that’s the player’s decision he’s deselected

If it’s the coach’s game plan, pick up your P45

Dumb, dumb rugby

Getting held up over the line should be frowned upon too.

Teams need to stop getting white line fever.

KiwiMurph

@Jet said in 2026 6N - France v England:

@MiketheSnow said in 2026 6N - France v England:

Fantastic match

Ramos is nails, but England blew that

Can someone please explain why teams are more than happy to go 15 phases grinding out territory when they’re 5m or less from the line but when it comes to going through the phases on halfway with 90 seconds to go when you’re in the lead away from home and the opposition have a player in the bin your scrum half decides to box kick the ball away, badly I may add

If that’s the player’s decision he’s deselected

If it’s the coach’s game plan, pick up your P45

Dumb, dumb rugby

Getting held up over the line should be frowned upon too.

Teams need to stop getting white line fever.

Agreed. It's poor that teams havent adapted well to the rule that's been in place for a number of years now.

It's high risk to attack so close to the ruck with so many bodies around - just asking to be held up - you need to attack a channel wider where there is more space.

game_film

If you’re not analysing this match and tournament in terms of how it affects the SH…. Why are you even on the forum?

MiketheSnow

@game_film said in 2026 6N - France v England:

If you’re not analysing this match and tournament in terms of how it affects the SH…. Why are you even on the forum?

That’s for after

Appreciate the match first

game_film

@MiketheSnow I’m all for both; before, during and after

antipodean

England's ruck speed for their last try was rapid. I thought they'd won it with that effort.

sparky

Henry Pollock cupping his ear and shushing the crowd came back to bite him, his side and his nation in the arse.

I hope the young lad learns a bit more humility now and is told to respect the opposition and the traditions of the game a bit more.

sparky

OMG, I'm agreeing with the fucking walrus.

MN5

@sparky said in 2026 6N - France v England:

OMG, I'm agreeing with the fucking walrus.

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He must have gone for a piss, left his phone unattended ( he is at that age ) and someone must have jumped on his Twitter and posted from his account.

There is NO other explanation.

game_film

@sparky As a wise man once told me, If you want to dance, you gotta pay the piper.

Victor Meldrew

@MiketheSnow said in 2026 6N - France v England:

Can someone please explain why teams are more than happy to go 15 phases grinding out territory when they’re 5m or less from the line but when it comes to going through the phases on halfway with 90 seconds to go when you’re in the lead away from home and the opposition have a player in the bin your scrum half decides to box kick the ball away, badly I may add

I said that to Mrs Meldrew at the time- "England have probably blown the game with that kick" Dumber than the Genge YC.

Catogrande

Great game notwithstanding the clashing of the jerseys. England with the shackles off are a completely different side to the dull, formulaic side that have stunk up this 6N. The performance and the closeness of the result will likely save Borthwick's job but in reality it is an indictment of his methodology previous to this game and should result in his P45.

But it won't.

I just hope that there are enough sufficiently loud voices to drown out his statistically driven drivel going forward.

Interestingly, England with only the one win out of five were second behind France in the number of tries scored.

If we'd managed to squeak that win by let's say JvP not kicking the ball away with 90 seconds to go when he had a pod of forwards to truck it up we would then have had a great quiz question for the future - Who is the only player in the 6N to score four tries and end up on the losing side?