All this talk about playing up tempo rugby and then we pick a forward pack full of cart horses.
Then we go and select Newell as an impact prop over Tosi who is our best in that role.
You also have the under done Tuipolotu coming in for our form lock.
Just another year of head scratching selections in all honesty.
Would have liked to see someone else given a start at hooker. Taylor was not as good in Wellington as in Christchurch and he is not a spring chicken.
I get why they have selected him but that cap might have been better given to Samisoni with Aumua off the bench.
Vai'i picked at 6 to challenge the Irish lineout....?
Feel like I have heard that somewhere before...
@taniwharugby said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
@akan004 guess they are managing Darry's workload? But he has been arguably our best player in both tests.
If that's the case they should have rested him against Italy. Not a fan of that decision.
@akan004 said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
@taniwharugby said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
@akan004 guess they are managing Darry's workload? But he has been arguably our best player in both tests.
If that's the case they should have rested him against Italy. Not a fan of that decision.
at first i agree but also like the idea of two games back to back rather than in and out
Other concern is Ratima and ALB - not sure a backline is scoring much with both on in the latter stages of a match.
I don't think leaving out Darry is as big an issue as being made out. All our locks are of a decent standard, which isn't to say Darry hasn't performed best so far, but I remember even during the team naming some posters not being on board with him.
I think lock is the one position in the current ABs I don't mind us mixing up so much.
Not a huge fan of Vai'i at 6 though but maybe Rennie can make it work.
@taniwharugby said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
@akan004 I guess maybe he exceeded expectations in T1 and backed it up in T2, but knew we likely had PT coming back for this one, so had already played him more than anticipated.
Yep, and he looked pretty tired in 2nd half last week, I think he probably earnt a break. Let's not burn out a young fella .
The bench has a few players that aren't known for their impact in that role. We better not be chasing the game by the time those guys are due to come on
Vaa’i at blindside confirms they’re still searching for the right option there and don’t yet know who, if anyone, will provide it. Parker can’t be doing enough at training for Rennie’s liking.
Like others, I find it strange that Taylor is starting all three tests. At the very least, he could have been on the bench for one game to give another hooker more game time.
Tuipulotu straight into the starting lineup is interesting too, especially because he seemed like he’d fill the bench role so well. He might end up the midweek captain so this selection may reflect that.
And Beauden Barrett may have played his last test, which I have no issue with.
I like it. If there's an adjustment to the game plan. (see picking Barrett S at 6 then not contesting lineout debacle).
Backline good.
Ireland have a dodgy scrum. Picking Pat at TH lock, and Asafo and Newell on the bench gives us the ability to target it.
The Aussies had some success disrupting their lineout too.
Not sure why there’s confusion around Taylor starting.
We have kept our spine in tact for all 3 tests - 2,8,9,10,15 - for me that’s a positive.
EdG picks himself. The only question was whether they thought Lomax was back in top shape.
The AB scrum to close last weeks game was a little iffy from my perspective. I like our bench FR to address that.
Welcome back Patty T. Good to have him fit. He must be champing/chomping at the bit to get the start. I like it.
Vaa’i to blindside - my only concern is his speed off the scrum. Everything else that we need from a loosie is there. LJ and Ardie pick themselves.
Backs return to France lineup with an opportunity for Moorby. Again a positive.
Agree with the Moorby selection just would have put him at 15 with DMac on the bench where he has more impact. Also best thing about this team, no Beauden Barrett
I like it, Rennie continues to pick shit hot backlines which is such a huge positive this year, means we are going to be dangerous in every test. I would have started Clarke but Moorby is in hot form and Clarke can offer quite a bit of punch from the bench. Segner and Lakai could offer some serious impact from the bench as well if we want to speed things up in the 2nd 40.
I would have started Sami. Otherwise I like it. Giving Vaai a shot at 6 is a good move.
So glad Rennie is trying stuff out. Bringing Segner and Lakai on in the 2nd half would be a top move.
Moorby is a Snakey reincarnation. Always good value.
It would be nice to start better, we have conceded points very early in both games, sure we won and that's all that matters ultimately, but it aint ideal.
Little bit of oil.
We're going to try and score more points than Ireland, while attempting to keep them to less points than us. Hence the selections.
@Bones said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
Little bit of oil.
We're going to try and score more points than Ireland, while attempting to keep them to less points than us. Hence the selections.
It’s like having Graham Henry and the Ghost of Fred Allen amongst us. Amazing stuff !
