Black Caps v Pakistan

@Chris said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@1kiwi said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

Thank the lord Jamieson won't play in the remainder of the T20 series. He should never have been picked to play International T20 matches in the first place. He is a Test Match & ODI bowler.

Are you talking about the player who has figure of 3/8 off 4 overs in his previous game.
Sure he had a shitter at Eden Park every bowler did, with short boundaries that create 6 and 4s from miss hits, hard on all bowlers at that ground.
I am not writing off Jamieson in 20/20s he moves the ball both ways has height so generates awkward bounce and can hit a decent length

He is injury prone as it is I just don't believe we should risk playing him in this hit and giggle garbage. Save him for the longer formats.

@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@Chris said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@1kiwi said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

Thank the lord Jamieson won't play in the remainder of the T20 series. He should never have been picked to play International T20 matches in the first place. He is a Test Match & ODI bowler.

Are you talking about the player who has figure of 3/8 off 4 overs in his previous game.
Sure he had a shitter at Eden Park every bowler did, with short boundaries that create 6 and 4s from miss hits, hard on all bowlers at that ground.
I am not writing off Jamieson in 20/20s he moves the ball both ways has height so generates awkward bounce and can hit a decent length

I just want him to stay fit for the longest format.

Jamieson, O’Rourke and Henry ( can’t believe I’m saying this but his improvement has been immense ) at their best are as good as any pace trio in the game

Yep totally agree it is an exciting trio if they stay fit they could win us a lot of games,
They have everything as a combo
Pace, bounce move the ball both ways.
Fingers crossed they all get on the park together consistently.

@1kiwi said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@Chris said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@1kiwi said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

Thank the lord Jamieson won't play in the remainder of the T20 series. He should never have been picked to play International T20 matches in the first place. He is a Test Match & ODI bowler.

Are you talking about the player who has figure of 3/8 off 4 overs in his previous game.
Sure he had a shitter at Eden Park every bowler did, with short boundaries that create 6 and 4s from miss hits, hard on all bowlers at that ground.
I am not writing off Jamieson in 20/20s he moves the ball both ways has height so generates awkward bounce and can hit a decent length

He is injury prone as it is I just don't believe we should risk playing him in this hit and giggle garbage. Save him for the longer formats.

Nah don’t agree he learns a lot playing 20/20
good way to build up just 4 overs at a time,
Builds a strength base for that back.

@Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

220/6 off our 20. Weird innings, got totally bogged down through the 10-16 over mark. Not sure if that's good bowling, or Allen and Seifert playing well. Feels like we're either about 30 ahead of par or 30 behind.

Good win in the end, so I guess we were well ahead of par although I think some of that was scoreboard pressure.

Silly to give MOTM to Allen. It's a batsmen's game, multiple of our batsmen scored similar runs, the difference between the two sides is 4/20 from 4 overs. Those figures will win you most T20s and those early wickets ended Pakistan's chase before it started. Allen said in the interview he didn't deserve it.

That said, there are not many players as exciting as Allen to watch when he gets going like that.

Was this game stopped three overs in so the Pakistani Team could break a fast?
That's new!!

Jeepers is this series still going ?

@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

Jeepers is this series still going ?

What series?

Another T20 starting now

Pakistan: Salman Ali Agha (c), Mohammad Haris (wk), Hasan Nawaz, Omair Bin Yousuf, Usman Khan, Shadab Khan, Abdul Samad, Jahandad Khan, Haris Rauf, Sufyan Moqim, Mohammad Ali

New Zealand: Tim Seifert, Finn Allen, Mark Chapman, Daryl Mitchell, Jimmy Neesham, Mitch Hay (wk), Michael Bracewell (c), Ish Sodhi, Jacob Duffy, Ben Sears, Will O'Rourke

Ball doing heaps but we haven't been accurate enough to capitalise

@Duluth said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

Another T20 starting now

another piece of pie sir?

Sure, why not. I'm not enjoying it like the first one, but I'll gag it down like a <insert comparison here>

Sidefart hammers them, 97* off 38, chased 128 in 10 overs.

Pakistan have been shit.

@Canerbry said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

Pakistan have been shit.

except at Eden Park.

Not unexpectedly I can report it has been raining rather heavily in Napier for about the last half hour. Checks cricket schedule, ah yes Pakis v Black Caps scheduled for McLean Park on Saturday so that explains the rain.

@Higgins said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

Not unexpectedly I can report it has been raining rather heavily in Napier for about the last half hour. Checks cricket schedule, ah yes Pakis v Black Caps scheduled for McLean Park on Saturday so that explains the rain.

An ODI will be more fun to watch than T20.

Not sure the results will be any different though

@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@Higgins said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

Not unexpectedly I can report it has been raining rather heavily in Napier for about the last half hour. Checks cricket schedule, ah yes Pakis v Black Caps scheduled for McLean Park on Saturday so that explains the rain.

