Aussie Pro Rugby

@nonpartizan said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

Why are the Aussie women 7s so good but the 15s so underwhelming? I don't pay close attention to the women's game (but do watch bf test matches) so I was wondering if anyone could shed any light on it.

Not something I follow either but I know the Aussie womens sevens program recruited from a variety of sports (athletics, hockey etc). Basically taking athletes and teaching them how to play the short version of the game

That might help explain why the 7s fortunes are independent of the XVs health?

@Duluth said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

Aussie womens sevens program recruited from a variety of sports

from touch rugby

TX @duluth and @mohikamo

That makes a lot of sense.

Anyone been reading anything on the Rebels case against RA? To me someone who has not much legal clues it looks as though the Rebels case is falling apart real fast.
Seems the Rebels saying if they had known that RA wouldn't of bailed them out they would of gone into Liquidation in June 2023 instead of December. As they owe about $30 mill, I not sure that is a great argument, as RA still paid all the wages of players for the years. Also seems they as part of that also paid the Rebels the money for the players wages tax bill, and Rebels board forgot to forward that or lat couple of years to Aussie tax department?

@Dan54

following it a little bit
judge is really pissed at both parties, which is rather amusing

the key to it is what you correctly commented on
the tax money
apparently the rebels directors are still personally liable to the tax department for that money
it's like a last desperate attempt for the directors to save themselves

RA is ok with the status quo; not having the rebels as a constant drain on their finances
which the rebels seem to have assumed would go on forever

Following on from https://forum.silverfern.rugby/post/1141619

Mike Catt takes the blame for the Tahs woeful couple of seasons. Inveterate clown Christy Doran calls it a failed overseas coaching experiment.

Yet several respected rugby figures have long questioned whether foreigners are suited to coaching Australian teams, given the different environment they face when arriving on these shores. Catt is the latest offshore recruit to leave via the back door.

This helps demonstrate you're damned if you do and damned if you don't help Australian rugby.

@Bovidae said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

Comments from Cotter in the article.

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"I pride myself on always looking to improve myself as a coach and I certainly feel this can make me a better coach. 'We train to win' is always my position."

2026 Blues rugby season ... mutter mutter...

@antipodean said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

Following on from https://forum.silverfern.rugby/post/1141619

Mike Catt takes the blame for the Tahs woeful couple of seasons. Inveterate clown Christy Doran calls it a failed overseas coaching experiment.

Yet several respected rugby figures have long questioned whether foreigners are suited to coaching Australian teams, given the different environment they face when arriving on these shores. Catt is the latest offshore recruit to leave via the back door.

This helps demonstrate you're damned if you do and damned if you don't help Australian rugby.

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is that different environment shit players and constant white anting from boys clubs?

Tahs would be better off with an attack coach who has experience in Super/Japan going forward.

@KiwiMurph said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

Tahs would be better off with an attack coach who has experience in Super/Japan going forward.

Halangahu? Not sure how both O'Halloran & Halangahu can stay at the Blues with Holland coming in

@KiwiMurph said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

Tahs would be better off with an attack coach who has experience in Super/Japan going forward.

Fixed.

@mariner4life said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

@antipodean said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

Following on from https://forum.silverfern.rugby/post/1141619

Mike Catt takes the blame for the Tahs woeful couple of seasons. Inveterate clown Christy Doran calls it a failed overseas coaching experiment.

Yet several respected rugby figures have long questioned whether foreigners are suited to coaching Australian teams, given the different environment they face when arriving on these shores. Catt is the latest offshore recruit to leave via the back door.

This helps demonstrate you're damned if you do and damned if you don't help Australian rugby.

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is that different environment shit players and constant white anting from boys clubs?

You'd think Catt would have some experience of that being English.

informative comments from simon cron about contracting SR players

first half of the chattering

Ekuasi
Epinisa
Lomax
roster management
agents
salary cap
national team top-ups
canes

@antipodean said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

Following on from https://forum.silverfern.rugby/post/1141619

Mike Catt takes the blame for the Tahs woeful couple of seasons. Inveterate clown Christy Doran calls it a failed overseas coaching experiment.

Yet several respected rugby figures have long questioned whether foreigners are suited to coaching Australian teams, given the different environment they face when arriving on these shores. Catt is the latest offshore recruit to leave via the back door.

This helps demonstrate you're damned if you do and damned if you don't help Australian rugby.

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The fact that Dan McKellar has also fallen on his sword suggests it might not be Catt's 'foreign-ness' that was the issue...

McKellar did OK with the Brumbies so maybe it's NSW rugby that is the problem, not the coach.

@Bovidae said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

McKellar did OK with the Brumbies so maybe it's NSW rugby that is the problem, not the coach.

Perhaps the coach doesn't have that much impact in certain environments? The Brumbies are typically a high-performing team and his record was covid impacted - possibly making him better than he seemed. He also had Laurie Fisher as assistant.

Sefo Kautai going to NSW.

RA to continue investing millions in League backs in attempt to resolve glaring deficiencies with their forwards:
Jarome Luai: Rugby Australia opens door for World Cup code switch | The Australian

you know what? if they continue doing dumb shit like that, perhaps it is just better off we let them die.

@Bovidae said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

Sefo Kautai going to NSW.

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He would have been a good sign for the Blues.

@mariner4life

SR (and all union dom pro rugby) is already dead as far as the NRL concerned
PVL should buy it with his loose-change, and finish it off

but the wallabies (and ABs) are never going to die
even after this new NRL deal, the Wobs and ABs are still going to be able to compete for the best league talent

not thinking jarome is one of the guys that should be a target tho
although the wobs do have issues in that area

I don't think they're targeting him, if his agent reaches out for a one year contract, they'd probably make him an offer (likely below market)

he's off to the Eels.

I've not been particularly impressed with what I've seen of Teddy Wilson to date. Good ball runner but seems to lack most of the core halfback skills? The Waratahs certainly looked considerably worse with him at 9, compared with Gordon.

Sounds like Ikitau also won't feature in the two matches against Japan. Even if he were fit, however, this is probably a good opportunity to build some depth in the midfield.

Doesn't seem like many changes, one uncapped player? So the squad directed by Kiss this year for Schmidt to finihs up or that's just the best they have?

Looks like the best available with players such as Ikitau, Skelton, and Lynagh unavailable due to injury.

Noticeably Lukhan Salakaia-Loto gets called back up after playing some club rugby.