42 for 6 but England reviewing
Three LBWs so far, very reminiscent of the visiting team's scorecard in the days when there were not mutual umpires, particularly on the sub continent. One slight difference, all these three today have been utterly plumb.
I’ve only been watching since the 3rd wicket.
It’s not a minefield. The ball is swinging around a little and Ireland have bowled a good line.
@Duluth said in Other Cricket:
I’ve only been watching since the 3rd wicket.
It’s not a minefield. The ball is swinging around a little and Ireland have bowled a good line.
Using the slope as well. They're saying Murtagh has a few wickets here playing for Middlesex so he knows how to put it in the right areas.
England do not get the chance to declare their first innings closed as they lose their last wicket to be all out for just 85 runs shortly before lunch after winning the toss and batting!
Ireland goin well in comparison 45/1
England prob still win though due to hitting more boundaries
England are still struggling to find top order batsmen who can cope with the new ball - Roy may blast some runs in the Ashes but generally going for your shots on the first morning will get the slips excited. Bairstow's innings was just weird, being warned for batting so far out of his crease that he was "running on the pitch" and then bowled through the gate with a big drive.
They are all still drunk from last weekend. And rightly so
Aus no better with the bat, their internal match is a wicketfest
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
They are all still drunk from last weekend. And rightly so
Aus no better with the bat, their internal match is a wicketfest
Only 4 of the players actually played in that final ...
Going to be a great day tomorrow - Ireland with a real chance of the upset but it will be a tricky chase with a lot of pressure.
That pom test team looks weak. Reminds me of us when we were trying all sorts of first class players.
Aus favourites on personnel and test experience
Interesting stats
Root as non-captain 53 tests, batting average 52.80
Root as captain 28 tests, batting average 42.48
Kane as non-captain 48 tests, batting average 49.23
Kane as captain 24 tests, batting average 63.69
Kohli's numbers are 41.13 and then 62.70 as captain
Smith is 51.83 and then 70.36 as captain
My hunch is Ireland will find 200 (and the pressure) too much.
Their own first innings batting collapse may be costly, left their number 5 stranded on just 28 not out.
But here's hoping.
@Rapido said in Other Cricket:
My hunch is Ireland will find 200 (and the pressure) too much.
Their own first innings batting collapse may be costly, left their number 5 stranded on just 28 not out.But here's hoping.
I agree - I think 200 will be too far. But, as you say, here's hoping.
So, I just copied your post. Good for me. I will say if the pitch flattens out, and the openers can see off the hard ball, that 200 is very very gettable. So maybe I am optimistic... will take some disciplined batting for an hour, and then it'll be game on for Ireland.
Imagine winning your first test in less than 20 odd years of, admittedly war-interrupted, trying.
It took us:
20 years to win our first test.
30 years to win our first away test.
45 years to win our first test v England.
50 years to win our first test in England.
66 years to win our first test at Lords.
It also tookmus until after the 1973 series in England to get 5 day tests out of the MCC when playing them
@Donsteppa said in Other Cricket:
Ireland are collapsing faster than a Wallabies scrum.
Jaysus, out for 38. Didn't see that coming. Well done the poms, but gutted for the Irish; that was a golden opportunity. Chase 180 and it's all glory, but they just fell apart
Bit of rain produced a wicket that favoured the ball. Always going to be tough as it went on and Root had a go at the surface after the game
8 days later
@jegga said in Other Cricket:
( Richie Benaud voice ).........Welcome back here to the Support Womens Sport Basin Reserve.......
Ah yeah nah thanks.....
Shame, I loved watching this guy bowl. Always had that slightly unhinged look in his eyes and he was as good as anyone.
Modern day great
actually, fuck that, 439 @ 23 is all time. What a player, my favourite modern bowler.
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
Modern day great
actually, fuck that, 439 @ 23 is all time. What a player, my favourite modern bowler.
Yep that's Hadlee standard and remember Steyn played when anything under 30 is pretty outstanding.
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
Shame, I loved watching this guy bowl. Always had that slightly unhinged look in his eyes and he was as good as anyone.
Proof you don't have to be 6'+ to be quick.
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
Shame, I loved watching this guy bowl. Always had that slightly unhinged look in his eyes and he was as good as anyone.
Madman. Absolute quality, to ge tthose figures. Crazy cool dude too
@nzzp said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
Shame, I loved watching this guy bowl. Always had that slightly unhinged look in his eyes and he was as good as anyone.
Madman. Absolute quality, to ge tthose figures. Crazy cool dude too
Interesting he's given up the longest form, great ODI stats but it's as a test bowler he really shines.
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
Interesting he's given up the longest form, great ODI stats but it's as a test bowler he really shines.
Agreed.
But his body just can't deal with the volume required in tests anymore.
Even an ODI feels a stretch. Suspect he will gravitate to T20's.
Interesting fact given that injuries are now haunting him - he was one of the least injured bowlers early on in his career. It has really only been the last 3-4 years that father time has come to claim its dues.
Out of interest, I thought I'd do a comparison of Hadlee (left) and Steyn (right).
Shows just how much work Hadlee got through in his career - 7 matches less (86 vs 93), but bowled around 2,400 more deliveries than Steyn.
Bowling has a lot of similarities, but Hadlee was 3x the batsmen (literally).
Was a pleasure to watch Steyn, one of the few fast bowlers I went out of my way to watch. Quality for ages, and a dead set legend.
Hadlee (left) vs Steyn (right)
@nzzp said in Other Cricket:
Out of interest, I thought I'd do a comparison of Hadlee (left) and Steyn (right).
Shows just how much work Hadlee got through in his career - 7 matches less (86 vs 93), but bowled around 2,400 more deliveries than Steyn.
Bowling has a lot of similarities, but Hadlee was 3x the batsmen (literally).
Was a pleasure to watch Steyn, one of the few fast bowlers I went out of my way to watch. Quality for ages, and a dead set legend.
Hadlee (left) vs Steyn (right)
pains me to say it but Steyn may have been better. The argument can be made.....
In Hadlees favour is 36 michelles vs 26 which indicates he bowled more singular match changing spells. Batting is no comparison obviously but I still wouldn't call Sir RJ a true all rounder.
In Steyns favour is the era he played being much friendlier for batsman yet he still averaged only a smidgen under Paddles. Also a strike rate of 42 vs 50 speaks for itself too.
In Sir RJs favour is that his averages are probably not benefitting with games against Zimbabwe and Bangledesh.
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
pains me to say it but Steyn may have been better. The argument can be made.....
Almost impossible to compare players from different eras and make a case for one being better than the other imo.
Hadlee was one of those once-in-a-lifetime kind of cricketers. Certainly one of my favourite picks for an alltime XI.
But Steyn, on song - particularly when he would angle it at leg stump and swing it to hit top of off-stump - was probably more enjoyable to watch - at least for me.
@Higgins said in Other Cricket:
In Sir RJs favour is that his averages are probably not benefitting with games against Zimbabwe and Bangledesh.
and the bowling support.
Batsmen didn't have to score off him, just see him off - there was usually a competitor at the other end. Hadlee's bowling partners, on the other hand, weren't exactly scary (much though we loved them)
Some international coaching news:
Pakistan have sacked - or rather declined to renew - the coaching contract of Mickey Arthur and all his staff.
Arthur is said to be on the shortlist as a candidate to replace Bayliss at England after the Ashes series...
And Otis Gibson and all his staff got the sack in SA.
No immediate replacement identified but apparantly Criscket SA will now be appointing more of a Football-type " Manager".
Fun and games.