Black Caps v Pakistan

Rapido

We are a bowler short. That 11 looks like it will be asking way too much of Abbas's bowling.

Bit, I'm not too bothered. Good to get him a game. Just surprised at the 11.

Cyclops

@Rapido said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

We are a bowler short. That 11 looks like it will be asking way too much of Abbas's bowling.

Bit, I'm not too bothered. Good to get him a game. Just surprised at the 11.

Yeah I thought that too. Maybe the plan is to give Chapman and Mitchell a few overs?

MN5

Black Caps playing some seriously 1980s ODI cricket here ( copyright @voodoo )

MN5

Looking better now. 146-3. Chapman and Mitchell battling hard and a few big hits in the last over.

MN5

NZ 224-3.

Chapman got his ton, Mitchell his 50.

These two have steadied the ship like a mother fucker.

Mohammad Ali is bowling but hasn't provided any punch as yet.

Record NZ partnership against Pakistan for any wicket. Some of the ones they've gone past were the overall record by Fleming and Astle and Fleming and Thomson for the 5th wicket.

And it's over. Good platform for Abbas to come out to on debut.

MN5

New boy Abbas in for Mitchell, gone for 76.

Will need to have a swing pretty shortly. I thought Bracewell might have come in ahead of him ?

Chapman has belted his way to 114 at the other end ! very big score looking good, especially given the start they had.

MN5

Chapman on 126, his highest ODI score. Well done son. Looking powerful and assured out there.

Previous two tons were against minnows UAE and Scotland so good to get a proper team in there.

@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

New boy Abbas in for Mitchell, gone for 76.

Will need to have a swing pretty shortly. I thought Bracewell might have come in ahead of him ?

Chapman has belted his way to 114 at the other end ! very big score looking good, especially given the start they had.

Maybe Bracewell thought it was worth giving Abbas a bit more time to get into the game, good captaincy.

MN5

Lovely hitting from Abbas at the end, on 38 off 18.

MN5

50 on debut off 24. Fantastic stuff young fella, he looks a talent.

KiwiMurph

Was cool to see captain Bracewell send Abbas in ahead of him

Abbas is good to watch

Bovidae

@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

50 on debut off 24. Fantastic stuff young fella, he looks a talent.

He has some power and a good eye. Just as well as the rest of the lower order did SFA.

mikedogz

Fastest ever 50 on ODI debut

MN5

@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

Was cool to see captain Bracewell send Abbas in ahead of him

Abbas is good to watch

yep, nice swagger about him. Looks very exciting and confident. His innings was vital in getting over 300 given others failed.

Bugger that he holed out on 52 and didn't end up 58 not out but he still looked pretty pleased with his efforts.

His Dad looked a pretty useful bowler at FC level in pakistan ( thanks cricinfo, looked unlucky not to get a call up for Pakistan )

Cyclops

That's a phenomenal total given our rocky start. I'm always nervous after a score like that that we squandered good conditions early, but we'll find out soon.

I should go look at Chapman's split Vs Pakistan and everyone else, it feels like all his runs come against them.

MN5

@Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

That's a phenomenal total given our rocky start. I'm always nervous after a score like that that we squandered good conditions early, but we'll find out soon.

I should go look at Chapman's split Vs Pakistan and everyone else, it feels like all his runs come against them.

Average of 41 vs them vs 39 everyone else.

first big score against them, nothing over 50 prior to this.

Cyclops

@MN5

Difference of 14 (27 vs 41) in T20 though, that must be where I got the idea.

MN5

Handy start from Pakistan which they needed. 56 for none.

@Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@MN5

Difference of 14 (27 vs 41) in T20 though, that must be where I got the idea.

Yeah, he absolutely loves playing T20 against and at their home grounds too!

KiwiMurph

At this stage of his career Abbas looks like a player who can give you a small number of overs bowling in limited overs formats rather than a genuine allrounder

MN5

@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

At this stage of his career Abbas looks like a player who can give you a small number of overs bowling in limited overs formats rather than a genuine allrounder

So according to BC selectors a fully fledged all rounder then

Cyclops

Yeah I feel like we're in more trouble than it looks on the scorecard, since Abbas (or another part timer) has to bowl about a quarter of the remaining overs.

I don't know what the selectors are thinking - maybe he bowled more in the one day or plunket shield, but when I watched him play T20 his bowling was very much handy 6th option rather than core bowler.

