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@reprobate said in Chiefs v Blues:
Interesting game this. The Chiefs are a much better side, but if the Blues maintain discipline and defence I could see them getting up, as the Chiefs once in their own 22 will struggle to exit. Good test for the young Blues pack.
Touche that. My biggest issue with Ratima and Jacomb is the errorprone endeavours to exit. Seems a bit too complicated at times. Hopefully the coaches will modify the approach here with their halves more assertive
@ARHS said in Chiefs v Blues:
@reprobate said in Chiefs v Blues:
Interesting game this. The Chiefs are a much better side, but if the Blues maintain discipline and defence I could see them getting up, as the Chiefs once in their own 22 will struggle to exit. Good test for the young Blues pack.
Touche that. My biggest issue with Ratima and Jacomb is the errorprone endeavours to exit. Seems a bit too complicated at times. Hopefully the coaches will modify the approach here with their halves more assertive
They are just poor kickers - unfortunately much like many other halves in Super Rugby.
@brodean said in Chiefs v Blues:
@ARHS said in Chiefs v Blues:
@reprobate said in Chiefs v Blues:
Interesting game this. The Chiefs are a much better side, but if the Blues maintain discipline and defence I could see them getting up, as the Chiefs once in their own 22 will struggle to exit. Good test for the young Blues pack.
Touche that. My biggest issue with Ratima and Jacomb is the errorprone endeavours to exit. Seems a bit too complicated at times. Hopefully the coaches will modify the approach here with their halves more assertive
They are just poor kickers - unfortunately much like many other halves in Super Rugby.
Jacomb doesn't have a very long boot, but I think he also errs on the side of being way too conservative with his exits - finds touch but barely clears the 22 - possibly not confident of his accuracy? When you get the chance, you really need to get out of there, otherwise the sustained pressure will lead to both points and cards.
Combine him with Ratima, whose kicking is his weak point, and LCF who doesn't have a huge boot, and a newbie in Paul and it's easy to see them getting stuck if the Blues win their lineouts and don't give away relieving penalties.
My issue with Ratima is he seems robotic/overcoached in the way he plays. He doesnt seem to have a feel for how to infuence himself on a game and just plays the same way all the time.
@Mr-Fish said in Chiefs v Blues:
Yeah I can't entirely wrap my head around it either. As I say, would've probably had Taine Kolose involved in some shape or form. He and Aisake Vakasiuola will be the sole members of the original squad who haven't played any minutes this year
Gibbes is quoted today in saying that Kolose is injured and Vakasiuola "was still on a learning curve at this level".
Quite fascinated to see how we go with Segner as captain. As good as he has been playing he just doesn't have the tackle workrate of Papali'i. (Not many players do tbf)
Papali'i is the key to the Blues defence. He is close to the top of the those stats and rucks year in year out across Super Rugby.
Players waiting to pilfer all the time usually aren't making the same amount of tackles.
We've won 40% of games this year when Segner is playing openside and 75% when Papali'i has been playing openside.
It's a positive that Barnes is being partnered with Segner. Barnes is close to Papali'i in tackle work rate and 2nd of the loose forwards in this facet. Barnes also has the highest amount of dominant tackles for the Blues.
Looking forward to seeing how this trio with Wrampling go again together. This combo worked well defensively against the Drua.
@brodean said in Chiefs v Blues:
Quite fascinated to see how we go with Segner as captain. As good as he has been playing he just doesn't have the tackle workrate of Papali'i. (Not many players do tbf)
Papali'i is the key to the Blues defence. He is close to the top of the those stats and rucks year in year out across Super Rugby.
Players waiting to pilfer all the time usually aren't making the same amount of tackles.
We've won 40% of games this year when Segner is playing openside and 75% when Papali'i has been playing openside.
It's a positive that Barnes is being partnered with Segner. Barnes is close to Papali'i in tackle work rate and 2nd of the loose forwards in this facet. Barnes also has the highest amount of dominant tackles for the Blues.
Looking forward to seeing how this trio with Wrampling go again together. This combo worked well defensively against the Drua.
Stats can say anything. The only team the Blues have lost to this season with BB starting is the Canes.
I rest my case.
You forget how hodge podge this Chiefs backline is until they pass the ball through the hands. No leaders at all in there.
Blues dont have enough clinical edge this year
Should have way more points than 7 in this game
@Mr-Fish said in Chiefs v Blues:
You forget how hodge podge this Chiefs backline is until they pass the ball through the hands. No leaders at all in there.
Could be headed into the playoffs on the back of two losses. Not great for momentum
@KiwiMurph said in Chiefs v Blues:
Blues dont have enough clinical edge this year
Should have way more points than 7 in this game
Tonight's a cripple fight.
@Jnr said in Chiefs v Blues:
@Mr-Fish said in Chiefs v Blues:
You forget how hodge podge this Chiefs backline is until they pass the ball through the hands. No leaders at all in there.
Could be headed into the playoffs on the back of two losses. Not great for momentum
You are down 7 points. Settle down.
