Match thread

@Mr-Fish said in Chiefs v Blues:

@brodean said in Chiefs v Blues:

Interesting to see Tyrone Thompson as the preferred starter to All Black Brodie McAlister. Looking forward to the hooker duels.

Yeah bit weird, almost like the Chiefs aren't putting out their top team?

Though it does perhaps hint to Thompson being retained for next year. Now would've been the perfect opportunity to give Taine Kolose a run off the bench.

But maybe the Chiefs were burnt from having to start Thompson in the final a couple of years ago with very little minutes under his belt and bring in Mils Sanerevi on the bench.

Would have thought McAlister as the back up hooker would need more minutes after only two starts this year and a handful of games off the bench?

Only just noticed Segner as captain. Good transition step to his All Black captaincy

Mr Fish

@brodean said in Chiefs v Blues:

@Mr-Fish said in Chiefs v Blues:

@brodean said in Chiefs v Blues:

Interesting to see Tyrone Thompson as the preferred starter to All Black Brodie McAlister. Looking forward to the hooker duels.

Yeah bit weird, almost like the Chiefs aren't putting out their top team?

Though it does perhaps hint to Thompson being retained for next year. Now would've been the perfect opportunity to give Taine Kolose a run off the bench.

But maybe the Chiefs were burnt from having to start Thompson in the final a couple of years ago with very little minutes under his belt and bring in Mils Sanerevi on the bench.

Would have thought McAlister as the back up hooker would need more minutes after only two starts this year and a handful of games off the bench?

Yeah I can't entirely wrap my head around it either. As I say, would've probably had Taine Kolose involved in some shape or form. He and Aisake Vakasiuola will be the sole members of the original squad who haven't played any minutes this year (other than the injured Jayden Sa) but I suppose hooker and lock are positions where the Chiefs have more than enough players to select from.

Regardless, the Chiefs should go into the finals with three fit hookers with sufficient minutes under their belt...

Also Wallace Sititi's first time captaining the Chiefs.

Bovidae

It could be that Gibbes wants the more experienced hooker with the less experienced props. I hope Cook-Savage gets some meaningful minutes on the field, whether at 10 or 15.

And the best scrummaging hooker.

Interesting game this. The Chiefs are a much better side, but if the Blues maintain discipline and defence I could see them getting up, as the Chiefs once in their own 22 will struggle to exit. Good test for the young Blues pack.

ARHS

@reprobate said in Chiefs v Blues:

Interesting game this. The Chiefs are a much better side, but if the Blues maintain discipline and defence I could see them getting up, as the Chiefs once in their own 22 will struggle to exit. Good test for the young Blues pack.

Touche that. My biggest issue with Ratima and Jacomb is the errorprone endeavours to exit. Seems a bit too complicated at times. Hopefully the coaches will modify the approach here with their halves more assertive

@ARHS said in Chiefs v Blues:

@reprobate said in Chiefs v Blues:

Interesting game this. The Chiefs are a much better side, but if the Blues maintain discipline and defence I could see them getting up, as the Chiefs once in their own 22 will struggle to exit. Good test for the young Blues pack.

Touche that. My biggest issue with Ratima and Jacomb is the errorprone endeavours to exit. Seems a bit too complicated at times. Hopefully the coaches will modify the approach here with their halves more assertive

They are just poor kickers - unfortunately much like many other halves in Super Rugby.

@brodean said in Chiefs v Blues:

@ARHS said in Chiefs v Blues:

@reprobate said in Chiefs v Blues:

Interesting game this. The Chiefs are a much better side, but if the Blues maintain discipline and defence I could see them getting up, as the Chiefs once in their own 22 will struggle to exit. Good test for the young Blues pack.

Touche that. My biggest issue with Ratima and Jacomb is the errorprone endeavours to exit. Seems a bit too complicated at times. Hopefully the coaches will modify the approach here with their halves more assertive

They are just poor kickers - unfortunately much like many other halves in Super Rugby.

Jacomb doesn't have a very long boot, but I think he also errs on the side of being way too conservative with his exits - finds touch but barely clears the 22 - possibly not confident of his accuracy? When you get the chance, you really need to get out of there, otherwise the sustained pressure will lead to both points and cards.
Combine him with Ratima, whose kicking is his weak point, and LCF who doesn't have a huge boot, and a newbie in Paul and it's easy to see them getting stuck if the Blues win their lineouts and don't give away relieving penalties.

