England v All Blacks

@sparky said in England Vs All Blacks:

@frugby said in England Vs All Blacks:

This cringe bullshit about the grand slam ending, when it wasn’t even a grand slam.

I hope we never, ever bill a tour of the Northern Hemisphere again as a "Grand Slam" tour. Utter hubris.

You call it a Grand Slam once it's earned

Greatest Rivalry tour ok? 🤣

@Bones said in England Vs All Blacks:

@stodders said in England Vs All Blacks:

@Bones said in England Vs All Blacks:

@BerniesCorner said in England Vs All Blacks:

@Bones said in England Vs All Blacks:

We've all forgotten about getting fucked over by the officials because we were so shit.

Yes the officiating was terrible.
We still deserved to lose

Agreed. We could have overcome. But you will never see a yellow card like that ever again in international rugby.

Did you see the Italy/SA game earlier. It made my eyes bleed

What yellow card are you referring to?

The red card

Victor Meldrew

@stodders said in England Vs All Blacks:

@Canes4life said in England Vs All Blacks:

If Beuaden was banged up early Surfing Jesus, why didn’t you hook him early? Fk me this guy doesn’t come across as the sharpest tool.

He was needed for experience 🤣

That would have made sense if you were developing new 10's. But this is a coach who looks out of his depth right now.

Catogrande

@BerniesCorner said in England Vs All Blacks:

Haven't seen a TV yet.
What was the yellow for.
Why did Roigard go off

Playing the ball while on the ground. Penalty - yes. YC - no. Pretty harsh and the UK comms said as much, so it must be so.

frugby

@BerniesCorner The problem facing Razor, is he has been forced into making some tough calls, and we are still losing.

There is so much that needs to be changed, it might genuinely be easier to rip it up and start again. Jamie Joseph could walk-in and drop 10 players - it is much tougher for the incumbent to do that.

sparky

@BerniesCorner said in England Vs All Blacks:

I just wish Razor would make the hard calls

Robertson's like that ineffective supply teacher trying to be one of the boys and not realising he's creating chaos. He lacks the authority and ruthlessness that successful All Blacks coaches in the past have had.

It's time he was hooked.

@Bones said in England Vs All Blacks:

@stodders said in England Vs All Blacks:

@Bones said in England Vs All Blacks:

@BerniesCorner said in England Vs All Blacks:

@Bones said in England Vs All Blacks:

We've all forgotten about getting fucked over by the officials because we were so shit.

Yes the officiating was terrible.
We still deserved to lose

Agreed. We could have overcome. But you will never see a yellow card like that ever again in international rugby.

Did you see the Italy/SA game earlier. It made my eyes bleed

What yellow card are you referring to?

Taylor YC was a crap call.

England capitalised on their numerical advantage. NZ didn’t later when Earl went to the bin. And didn’t really look like it either.

Canes4life

Fk me listening to Taylor Johnson is making my ears bleed.

frugby

@Canes4life She raises an interesting point around the lack of devastation

Canes4life

@frugby said in England Vs All Blacks:

@Canes4life She raises an interesting point around the lack of devastation

That’s because Razor knows our media is weak so doesn’t have to answer any hard questions.

Apart from the obvious issues. Our forwards are bloody soft and go through the motions.

A couple times Roigard was ready to get the ball out quickly, but our forward pod had no urgency to get around and run it. Pre-2019 our forwards were fucking charging to run the ball.

@hikastags said in England Vs All Blacks:

Apart from the obvious issues. Our forwards are bloody soft and go through the motions.

A couple times Roigard was ready to get the ball out quickly, but our forward pod had no urgency to get around and run it. Pre-2019 our forwards were fucking charging to run the ball.

Lakai was good today

sparky

It feels like someone wrote the headline before watching the match. The penalty count was 2:1 in New Zealand's favour......

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@hikastags said in England Vs All Blacks:

Apart from the obvious issues. Our forwards are bloody soft and go through the motions.

A couple times Roigard was ready to get the ball out quickly, but our forward pod had no urgency to get around and run it. Pre-2019 our forwards were fucking charging to run the ball.

There was no punch from the bench forwards today either

@sparky said in England Vs All Blacks:

It feels like someone wrote the headline before watching the match. The penalty count was 2:1 in New Zealand's favour......

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NZ media are complicit in the making of the current malaise

Canes4life

So will there be any changes next week now that we’ve lost this game?

How is NZ society these days? Is it hard nosed and pragmatic and merit focused?

BerniesCorner

The obvious hard calls are:
BB retires,
Taylor becomes captain,
Roigard vice captain,
Jordan goes to wing,
I'd put JB at 15
QT, LF mid field,
DMac 10 and kicks