@MN5 said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Bones said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
Little bit of oil.
We're going to try and score more points than Ireland, while attempting to keep them to less points than us. Hence the selections.
It’s like having Graham Henry and the Ghost of Fred Allen amongst us. Amazing stuff !
I've seen it on paper.
@Bones said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
@MN5 said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Bones said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
Little bit of oil.
We're going to try and score more points than Ireland, while attempting to keep them to less points than us. Hence the selections.
It’s like having Graham Henry and the Ghost of Fred Allen amongst us. Amazing stuff !
I've seen it on paper.
You'll be seeing it on the Myth in no time.
@taniwharugby said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
but it aint ideal.
better than last year
start well and finish shite
@Nepia said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
I don't think leaving out Darry is as big an issue as being made out. All our locks are of a decent standard, which isn't to say Darry hasn't performed best so far, but I remember even during the team naming some posters not being on board with him.
I think lock is the one position in the current ABs I don't mind us mixing up so much.
Not a huge fan of Vai'i at 6 though but maybe Rennie can make it work.
Our locks haven’t made the transition to No. 6 well including Vai’i last time. New coaches so they can have a crack and see how it goes. He has a good work rate, is physical around breakdown, not sure how he rates for dominant tackles?
Would like to see Samisoni at 2 and Taylor on the bench. On form Darry should be there but perhaps its a bit of rest/rotation and trying to get PT some game time. Boks rotate their form players so don't have an issue with it, but would like to see Darry start in 2nd row against Boks in game 1 when we need our best players out there.
@Bovidae said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
@akan004 said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
Would have preferred Tosi over Newell and what's this obsession with Taylor?
Ryan obviously has plenty of say in the front row selections. I hope we see changes by the end of the SA tour.
ABs want to attack Irish scrum. It's weakest aspect of Sami's game.
I think the other thing with PT starting, with injuries, it kind of makes sense rather than him coming off bench. If he comes off bench and injury flares up, you already used your lock reserves, this way, it flares up Vai'i will move in one. Almost guarantee that is how it will end up just after halftime anyway.
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@antipodean said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
For the loose forwards, ideally Jacobson is fit and has the game he did against the French, Lakai also plays a blinder and Savea plays the way he did in the second half against the Italians (inability to take a winger to ground notwithstanding). Segner on the bench.
Moorby stays in the 23 - starting if neither Fehi nor Clarke are 100% fit).
With Darry having a blinder the last two weeks, I'd pair him with Lord and keep Vaa'i on the bench.
If they stick with Taylor starting, then Aumua must surely get a chance.
Props pick themselves.
Proctor (despite regularly getting done on the outside) should start again. I think we'll just score more often than the Irish can.
Vaai at 6 maybe?
Called it.
@BerniesCorner said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
Moorby is a Snakey reincarnation. Always good value.
Josh "Snake Eyes" Moorby .
@ShaquilleOatmeal said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
Vaa’i at blindside confirms they’re still searching for the right option there and don’t yet know who, if anyone, will provide it. Parker can’t be doing enough at training for Rennie’s liking.
Like others, I find it strange that Taylor is starting all three tests. At the very least, he could have been on the bench for one game to give another hooker more game time.
Tuipulotu straight into the starting lineup is interesting too, especially because he seemed like he’d fill the bench role so well. He might end up the midweek captain so this selection may reflect that.
And Beauden Barrett may have played his last test, which I have no issue with.
Razor should be so angry at himself.
All us armchair experts were calling that for a couple of years now.
Rennie has come in and done what needed to be done.
Roberto Martinez just died at the altar of Cristiano Ronaldo like Foster and Razor did with Beaudy.
The head coach is supposed to be the adult in the room. A little bit cold and lacking sentiment.
@Bones said in NC: All Blacks v Ireland:
Little bit of oil.
We're going to try and score more points than Ireland, while attempting to keep them to less points than us. Hence the selections.
Coach said if we score more points than them we got a good chance of winning.
I think we should have built on our momentum and ensured a clean sweep.
Ireland are no easy beats. We should have been solidifying our status as being “back” and to be feared.
Darry had to play.
Samisoni should be there.
Plenty of time to rest lads throughout the year.
How often were Whitelock and Retallick rested?
Patty T getting the Irish first game back is a tough shift in my opinion.
This Ireland team are going to score 25 points minimum this weekend.
I trust Dave all that being said.