Bovidae

Jacomb gets a lot of height in his kicks at the expense of distance.

KiwiMurph

My issue with Ratima is he seems robotic/overcoached in the way he plays. He doesnt seem to have a feel for how to infuence himself on a game and just plays the same way all the time.

Vern said at a pinch all the guys with niggles could have played.

Bovidae

@Mr-Fish said in Chiefs v Blues:

Yeah I can't entirely wrap my head around it either. As I say, would've probably had Taine Kolose involved in some shape or form. He and Aisake Vakasiuola will be the sole members of the original squad who haven't played any minutes this year

Gibbes is quoted today in saying that Kolose is injured and Vakasiuola "was still on a learning curve at this level".

Quite fascinated to see how we go with Segner as captain. As good as he has been playing he just doesn't have the tackle workrate of Papali'i. (Not many players do tbf)

Papali'i is the key to the Blues defence. He is close to the top of the those stats and rucks year in year out across Super Rugby.

Players waiting to pilfer all the time usually aren't making the same amount of tackles.

We've won 40% of games this year when Segner is playing openside and 75% when Papali'i has been playing openside.

It's a positive that Barnes is being partnered with Segner. Barnes is close to Papali'i in tackle work rate and 2nd of the loose forwards in this facet. Barnes also has the highest amount of dominant tackles for the Blues.

Looking forward to seeing how this trio with Wrampling go again together. This combo worked well defensively against the Drua.

Bones

Geez that was a bit shit Sullivan

KiwiMurph

Good crowd in Hamilton

Bones

Boom boom Barnes! Go you good thing

KiwiMurph

Nice work Barnes

Bones

Interesting to see Sullivan kicking. Guess he'll be joining Barnes...

KiwiMurph

Clarke does all the hard work and then spills it

Barnes is impressive

Bones

That was an atrocious scrum. Luckily for the blues... Jacomb

Yeetyaah

Guess I shouldn't have expected much from this game but it's still irritating to o watch

Bones

That's a better kick Zarn

That’s a poor throw from Mullan he can’t throw deep

KiwiMurph

Mullan is shit

Bones

Pretty sure Finau can't tackle Sullivan there...

Bones

Loving Nock with the proper Maori halfback look

@brodean said in Chiefs v Blues:

Quite fascinated to see how we go with Segner as captain. As good as he has been playing he just doesn't have the tackle workrate of Papali'i. (Not many players do tbf)

Papali'i is the key to the Blues defence. He is close to the top of the those stats and rucks year in year out across Super Rugby.

Players waiting to pilfer all the time usually aren't making the same amount of tackles.

We've won 40% of games this year when Segner is playing openside and 75% when Papali'i has been playing openside.

It's a positive that Barnes is being partnered with Segner. Barnes is close to Papali'i in tackle work rate and 2nd of the loose forwards in this facet. Barnes also has the highest amount of dominant tackles for the Blues.

Looking forward to seeing how this trio with Wrampling go again together. This combo worked well defensively against the Drua.

Stats can say anything. The only team the Blues have lost to this season with BB starting is the Canes.

I rest my case.

Yeetyaah

Exit you fucking speds

Bones

That was a dodgy as turnover by Ahki

That should have been a penalty on the Segner turnover Finau was holding on for dear life

Mr Fish

You forget how hodge podge this Chiefs backline is until they pass the ball through the hands. No leaders at all in there.

KiwiMurph

Blues dont have enough clinical edge this year

Should have way more points than 7 in this game

@Mr-Fish said in Chiefs v Blues:

You forget how hodge podge this Chiefs backline is until they pass the ball through the hands. No leaders at all in there.

Could be headed into the playoffs on the back of two losses. Not great for momentum

@KiwiMurph said in Chiefs v Blues:

Blues dont have enough clinical edge this year

Should have way more points than 7 in this game

Tonight's a cripple fight.

KiwiMurph

@Jnr said in Chiefs v Blues:

@Mr-Fish said in Chiefs v Blues:

You forget how hodge podge this Chiefs backline is until they pass the ball through the hands. No leaders at all in there.

Could be headed into the playoffs on the back of two losses. Not great for momentum

You are down 7 points. Settle down.

SouthernMann

Great kick Jacomb. Like that from him

Bones

Can't help but think Jacomb should have been a second five.