I'm assuming this is the right place to ask the question -
Why are the Aussie women 7s so good but the 15s so underwhelming? I don't pay close attention to the women's game (but do watch bf test matches) so I was wondering if anyone could shed any light on it.
@nonpartizan said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
Why are the Aussie women 7s so good but the 15s so underwhelming
The programs are run entirely separately.
And as the 7's have had success (olympics) they get more money.
The programs are to be merged, expect a big effort to get competitive for RWC 29 (in Aus).
@nonpartizan said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
Why are the Aussie women 7s so good but the 15s so underwhelming? I don't pay close attention to the women's game (but do watch bf test matches) so I was wondering if anyone could shed any light on it.
Not something I follow either but I know the Aussie womens sevens program recruited from a variety of sports (athletics, hockey etc). Basically taking athletes and teaching them how to play the short version of the game
That might help explain why the 7s fortunes are independent of the XVs health?
@antipodean said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
How much of this actually true and how much is just whinging?
A quick wiki of Lemoto and he's played for Aussie at age group rugby, so he's hardly been overlooked.
Also, a whole team of league players enter a comp and do well and it's somehow Oz rugby's fault that they haven't been on rugby's radar?
@Duluth said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
Aussie womens sevens program recruited from a variety of sports
from touch rugby
7 days later
Anyone been reading anything on the Rebels case against RA? To me someone who has not much legal clues it looks as though the Rebels case is falling apart real fast.
Seems the Rebels saying if they had known that RA wouldn't of bailed them out they would of gone into Liquidation in June 2023 instead of December. As they owe about $30 mill, I not sure that is a great argument, as RA still paid all the wages of players for the years. Also seems they as part of that also paid the Rebels the money for the players wages tax bill, and Rebels board forgot to forward that or lat couple of years to Aussie tax department?
following it a little bit
judge is really pissed at both parties, which is rather amusing
the key to it is what you correctly commented on
the tax money
apparently the rebels directors are still personally liable to the tax department for that money
it's like a last desperate attempt for the directors to save themselves
RA is ok with the status quo; not having the rebels as a constant drain on their finances
which the rebels seem to have assumed would go on forever
8 days later
Following on from https://forum.silverfern.rugby/post/1141619
Mike Catt takes the blame for the Tahs woeful couple of seasons. Inveterate clown Christy Doran calls it a failed overseas coaching experiment.
Yet several respected rugby figures have long questioned whether foreigners are suited to coaching Australian teams, given the different environment they face when arriving on these shores. Catt is the latest offshore recruit to leave via the back door.
This helps demonstrate you're damned if you do and damned if you don't help Australian rugby.
@Bovidae said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
Comments from Cotter in the article.
"I pride myself on always looking to improve myself as a coach and I certainly feel this can make me a better coach. 'We train to win' is always my position."
2026 Blues rugby season ... mutter mutter...
@antipodean said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
Following on from https://forum.silverfern.rugby/post/1141619
Mike Catt takes the blame for the Tahs woeful couple of seasons. Inveterate clown Christy Doran calls it a failed overseas coaching experiment.
Yet several respected rugby figures have long questioned whether foreigners are suited to coaching Australian teams, given the different environment they face when arriving on these shores. Catt is the latest offshore recruit to leave via the back door.
This helps demonstrate you're damned if you do and damned if you don't help Australian rugby.
is that different environment shit players and constant white anting from boys clubs?
Tahs would be better off with an attack coach who has experience in Super/Japan going forward.
@KiwiMurph said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
Tahs would be better off with an attack coach who has experience in Super/Japan going forward.
Halangahu? Not sure how both O'Halloran & Halangahu can stay at the Blues with Holland coming in
@KiwiMurph said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
Tahs would be better off with an attack coach who has experience in
Super/Japangoing forward.
Fixed.
@mariner4life said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
@antipodean said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
Following on from https://forum.silverfern.rugby/post/1141619
Mike Catt takes the blame for the Tahs woeful couple of seasons. Inveterate clown Christy Doran calls it a failed overseas coaching experiment.
Yet several respected rugby figures have long questioned whether foreigners are suited to coaching Australian teams, given the different environment they face when arriving on these shores. Catt is the latest offshore recruit to leave via the back door.
This helps demonstrate you're damned if you do and damned if you don't help Australian rugby.
is that different environment shit players and constant white anting from boys clubs?
You'd think Catt would have some experience of that being English.
18 days later
informative comments from simon cron about contracting SR players
first half of the chattering
Ekuasi
Epinisa
Lomax
roster management
agents
salary cap
national team top-ups
canes
@antipodean said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
Following on from https://forum.silverfern.rugby/post/1141619
Mike Catt takes the blame for the Tahs woeful couple of seasons. Inveterate clown Christy Doran calls it a failed overseas coaching experiment.
Yet several respected rugby figures have long questioned whether foreigners are suited to coaching Australian teams, given the different environment they face when arriving on these shores. Catt is the latest offshore recruit to leave via the back door.
This helps demonstrate you're damned if you do and damned if you don't help Australian rugby.
The fact that Dan McKellar has also fallen on his sword suggests it might not be Catt's 'foreign-ness' that was the issue...
McKellar did OK with the Brumbies so maybe it's NSW rugby that is the problem, not the coach.
@Bovidae said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
McKellar did OK with the Brumbies so maybe it's NSW rugby that is the problem, not the coach.
Perhaps the coach doesn't have that much impact in certain environments? The Brumbies are typically a high-performing team and his record was covid impacted - possibly making him better than he seemed. He also had Laurie Fisher as assistant.
8 days later
Sefo Kautai going to NSW.
RA to continue investing millions in League backs in attempt to resolve glaring deficiencies with their forwards:
Jarome Luai: Rugby Australia opens door for World Cup code switch | The Australian
you know what? if they continue doing dumb shit like that, perhaps it is just better off we let them die.
@Bovidae said in Aussie Pro Rugby:
Sefo Kautai going to NSW.
He would have been a good sign for the Blues.
SR (and all union dom pro rugby) is already dead as far as the NRL concerned
PVL should buy it with his loose-change, and finish it off
but the wallabies (and ABs) are never going to die
even after this new NRL deal, the Wobs and ABs are still going to be able to compete for the best league talent
not thinking jarome is one of the guys that should be a target tho
although the wobs do have issues in that area
7 days later
I've not been particularly impressed with what I've seen of Teddy Wilson to date. Good ball runner but seems to lack most of the core halfback skills? The Waratahs certainly looked considerably worse with him at 9, compared with Gordon.
Sounds like Ikitau also won't feature in the two matches against Japan. Even if he were fit, however, this is probably a good opportunity to build some depth in the midfield.