An ODI will be more fun to watch than T20.

Not sure the results will be any different though

Disappointing to have to swap out watching Tim Seifert and Finn Allen for Nick Kelly and Will Young though. The T20 openers have been a real highlights package.

@SouthernMann said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@Higgins said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

Not unexpectedly I can report it has been raining rather heavily in Napier for about the last half hour. Checks cricket schedule, ah yes Pakis v Black Caps scheduled for McLean Park on Saturday so that explains the rain.

An ODI will be more fun to watch than T20.

Not sure the results will be any different though

Disappointing to have to swap out watching Tim Seifert and Finn Allen for Nick Kelly and Will Young though. The T20 openers have been a real highlights package.

I had to google who that is.

Yeah the formats are getting more and more spread apart.

Some guys can play all three very well but fitting them all in can be the problem.

NZ will be batting first.

Of interest to me is two guys I've never heard of, Nick Kelly who I mentioned above and Muhammad Abbas.

Also Henry Nicholls has sneakily slotted in at three after some time in the wilderness.

I'm picking a couple of comfortable hidings ( despite what happened in Auckland ), I think this Pakistan team just want to go home.

Muhammad Abbas has had a little bit of 'next big thing' hype about him. He seems handy from the little bit of domestic T20 I've seen him play but probably a little too soon, although as you say, an ODI team against a pretty demoralised Pakistan team might be a good way to give him a little bit of international experience while the guys in front of him are off playing franchise cricket.

Young gone.

Excellent catch.

Time to see how Nicholls goes !

Going to be a tough day for the Pakistanis. No water or food all game. Send last day of Ramadan

We are a bowler short. That 11 looks like it will be asking way too much of Abbas's bowling.

Bit, I'm not too bothered. Good to get him a game. Just surprised at the 11.

@Rapido said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

We are a bowler short. That 11 looks like it will be asking way too much of Abbas's bowling.

Bit, I'm not too bothered. Good to get him a game. Just surprised at the 11.

Yeah I thought that too. Maybe the plan is to give Chapman and Mitchell a few overs?

Black Caps playing some seriously 1980s ODI cricket here ( copyright @voodoo )

Looking better now. 146-3. Chapman and Mitchell battling hard and a few big hits in the last over.

NZ 224-3.

Chapman got his ton, Mitchell his 50.

These two have steadied the ship like a mother fucker.

Mohammad Ali is bowling but hasn't provided any punch as yet.

Record NZ partnership against Pakistan for any wicket. Some of the ones they've gone past were the overall record by Fleming and Astle and Fleming and Thomson for the 5th wicket.

And it's over. Good platform for Abbas to come out to on debut.

New boy Abbas in for Mitchell, gone for 76.

Will need to have a swing pretty shortly. I thought Bracewell might have come in ahead of him ?

Chapman has belted his way to 114 at the other end ! very big score looking good, especially given the start they had.

Chapman on 126, his highest ODI score. Well done son. Looking powerful and assured out there.

Previous two tons were against minnows UAE and Scotland so good to get a proper team in there.

@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

New boy Abbas in for Mitchell, gone for 76.

Will need to have a swing pretty shortly. I thought Bracewell might have come in ahead of him ?

Chapman has belted his way to 114 at the other end ! very big score looking good, especially given the start they had.

Maybe Bracewell thought it was worth giving Abbas a bit more time to get into the game, good captaincy.

Lovely hitting from Abbas at the end, on 38 off 18.

50 on debut off 24. Fantastic stuff young fella, he looks a talent.

Was cool to see captain Bracewell send Abbas in ahead of him

Abbas is good to watch

@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

50 on debut off 24. Fantastic stuff young fella, he looks a talent.

He has some power and a good eye. Just as well as the rest of the lower order did SFA.

Fastest ever 50 on ODI debut

@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

Was cool to see captain Bracewell send Abbas in ahead of him

Abbas is good to watch

yep, nice swagger about him. Looks very exciting and confident. His innings was vital in getting over 300 given others failed.

Bugger that he holed out on 52 and didn't end up 58 not out but he still looked pretty pleased with his efforts.

His Dad looked a pretty useful bowler at FC level in pakistan ( thanks cricinfo, looked unlucky not to get a call up for Pakistan )

That's a phenomenal total given our rocky start. I'm always nervous after a score like that that we squandered good conditions early, but we'll find out soon.

I should go look at Chapman's split Vs Pakistan and everyone else, it feels like all his runs come against them.

@Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

That's a phenomenal total given our rocky start. I'm always nervous after a score like that that we squandered good conditions early, but we'll find out soon.

I should go look at Chapman's split Vs Pakistan and everyone else, it feels like all his runs come against them.

Average of 41 vs them vs 39 everyone else.

first big score against them, nothing over 50 prior to this.

@MN5

Difference of 14 (27 vs 41) in T20 though, that must be where I got the idea.

Handy start from Pakistan which they needed. 56 for none.