MN5

@Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

Yeah I feel like we're in more trouble than it looks on the scorecard, since Abbas (or another part timer) has to bowl about a quarter of the remaining overs.

I don't know what the selectors are thinking - maybe he bowled more in the one day or plunket shield, but when I watched him play T20 his bowling was very much handy 6th option rather than core bowler.

Babar Azam has an extraordinary record in this form of the game. Getting him is key. Bowling options are looking a bit light.

MN5

All over, Pakistan all out for 271.

Better than I thought they'd get. Should encourage them to be competitive for the next couple of games.

Virgil

Fuck i gotta stop checking the score on cricinfo, been in twice and each time we lost a wicket.

can someone else take a look please...

booboo

@Virgil said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

Fuck i gotta stop checking the score on cricinfo, been in twice and each time we lost a wicket.

can someone else take a look please...

95/2 after 14

booboo

Nicholls 19*
Good Mitch 16*

Virgil

@canefan cheers, makes sense now.
Son Mitch = Great
Dad Mitch = Cockwomble who didn't pick CC for the 2003 RWC

some reason i was assuming Bad Mitch was Satnav (who i know the fern loves very much)

canefan

@Virgil said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@canefan cheers, makes sense now.
Son Mitch = Great
Dad Mitch = Cockwomble who didn't pick CC for the 2003 RWC

some reason i was assuming Bad Mitch was Satnav (who i know the fern loves very much)

Satnav was not liked, but after his heroics in India he is reborn

Canes4life

BCs now 102/4 off 17 overs. Bracewell and Abbas will need to form a partnership here to ensure we aren't bowled out for a miserable total.

MN5

Abbas finding out about the highs and lows of cricket at this level.

What a contrast from a few days ago.

Not a huge amount of batting in the shed. Important partnership !

Canes4life

@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

Abbas finding out about the highs and lows of cricket at this level.

What a contrast from a few days ago.

Not a huge amount of batting in the shed. Important partnership !

Based on our start he couldn't really go hard. Giving his wicket away cheaply would have been a silly move. He's got runs on the board which at this stage of the game, is most important.

MN5

@Canes4life said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

Abbas finding out about the highs and lows of cricket at this level.

What a contrast from a few days ago.

Not a huge amount of batting in the shed. Important partnership !

Based on our start he couldn't really go hard. Giving his wicket away cheaply would have been a silly move. He's got runs on the board which at this stage of the game, is most important.

Yeah I think that's exactly what I meant, you may have worded it better.

The score still looks far too 1980s at the moment, time for them to have a swing.

Also, who is Rhys Mariu ?

nzzp

@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

Also, who is Rhys Mariu ?

young batter, possibly our future Test opener.

Good innings from Mitch Hay here, critical he keeps going

No Quarter

@Virgil said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@canefan cheers, makes sense now.
Son Mitch = Great
Dad Mitch = Cockwomble who didn't pick CC for the 2003 RWC

some reason i was assuming Bad Mitch was Satnav (who i know the fern loves very much)

I love the interview where Son Mitch said he was furious and refused to speak to Dad Mitch after he left CC out of the squad. Great that he even copped it from his own son for that.

Virgil

@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@Virgil said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@canefan cheers, makes sense now.
Son Mitch = Great
Dad Mitch = Cockwomble who didn't pick CC for the 2003 RWC

some reason i was assuming Bad Mitch was Satnav (who i know the fern loves very much)

I love the interview where Son Mitch said he was furious and refused to speak to Dad Mitch after he left CC out of the squad. Great that he even copped it from his own son for that.

so he fucken should!

Nice to see Hay showing what he can do

MN5

@Virgil said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@Virgil said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

@canefan cheers, makes sense now.
Son Mitch = Great
Dad Mitch = Cockwomble who didn't pick CC for the 2003 RWC

some reason i was assuming Bad Mitch was Satnav (who i know the fern loves very much)

I love the interview where Son Mitch said he was furious and refused to speak to Dad Mitch after he left CC out of the squad. Great that he even copped it from his own son for that.

so he fucken should!

Nice to see Hay showing what he can do

99 not out. Bugger !

Nice recovery from a bad position though. A more than defendable total

Just on the confusing Mitch situation, Santner is THE greatest one that's ever lived after his efforts in the test series in India.

You could combine Starc, Johnson and Marsh across the ditch and they wouldn't be close.